ARG: George W. Bush's Job Approval Ratings Drop (36%)

[Newsjock]

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

August 22, 2005
George W. Bush's Job Approval Ratings Drop

George W. Bush's overall job approval ratings have dropped from a month ago even as Americans who approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president are turning more optimistic about their personal financial situations according to the latest survey from the American Research Group. Among all Americans, 36% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 58% disapprove. When it comes to Bush's handling of the economy, 33% approve and 62% disapprove.

Among Americans registered to vote, 38% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 56% disapprove, and 36% approve of the way Bush is handling the economy and 60% disapprove.

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[Pirate Smile]

1. Woo Hoo - I've been waiting for him to hit the 30's.

:woohoo:

America waking up? Thank goodness!

[iconoclastic cat]

4. Is this a reliable poll, though?

[Pirate Smile]

8. I recognize ARG from during election seasons. They are as reliable

as any other poll. IMO they are not known as a partisan poll (like Rasmussen) or anything.

[Pirate Smile]

10. Here is an article discussing polling firms and how accurate they

were in the 2004 election.

You will see ARG is among all the rest of the standard polling firms - Gallup, CBS/NYT, Rasmussen, Zogby, Quinnipiac, Mason-Dixon, Pew, etc.

edit to add link - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/blog_11_8_04_1018.html

[iconoclastic cat]

12. Link?

[Pirate Smile]

15. Here you go. Duh to me

edit to add link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/blog_11_8_04_1018.html

[WhiteTara]

88. Yeah, the Sheople Awake

funny how when it hits home that people get annoyed. High gas prices with that pesky rising death toll. One step closer to the Hague!
:woohoo::bounce:

[Pirate Smile]

116. They just did a segment on CNN covering the new ARG poll

showing Bush's dismal numbers. :evilgrin:

[ecoflame]

21. I love that cat pic

I've seen it before....where have I seen it before?

[dw]

152. You can see from Pollkatz that ARG is usually a leading indicator...

[buddha8]

161. the Media

I can well remember the Berrigan brothers during Vietnam and other protestors. Some of them hounded defense company executives and threw water balloons full of blood on them while they were walking down the street. I am wondering at what time people are going to start throwing blood on the Nazi journalists that represent the vast majority of the media? When are people going to have enough? When are they going to surround CNN and just sit-in? When are they going to demand a free,honest and open discussion of the War with the Media? Make them the subject of civil disobedience and protest? They are whores who have traded the blood of young Americans and Iraqi citizens for safe tracks to celebrity,wealth and power ass-licking. I don't understand why a huge movement is not yet afoot to confront them directly. People whine and whine but these criminals continue to ignore the peace movement, disseminate mass lies and omissions on a scale not seen since Goebels attacked the Jews and they have done so largely with impunity. This must end. The only way out of American facism is to face down the corporate media with very,very large and sustained acts of peaceful disobedience. If it is no longer convenient,lucrative and easy to lie, if in fact it becomes shameful as it once was, then real stories can be reported again and the people will finally be told the truth.

King would march on CNN and ask them why they are participating in murder,falsehood and deceit? Ghandi would stand outside Fox with tens of thousands and hold mass teach-ins and fasts. He would make the truth a religious endeavor. And he would most definitely focus on the Media as a very important part of his quest. And yet we continue to listen daily to their casual,happy,blithe propaganda. Are we content to just fire off an email or flip the channel? Where is the strength and purpose in that? These are thug criminals who lie for a living. Doesn't anyone get it?

[FlaGranny]

166. It is stunning to me that he is not

in the teens or lower.

[iconoclastic cat]

2. The key to everything in this sentence:

"as Americans who approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president are turning more optimistic about their personal financial situations"

The Haves and the Have Mores.

[54anickel]

13. The "pool of fools" for his hand-picked audiences is shrinking rapidly.

Wonder when the press will stop those panning shots of the audiences. It may start to look too obvious.

On this side of the room we have the the "Haves" and "Have mores". On this side we have the "Have Nots" who live their lives in an information vacuum - the poor of the "information ghettos".

[UpInArms]

62. they just have to figure out how to do photoshopped stills

into their panning -

gotta keep up the lies :evilgrin:

[Jackpine Radical]

111. I can just imagine the Bushies at last having to trot His Nibs out

in front of an audience composed entirely of the residents and staff of a facility for the severely annd profoundly developmentally disabled. The cameras would have to stay way back so they didn't pick up all the stereotypic finger-waving and petit-mal seizures.

OK, I know it. I'm sick, and I really don't mean to pick on the disabled, but I've worked in those places and the image just sorta overwhelmed me.

[Cathyclysmic]

114. It would have to be really profound

I work with people with development, physical and mental disabliites...a vast majority of them hated chimpy,too.

