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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:43 AM
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Military reopens probe of Tillman death - Inquiry into killing of football

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/08/23/TILLMAN.TMP

Military reopens probe of Tillman death
Inquiry into killing of football star to be reviewed

The Pentagon has reopened an investigation into last year's friendly fire killing of former football star Pat Tillman in combat in Afghanistan, saying it will begin a "review" of a previous Army probe that Tillman's parents and others have strongly criticized.

A Pentagon spokesman said Monday that the Defense Department's investigative arm, the inspector general, had begun the review, but he refused to comment further.

The parents, Patrick and Mary Tillman, who live in San Jose, cautiously welcomed the new investigation and said they hoped it would reveal a fuller picture of how their son had died in Afghanistan.

"The other investigations were frauds," Tillman's father, Patrick Tillman, said in a telephone interview with The Chronicle.


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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:49 AM
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1. I don't understand...
are they suggesting he was killed on purpose or something?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:04 AM
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8. no
they're suggesting incompetence.
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:52 AM
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2. What if it was somebody else instead of Tillman?
I doubt it would see this much coverage, or even this much investigation had he not been famous, sadly. *sigh*
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:30 AM
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3. Good news for the family. Maybe they won't be LIED to this time
and MAYBE since they have used him up in propaganda, they can tell the REAL story.

Sickening.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:01 AM
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7. With Rumsfeld in charge of the Pentagon, I have my doubts.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:45 AM
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4. This is maddening, isn't it?
Not because he was a "special person," being a professional athlete, but because it's yet another example of one more completely bogus story spun to make Bush's war look as good as humanly possible.

From the article posted:
Both parents said the Army's most recent two investigations had changed key data in an apparent attempt to shield higher-ranking officers from blame for the botched operation.

"Almost every baseline fact of importance was changed -- distance, lighting, observation," said Patrick Tillman.

Mary Tillman pointed to what she said were discrepancies in the last two investigations, including whether the troops had been firing in the dark or in good visibility, whether the troops who killed her son had dismounted from their vehicle or were firing in a high-speed rush down the valley, and why Tillman's bullet-riddled flak jacket was burned immediately after his death rather than being preserved for a later investigation.
(snip/)
This sounds SO creepy.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:37 AM
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6. nothing really surprises me any more...
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 07:04 AM by sabra
well almost nothing :-)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:01 PM
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16. This sounds like the recent London shooting of the Brazilian:
"Almost every baseline fact of importance was changed -- distance, lighting, observation..."

Lying sounds the same all over.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 03:16 AM
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5. Has the Army revoked the Silver Star they gave Tillman for heroism? n/t
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:30 AM
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9. This article is front page news in Stars and Stripes today
along with:

Bush: 'Peace mom' doesn't represent most military families
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:48 PM
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10. Anyone think this investigation will have any useful results?
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:31 PM
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11. Somebody must of come up w/ a better lie so they want to spin it again.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:43 PM
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12. Pentagon to review Tillman investigation
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=ae217c41b6556181

Big News Network.com Wednesday 24th August, 2005 (UPI)

The Defense Department plans to review its investigation into football star Pat Tillman's death from friendly fire in Afghanistan.

Patrick and Mary Tillman of San Jose, Calif., have accused the Pentagon of covering up the circumstances of their son's death to shield senior officers.

"Hopefully something will come of this," Mrs. Tillman told the San Francisco Chronicle. "Many crucial things that happened did not come out in the earlier reports. People above should have been punished."

The Pentagon, in response to a question from the Chronicle, issued a brief statement saying a review is under way.

Tillman enlisted in the Army Rangers after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, rejecting the offer of a $3.6 million three-year contract with the Arizona Cardinals. He was killed on Aug. 27, 2004.

Immediately after his death, the Pentagon said that Tillman died leading an attack on Taliban fighters. President Bush hailed him as an inspiration on and off the football field and he was awarded a Silver Star and Purple Heart.

more...

Friendly fire happened alot in Vietnam too!!!
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:43 PM
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13. Sad but Tillman is not entitled to the Silver Star or Purple Heart. n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:11 PM
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15. Wouldn't he at least be entitled to a Purple Heart?
Even if it was friendly fire that killed him? His mortal wound, whatever the cause, did occur in a combat situation.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:49 AM
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17. Good point and you're probably right. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:43 PM
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14. i am glad to see that they wee finaly forced to do a review.
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