[PurpleChez]

143. I wonder how low *'s numbers can drop

before the Larry Northerns, CR/frat goons, and the other volunteer Brown Shirts out there are disabused of the notion that opponents of the war are an aberrant fringe that must be either silenced or destroyed.

[Stinky The Clown]

153. Today's little yammer to the 'Vee Ayf Dubya' in Salt Lake City was telling

There was a huge (bussed in?) contingent from Tejas that he recognized and fawned over. No pan shots of the audience. Largely polite applause and what sounded like huge applause .... but oddly from only one part of the room .... and of a vlume all out of proportion to other parts of the room .... like maybe his shills were specially mike?

I dunno .... but it all sounded **very** phoney to me.

[kstewart33]

3. Thanks for the post! Finally, he hits the 30s! eom

[iconoclastic cat]

6. I don't know if I buy it.

[Dawgs]

32. Why?

Is it too much of a jump? It does some like quite a bit.

It is definitely an outlier, and I think I agree with you, but it is nice to see.

[Kolesar]

36. All I can think is that the huge death rate in Iraq did it

I am skeptical too. However, two weeks of Marine funeral headlines in Ohio have been hard to ignore.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

5. YES! Finally below 40%

:woohoo: Waking up, America.

[City Lights]

7. What a great way to start a Monday morning!

You suck, **!

I'm sharing this wonderful info with lots of people. Thanks for posting. :-)

[parsnips]

9. Hmm. Push poll: They mixed job performance with other questions and

put the job performance at the end of the series of questions.

When the republican do this we call it a "push poll" meant to steer people to a direction based on a series of questions leading up to the question they have been leading the people to.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

11. An object in motion tends to remain in motion....

He's been sinking like a rock, so although it may be a little low due to your 'push poll theory' (push poll intelligent design), he's been below 45% and approaching 40% for a while.

[Texifornia]

14. ARG Has a lot of credibility

They were among the most accurate during the primaries. I've been "push-polled", this doesn't look like that.

Other polls will confirm or refute in the next couple of weeks.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. The placement of the question does not make it a push poll

necessarily, although it could. More important is the wording of the questions to suggest an answer. That doesn't seem to have happened here, unless you'd care to point out a leading question?

Under your theory, simply contemplating the state of the economy would cause most people to dispprove of Bush! Simply contemplating! But, isn't that one of the criteria by which people should base their approval or disapproval of his performance?

[Name removed]

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[Atman]

27. A "push poll" question is...

...more along the lines of "Given that we really gave no other choice, who do you think would win the election today, Bush, or a mentally retarded Al Qeada leper?" When you answer, "Well, Bush I suppose, but..." they use your answer to show that Most Americans Believe Bush Will Be Victorious over Al Qeada."

The ARG poll mentioned isn't technically a "push poll," although you could correct about the way the questions seems to lead to at least a general conclusion. But I don't think most people would make it through a poll like this if it were too one-sided. Anymore, people are fed up or acting on blind faith. The former would likely answer the same way anyway, while the latter would likely hang up on the pollster, just after proclaiming her to be a godless AQ sympathizer.

[Beetwasher]

18. LOL! Yeah, Keep Telling Yourself That

:eyes:

You don't even know what a push poll is. A push poll is when you say "How would you feel about Bush if we told you he liked raping young boys?"

The goal of a push poll is NOT to get data, but to PUSH a lie into the public's consciousness, like Bush did to McCain in the '04 primaries when they asked people how they would feel about McCain if they learned he had fathered black children.

[snippy]

28. This does not fit the definition of a push poll.

"The National Council on Public Polls (NCPP) defined a push poll in a 1995 press release as: a telemarketing technique in which telephone calls are used to canvass vast numbers of potential voters, feeding them false and damaging 'information' about a candidate under the guise of taking a poll to see how this 'information' affects voter preferences. In fact, the intent is to 'push' the voters away from one candidate and toward the opposing candidate. This is clearly political telemarketing, using innuendo and, in many cases, clearly false information to influence voters; there is no intent to conduct research."

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2519/is_4_21/ai_62410241

Also, it is unclear what order the questions were asked in this poll. The results are reported as though job approval was the first question, but the wording of the questions show the two job approval questions last. ARG is an established polling company so it likely knows how to conduct a poll using sound methodology.

[alarcojon]

42. Any further thoughts, p?

Honest debate on DU involves a give and take of opinions. We hope to hear from you soon! B-)

[Gormy Cuss]

53. Not a push poll.

Putting an overall rating at the end of a series of related questions is done to elicit a more well considered response. Asking the overall job performance questions first would be more likely to garner jingoistic "I support my president, right or wrong" responses.
Survey professionals understand how responses may be skewed by poor survey design. That's why it's important to know whether the "survey" was done by a reputable firm or a shill for an interest group.

[mondo joe]

94. Incorrect. That is definitely not a push poll.

You don't know what a push poll is.

Surveying about several topics is NOT it.

[Cocoa]

134. it doesn't steer people

Question Wording:

How do you rate the condition of the national economy these days - would you say it is excellent, very good, good, bad, very bad, or terrible?

Do you think the national economy is getting better, staying the same, or getting worse?

Would you say that the national economy is in a recession, or not?

A year from now, do you expect the national economy to be better than it is today, the same as it is today, or worse than it is today?

How do you rate the condition of the financial situation in your household - would you say it is excellent, very good, good, bad, very bad, or terrible?

Do you think the financial situation in your household is getting better, staying the same, or getting worse?

A year from now, do you expect the financial situation in your household to be better than it is today, the same as it is today, or worse than it is today?

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the economy?

[lancdem]

141. I don't think they changed their methodology for this one

ARG always does it this way. I think it's probably low, but I don't beleive they interviewed too many Repukes. The approval rating of 21 percent among indys accounts for the drop.

[Beetwasher]

17. That's Not A Drop, That's A Plummet

:wow:

[electropop]

24. Does this poll include the effect of CNN's "Dead Wrong"?

If not, things are about to get even worse for Bushitler. :evilgrin:

[Beetwasher]

26. No Way

It was just on last night. But this would include the Cindy effect.

[Dawgs]

33. I'm sorry...

I know we would like to attribute this to Cindy, but I disagree. I think it has more to do with gas prices.

[Beetwasher]

35. Heh? No Way You Could Know

It's more likely a combination actually. If you actually read the poll, it seems opinions on the economy have improved a bit for him, so I think you're wrong, though they don't ask about Cindy in the poll so there's no way to gauge the effect.

[Lexingtonian]

19. well...

ARG measures the low end of Bush support. Personally, I think they've a little undermeasured his minimal support just a little- by a point or two. In ARG polling the Undecideds all lean Bush/Republican. (In e.g. Gallup polling, the Undecideds lean the other way.)

The 'disapprove' is the important number. 56% is nasty- Bush has very little room left to manouver and minimal chance to propose new stuff. When it clears 60% solidly Republican Washington will go into paralysis. As it is they're treading water. And there's nowhere to go but down.

[lancdem]

142. It's actually 58 percent

which is even nastier! :)

[CottonBear]

22. Who are these 36%

They must be the Haves and Have Mores along with the Stupid Fundamentalist Bigots and the More Stupid Fundamentalist Bigots. :(

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

29. Even some of the 'haves' and 'have mores' are jumping

Leaves him with efungelical zealots and the new-money ignorant types.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

59. Don't forget the macho shitheads

who just like Dubya cuz of the war.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

70. Oh ya, you're right...that is definitely part of the hardcore base.

Big mouths, big muscles but small brains and even smaller 'private parts'.

[mondo joe]

96. I don't believe money is the deciding factor. "Morality" is - and

I place the words in quotes because I'm referring to the very narrow and often hypocritical "morality" of the far far right.

Certainly Bush has benefited the rich, but that's a small segment of the population anyway, and the group most able to do well under ANY administration.

No, it's not them populating most of the Bush supporters. It's the "morality disenfranchised" who need to force their conscience on others to be happy.

[DBoon]

30. The deluded, the selfish, and the clueless

in other words, the core republican constituency

[SoCalDem]

44. They are the same "thirty-something" that were rabidly after Clinton

No matter when a poll was taken his approval was always 60-something favorable..30-something UNfavorable

These are the SAME twits who have managed to get the media to announce that they are a MAJORITY..

This 30-something bunch is the same group of idiots who are controlling all our lives..

They are the ones referenced when you hear:


"some people are saying"
"an anonymous source said"
"people have reported..."
"everyone knows that..."

That's the 30-percenters


But since their 30-% opinion gets 99% coverage and saturation, they are perceived as a majority:grr:

[tandot]

140. Some of these "Americans" would support and defend Bush even

if they personally would catch him molesting a child. They wouldn't defend him with their own life, of course. Otherwise they would be in Iraq fighting his "noble" war. But they wouldn't mind sacrificing little children so he would stay in power.

And there are, of course, the utter ignorant and rich, uncaring, selfish bastards.

[classysassy]

167. 36%

"A ship of fools" sailing into the sunset.

[renaissanceguy]

23. IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH

If this poll is reliable, the American public would support impeachment of this war criminal.

[cliss]

78. YAY! (claps hands)

based on this very damaging poll, we are having a banquet tonight.

It will be called the "Flush Bush" dinner. I'll be serving salmon, baked potatoes, and salad. We'll have some pink champagne (the cheap kind!).

We'll hold our glasses up, and celebrate Bush's descent into the 'Poll Gutter'. Where the criminal belongs.

[NYC]

99. I really like that idea.

I think I will also have a festive dinner.

[DemocracyInaction]

25. From the "local news"

Couple days ago I was snoozing through the local news as they reported that here in Maine Bush had like only a 40% approval rating, blah, blah. Then they said they ran a nation-wide poll and the approval rating was 41%. In certain ways I didn't put a great deal of stock in that since I doubt it was a real professional survey. But in other ways I thought that they probably were closer to the truth than we know in that so many of these other polls do the "heavy weighting" to the repubs because they maintain that repubs are the ones more likely to vote. However, since this is not an election year it never made any sense to weight the polls in that manner when asking this question. Bottom line: indeed, I think these type of numbers are very much closer to the truth than our politicians would like to admit. And, I hope our scared crapless, half-wit Dem politicians wake up to it all and start making hay while the sun is shining.

[Walt Starr]

31. This is the tipping point

It's all downhill from here!

:applause: :woohoo: :rofl: :patriot: :headbang: :beer:

[iconoclastic cat]

34. I hope it's not downhill for all of us, though.

[howmad1]

135. Yea, but I would.....

....stay away from tall buildings for the next couple of months. }(

[TahitiNut]

37. It's STILL more that 30% too high.

Let's see what 'approval' this criminal adminstration gets when they're in prison.

[Kolesar]

38. He is finally below the point when the Abu Ghraib stories came out

He plunged to the low 40s, and then rebounded with an integrated propaganda campaign for the November election. He had about reached the Abu Ghraib trough until this poll came out. It is only one poll, though.

[oscar111]

117. FIRST time below fifty five percent. AbuGhraib data wrong in re above this

amigo, i differ.

graph i saw here at DU and printed out, showed bush's lowest ever was before nine-eleven in 'O1. Then he was at fifty five percent.

WTC bumped him up, and only lately has he come below fifty five, way on down to low forties recently, and now 36.

[Kolesar]

121. Pollkatz today looks just like pollkatz on 5/20/05

Bush approval


http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/

[alarcojon]

133. Liked this graphic as well:

Also: head on over to the site if you want to see Clinton's numbers. Too bad they don't have a superimposed comparison.

http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/

[imperialismispasse]

39. Well, this is as good a place as any to jump in.

This news is good. At least they can't say it's only the fringe Left that thinks he's ruining the country.

Hi all. I just found the site, looks pretty great! I had gotten very frustrated with politics for a while, but I guess Cindy Sheehan has made me want to get up and fight again.

[Beetwasher]

40. Welcome!

n/t

[imperialismispasse]

46. Thanks

[beetbox]

49. You wash 'em I'll store 'em- Cooperation

there are no depths too low for these people to sink to. There is no atrocity too horrible for them to commit. These are people who value power, and money. Period.

Anything you can think of, any act you can imagine, they are capable of. If this were not true, we would not now be causing the deaths, and horrific injuries, that are being suffered in Iraq, on both sides.

We are not dealing with normal, sane, humans now...we are dealing with sociopaths with positions of power, who will wield that power to seize anything they can, simply because they can. Never, ever, for even a moment, underestimate their capacity for evil.

If Bush were not the son of a wealthy, powerful man, he would be a wino living in a cardboard box under a freeway someplace. If Rumsfeld were not in his position, he would be babbling, between doses of powerful anti-psychotic drugs, in a state runned mental facility somewhere.

The sad truth is that this country has been overtaken by sociopaths. men who have the positions, and the money, to live out their lunatic fantasies, and bring this once great country to oblivion.

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
– James Madison, Political Observations, 1795

[Beetwasher]

50. Indeed! A Welcome To You As Well!

:thumbsup:

[renate]

68. hey--have you been reading my mind?

Welcome!:hi:

[yashuryabetcha]

69. you got it

"If Bush were not the son of a wealthy, powerful man, he would be a wino living in a cardboard box under a freeway someplace.":applause:

[Knight of Ni]

148. ..."he'd be like a monkey without his organ-grinder"

N/M

[cliss]

79. Beautiful post, beetbox.

Welcome to the DU!!!:toast:

[alarcojon]

43. Welcome!

glad to see the Sheehan effect has brought you here. I hope you are only one of many.

:toast:

[imperialismispasse]

47. I think I probably am.

She's inspiring by herself, but also the response to her has made me so mad, it's given me energy to fight.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

48. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[imperialismispasse]

52. Thanks

I'm in PA too.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

56. Phillies, eh?

I'm in a suburb of 'the burgh' in the other end of the state. But I spent some time in Philly at UPenn and I really did enjoy your city very much.

I wanted an Eagles/Steelers Superbowl last year, but sadly, it was not to be....maybe this year. Now, the Pirates, don't even go there...great new baseball stadium, tragically consistent losing team.

Enjoy DU!

[imperialismispasse]

61. Eh, the Phils are going to break my heart again.

I love the young guys coming up, like Chase Utley, but they're never gonna make it. It's the same every damn year. Yeah, we got a new stadium too but it's kind of a joke.

Now, the birds, they might do it this year. Eagles/Steelers - maybe but those Pats still look strong. You're gonna need some luck to get there.

[EST]

64. Welcome to DU!

We'd almost given up that you'd show up.

[imperialismispasse]

65. Sorry traffic was a bitch.

[yashuryabetcha]

71. ok stop

you guys are almost putting me in a good mood:)

[imperialismispasse]

72. Thank god for humor.

I would have given up a long time ago without it.

[EST]

95. S'allright.

Interesting stage name, there.

[imperialismispasse]

98. I saw it somewhere on the internet

and it was funny and true at the same time so I went with it. What does yours stand for? The time zone?

[EST]

109. Latin.

Freely translated "it is." My memory of the first translation in first year Latin, nearly fifty years ago, keeps me engaged in the misapprehension that I can still think in Latin. Villa est villa Romana=(The) house is (a) Roman house.

Mental connection to enlightened first look at the universe- WOW! IS!

[imperialismispasse]

110. Cool.

I wish I knew Latin. That's really cool.

[Lochloosa]

81. Welcome and stick around..

And don't get offended by some of the people here. They will tell you where to stick it if they don't agree...but it's all in fun.:sarcasm: :hug:

[imperialismispasse]

83. I'll remember that.

Thanks for welcome.

[Eloriel]

84. Good for you, and welcome!

:bounce:

[imperialismispasse]

85. Thanks

This is still my country too no matter how many times they tell me it isn't.

[fleabert]

87. Welcome to DU!

some helpful info:

'nt' in subject line= 'no text' in message box
and photobucket is the best place, IMO, to host images so you can post pics here.

these are the two most common newbie questions... have fun! and don't forget to visit the Lounge, it's really fun in there. :-)

[imperialismispasse]

90. Thanks.

That's good info. I'm not sure what hosting images means but do you mean so you don't direct link to a site and use their bandwith?

[fleabert]

138. yep, or try to use DU's... nt

[faithnotgreed]

91. were glad youre here - and we thank cindy also

she is speaking some outright truths isnt she
her blogs are reason for hope

[imperialismispasse]

92. She is telling the truth and in my opinion

anyone who bashes her looks like a heartless asshole. She is a mom who lost her kid for Gods sakes. That is why she is so powerful. I would never wish that on anyone but damn is she a powerful figure.

[NYC]

100. Welcome to DU.

:hi:

[imperialismispasse]

102. Thanks

[alarcojon]

41. He can't go much further

His hardcore base is around 33%. He could shoot heroin on the White House lawn while screwing a dog and these people would still approve of his performance.

[Arugula Latte]

54. And then he could kick a live baby through a goal post, but that

would be okay with the nutcase base, because, see, Bush is a "man of god" and also a "reg'lar guy" you'd like to have a beer with.

[Gregorian]

45. PNAC accomplished!

This presidency was as legitimate as a Kamakazee airlines. They achieved their mission. Nothing else mattered. Actually, they didn't achieve the entire mission. They aren't going to land.

[Fovea]

67. I guess they are discovering the downside

to Leo Strauss' philosophy.

Most people don't want to be lied to, particularly when it means that their neighbor's nice kid comes home in a box, and they are told to shut up and stay in line.

[leQ]

97. if that didn't sum it up rather nicely, i don't know what could. (eom)

[DS1]

51. Doesn't one need to work in order to gain a job approval/disapproval?

I hereby call this poll invalid :D

[bnr65432]

55. he will be in the twenties for the 06 elections

that will hurt republicans
things are going down hill for bush

[R Hickey]

57. Bush will release our stratigic oil reserves just before the next election

...and when the gas price drops, the dim public will forgive all.

[buddha8]

163. what really matters

The bush-turd's numbers are now lower than Nixon's worst levels but lets get real: it doesn't really matter. These are very committed facists. The only thing these numbers signal is the very high likelihood that these thugs will stage a domestic terror attack as a means to create mass confusion and summon wide ranging fear and dutiful support for their next target which no doubt is Iran. They will stop at nothing.

People who actually still beleive that numbers will effect the outcome of the coming 06' elections are,I beleive, living in a dream world. They control the count and suppress those key areas where they need to. They did not win in 00' but massively suppressed the vote in Florida. They did not win in 04', Rove managed a thorough corruption of optical scanners and machine counts. Ohio was an outright joke. The exit polls prove this. You will not get satisfaction at the polls. There will be no justice until the vote is manually counted again but momentum is in the opposite direction and Diebold is feverishly trying to secure California contracts. Wake Up everybody.

The texas turd's best opportunity for securing his 'legacy', passing on power to some other hack and protecting himself and his cronies from criminal prosecution is to start another War after first staging a fake fear event in this country. Then he can declare Martial Law and suspend most political discourse. If you think the Media would not cooperate you are sorely mistaken. These recent polls are therefore very scary. They are a precursor of what I suspect is to come.

[4_Legs_Good]

58. OMG! 36%??? 36%???

That's f*cking amazing.

What were Carter's approval ratings in the Crisis year?

36% is just about rock bottom. Gawd, can you believe it's been less than a year since we made the horrific mistake of electing this guy?

david

[renaissanceguy]

60. Who's "we?"

:hi:

[antonialee839]

66. I second that emotion

I never elected that scum President.

[4_Legs_Good]

76. Good point, good point!

[yashuryabetcha]

73. who elected him????????????

:shrug:

[Knight of Ni]

149. Diebold!!!

SOMEBODY had to say it!!

[yashuryabetcha]

74. I was under the distinct

impression this he stole both elections????????

[faithnotgreed]

93. its a meandering network of roads but you are on the right path

glad youre here friend

[MrTriumph]

63. Give frustration over lack of border security credit, too

Regardless of whether you support them or not, the "minute men" have really brought attention to Bush's open border policy.

IMHO, American working people are upset, as indeed they should be.

[Roland99]

75. And it's not going to get any better after this week of Propaganda!

What a moran we have as President.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

77. I think it angers ordinary citizens to see him vacationing

while the soldiers are struggling day in and day out in 120 degree heat and so many are dying. I think they wonder how much of a hardship does he have to put up with by staying in the White House being waited on hand and foot by servants...he couldn't have gone to Camp David for long weekends to do his bike riding?

I think that sticks in a lot of craws.

[wickerwoman]

162. Yeah, I think you've nailed it.

How many Joe Six-packs get five week vacations every year?

GHWB was less popular than his son because of the "wimp" factor, as stupid as that sounds to people born in the 20th century. I think the fact that Bush is kicking back on the ranch while people are dying coupled with the fact that he's clearly running scared of a middle-aged woman is hitting him hard and close to his base.

[Charles19]

172. Commander in Chief shouldn't vacation while troops are dying! (n/t)

[Avalon Sparks]

80. Good to hear...

Hope they go down even farther.

[pelagius]

82. One third of the country would approve of Bush...

...even if he barbecued and ate a baby in the Rose Garden, I believe, because they will blindly support whatever Republican (and/or "Christian") is in office. So I think poll numbers in the 20s are unlikely -- barring a "dead girl or live boy" problem -- and support for Bush is very near its theoretically possible low.

[turbo_satan]

86. There's just so much to hate...

... that I'm amazed his approval rating is in the double digits! At this point, he's pissed off so many people that the only ones who should like him are multi-millionaires with energy-heavy portfolios.

[TankLV]

89. Where's the end of the line so I can have my turn to kick him when he's

down, too.

Good news - but where were these "people" when it counted - like last election?

WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO. WE TOLD YOU SO.

you dumb shits for brains american sheeple for bringing the election close enough to steal - again!

[FreeStateDemocrat]

101. Idiot defends war at VFW in UT just like LBJ & Nam only “safe” audiences

He is afraid to appear before a group of typical Americans because he would be humiliated and ridiculed. He should be terrified to face a representative crowd and find out how many people in this country other than the rich and ignorant really feel about his failed presidency.

Edit: Wrong state Utah today with Idaho tomorrow, both are deep red and a safe place to lie.

[deadparrot]

103. He's hit the 30's...anyone feel a sudden need to pop some champagne?

Because, yeah, I do.

*dances*

Dear god, I hope this is accurate.

[Kolesar]

122. He's been sub-40% on ARG for a while now...eom

[lancdem]

144. Not on his overall rating

Only on issues such as Iraq and the economy.

[demo dutch]

104. Yeah well, we're still stuck till 2008, pray that 2006 will change things!

[AX10]

106. We need to take back congress.

.

[tives12]

105. vacation

is it even remotely conceivable for him to think that his approval ratings could improve while on being on vacation for as long as he has? he had it coming.

[Carla in Ca]

108. Picture this: He is sitting in a padded cell

in the corner wearing a straight jacket and muttering to himself. Over and over he says "I thought they loved me! Mommy, I thought they loved me!"

Can you see it? :-)

[SlavesandBulldozers]

126. seeing as how everything he touches turns to shit. .

the vacation probably helps his overall numbers.

[oscar111]

107. AAR UP TO 67 STATIONS: BUSH DOWN TO 36% - connected? YES

As AAR .. airamericaradio.com or airamerica.com ?... spreads truth for the very first time to

Dallas
San Antonio
Atlanta
New Orleans
The Carolinas
Anchorage
corpus christi/houston
Colorado

and a few other RW areas, you see bush in free fall.

bush made errors before AAR, but MSM kept the truth away.

Now, bush errors are pointed out to Joe Sixpack, and Joe hears us.

get union LOCALS in your non-AAR town to buy a station, like the anchorage IBEW local did, and put AAR on the air. Dont wait for the sluggard AFLCIO HQ to do it, get a LOCAL to act.

urge AFLCIO and DNC to give expansion grants to AAR.

put AAR in your Will

take out tiny weekly newspaper ads if AAR is in your town, for publicity. In the weekly alternative newspapers.
=== some places dont have real alternative papers, so use the "wine and cheese" weeklies

Use free yahooGroups group forums to get to know locals who also want AAR to get a station in your new town. Google yahoogroups Totally free. three minutes to set up.

[EST]

115. Democracy Now! was also pretty tasty, today, as well.

Almost 100% Camp Casey and its ramifications--delightful, stunning, sobering.

[MadisonProgressive]

112. The bottom is falling out now!! WHOHOOOO!!

[Moochy]

113. CNN Covering this now... 1:13 pm Pacific nt

[Stand and Fight]

118. Democrats in Congress should run with these numbers.

Now we should press a relentless attack while his soft underbelly is exposed. Democrats in Congress should now attack the Bush administration, as it is clear that public opinion is squarely on our side.

Crush him -- make the public see him for the failure, for the fool, that he is, friends. Expose his lies. Use his lies to make the public see what a charlatan Bush is. I haven't felt this much joy for some time. Pray God Bush is forced and/or removed from office.

[alarcojon]

132. Someone posted this idea a while ago:

that Democrats begin to refer to Bush as "this unpopular president." Hammer it home ruthlessly, just like the Repugs would.

[Stand and Fight]

154. Precisely...

I like the way you think -- you must be a warrior Democrat. :toast:

[jmc777]

119. A "terrorist attack" right about now....

....would be helpful for Herr Bush. I wonder if he'll get "lucky". :tinfoilhat:

[Fluffdaddy]

120. Believe me the NEOCONS are hoping for one

[mom cat]

123. Now tell me with a straight face that George actuakky won in November!

[DFWJock]

124. I guess this means

the "political capital" is spent.

Buh bye, just like the surplus.

[JAbuchan08]

125. Just had to post a little YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAa

from Colorado.

[Maine-ah]

127. Nixon approval rating with watergate, summer of 1973 was 39%

:woohoo:

[0007]

136. Nixon's poll number got as low as in the mid twenties before

he resigned.

[belle]

170. There's a Governor (Taft) whose approval rating is something like 17%,

no joke. Maybe even lower by now.

[neuvocat]

128. I didn't think it ever go below 43%.

Apparently I was wrong.

[Deja Q]

129. Gas and jobs. Especially gas because it is affecting EVERYBODY.

But partially jobs too.

But especially gas because it affects EVERYBODY.

/hint

[Barkley]

173. Bingo!

I couldn't agree more. Cheaper gas was implied in our invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Everyone feels higher fuel prices and Bush's Mideast policy is
linked to oil.

I wonder what the public thinks of the Republican Congress?

[Joey Liberal]

130. Let Bush stay at his Lazy W Ranch

The country is falling down all around him, but he can't do as much damage while he's riding his bike at the Lazy W Ranch.

[GOPNotForMe]

131. Wooo!! How low can you go, Georgie??

:headbang:

[lovuian]

137. and yet the Republicans thinks he's the Greatest still!!!

this is the people getting angrier and angrier and hurting and hurting!!!

[Rex]

139. You can't smell like a turd for long in the political racket.

I wonder if Turdblossom's political career is up on the chopping block? You know Libby is just as ruthless and cutthroat if he is Cheney's chief of staff. You don't get to work for Darth Vader without being a cold hearted robot.

That's the number one rule in Boosh's "zero accountability" Whitehouse - everyone but the boss is expendable.

[AnnieBW]

145. Do the Limbo!

How low can they go? How low can they go?

[pinniped]

146. The mid-30s is the percentage that will support this assclown...

no matter what.

If they suddenly find themselves standing on a nuclear wasteland complements of the POS* they will still support the monkey.

Weird.

[flaminbats]

165. why do these numbers seem strangely familiar??

http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/national.php?year=1992

Wow..even the Perot voters are becoming pretty sick of him! How much more must he screwup to lose daddy's supporters? :cry:

[NJCher]

147. Celebrate!

I'm having two Mikes Hard Limeades instead of just one tonight!!

YEAH!!!

36% FOR THE BOZO!!!


Cher

[Claire Beth]

150. Bush's approval rating doesn't meet shit.....

I am glad that it is LOW and more people are waking up ....but we have to tie these problems to the REPUBLICAN congress and try to take back the senate. Bush's ratings don't mean shit, he has nothing to lose at this point though I DO enjoy everytime I see his ratins drop!

[barb162]

151. monkey no like this. monkey mad

[Arkana]

155. It's finally happened.

The Chimp has done so awful that he's fallen below 40%. I seriously thought I would never see it.

[siztnarf]

156. sorry - i think the the #s are a bit deflated.

If you look at that pollkatz graph, the yellow diamonds are I'd guess on average 4% lower than the average of the other major pollsters. Over the course of three years that's pretty huge. As much as I'd like it to be true I find it dubious.
As Bush's approval ratings decline the numbers begin to butt up against the the hardcore repugs and loyal Bush supporters ever more. It's hard to fathom such a precipitous drop in the polls considering where he already was barring a significant negative event (I don't think camp Cindy is it either). The news hasn't been good but it also hasn't changed that dramatically.

I think that pollkatz graph would be better with orange stars and green clovers.

[jsamuel]

157. you are right, we need to wait for others to confirm

but don't expect Gallup (Bush's PR firm) to show anything near that 36%

Notice how the bright purple diamonds (Gallup) are always at the top of that as well.

[genieroze]

158. BawHahaha teehee. eom

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

159. Dubya's plummeting...

...numbers are both pleasing and disturbing. Pleasing because they do indicate people are beginning to see Bushco for what it is, disturbing because it is not the way of an illegitimate, crooked, fascist regime to sit idly by and watch the citizenry begin to reclaim their country. How much further can we reasonably expect these people to let his numbers slip before they engineer and execute the next 9/11? Not much further in my opinion. I would expect the final details are being worked out if they haven't been already. The blame will be assigned to Iran and some kind of retaliatory strike (maybe nuclear) will follow. It will be martial law here and Cindy Sheehan will no longer be a front page story. Everything is in place for them to mobilize the brown-shirts to crush domestic dissent. They're itching to do it and the next 9/11 event will give them all the justification they need. Dark days ahead.

[Amonester]

164. There must be a way to at least try to inform the 60 percent

about that so they won't ever "fall" for their wicked "new Pearl Harbor" (if they ever commit another one in LIHOP or MIHOP)!

Please, everybody who can print flyers about the PNAC, do so, and then distribute them in your neighborhood. Tack them on telephone posts and tape them on walls (make sure nobody can see you), leave them in internet-cafes, laundry boards, etc. - everywhere you can: this is an EMERGENCY!!

Let's work for the PNAC gangsters to be held accountable for all their crimes they commit day in, day out, for power and greed!

P.S.: Please, someone also post something similar to this in the DU Activist HQ forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=106

THANKS!!

On edit: link.

[Mr_Scarecrow]

168. but the 9/11 and a 1/2 theory is a Catch 22

Bush supporters point to the fact that there hasn't been another domestic 9/11 as proof that the War on Whateva is working. Most people gave Bush a pass for 9/11 or, ha ha, blamed it on Clinton, but he would get blamed this time. And remember the CIA is currently furious with Bushco so the potential for covert ops on the home front is lower.

Bushco will be convening some focus groups no doubt and they'll push out some counter-messages that will attempt to re-encamp the lost support. Maybe it will work.

Iran is a tough call as our troops are stretched thin. Heads up if Bush appears to cave and set a deadline for troop withdrawal from Iraq - that may signal the timing of an Iran strike.

Martial law - you mean like random bag searches on public transportation, offshoring of dissenters, misinformation campaigns through MSM? Got all that. Who needs a curfew when FAUX News has round-the-clock "coverage"?

If all else fails, call Diebold CEO and threaten release of incriminating information on his illicit affair and love child, or whatever they certainly have on him.

[Historic NY]

160. This is so heart warming.........n/t

[Generator]

169. I am doom and gloom

Today..so I better get off DU. But the negative view of this is this folks: There are plenty of countries in the world where they despise, detest and KNOW their leader is worthless and must go. However, HE still has all the military, HE has the corrupt media, HE has all the money, HE has all the propaganda. And he even has the machines that tally the votes. The people are no longer needed. If these figures are true, WHY are there not more balanced represnenations in our media? WHY isn't the other side seeing he is WEAK and attacking and taking him down? There is no more pressure on Bush to do a damn thing differently than when his polls are in the positive. Think about that. WE no longer matter. America is becoming a third world country. The rich on the top control everything-including the information. They no longer need you. These numbers show the truth-that the American people are not that dumb, and even if the "sheeple" wake up it won't matter a bit. Not without real leaders, real oppostion, and real access to the media that controls and frames and chooses the debate.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

171. You say you're...

..."doom and gloom." I say you're somebody who, rather than take refuge in denial, chooses to face the reality of our situation. You've called it the way it is. It's tough to come to grips with--too tough for some, but it IS the reality of what we're faced with. I trust, however, that you're message is not to throw in the towel. We certainly need to keep trying, any way we can, to take our country back. Personally, I can't see it happening without a revolution. This crooked regime is already too well entrenched, and as you say, they control the ballot box. How can we overcome that without a revolution?

[biggles1]

174. I'm amazed that there are still 36% who support him!

Seems high to me.....!

[GetTheRightVote]

175. It is about time the public dish on this guy for destoring our economy

as well as our image in the world around us.
Dumbya is his name.

:kick: