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FreedomToons Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:38 AM
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Bush spotlights mom of troops who backs Iraq war
"US President George W. Bush contrasted a military mother whose five sons and husband have served in Iraq with anti-war protestors he said risked emboldening terrorists."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050825/wl_afp/usiraqbush_050825073628


Now anyone who doesn't agree with official government policy "emboldens" terrorists. This phrase is only slightly different from "supporting" terrorists.

Let's not forget that it was Bush who "emboldened" terrorists when he allowed the Taliban visit Texas while he was governor, so that they could schmooze about an oil pipeline: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm
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FreedomToons Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:39 AM
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1. Proof that Bush hates freedom
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:17 AM
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10. How supremely adolescent of Bush
He's like the bad boyfriend who gets so jealous and upstaged by the former girlfriend that he goes out and finds himself the diva from a school in another town so he can parade her around in front of his old girlfriend. "Look over here! Look at me. I AM loved. I AM more important!"
What next? He gets a chorus line of military moms?
He's missing the point. Mrs. Sheehan wants to talk about the war in Iraq. Not Bush's definition of patriotism. She wants to know exactly what Bush wanted to know when Clinton was president and we sent troops to Bosnia. What's the plan? What's the exit strategy? I want details.
Bush, as governor, demanded Clinton, as commander in chief, answer to the American people. Mrs. Sheehan is simply asking for the same.
Bush is an elected official. He says he doesn't have to answer questions. He's wrong. He needs to quit hiding behind Patriotic Mom's skirts and confront the American opposition.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:44 PM
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25. Man, you make a lot of great points there, stanwyck.
What you've said here would be well worth repeating: Sheehan wants to know exactly what bush himself wanted to know when Clinton was president and we sent troops to Bosnia.

EXCELLENT POINT!

bush is an elected official. He says he doesn't have to answer questions, and he told Bob Woodward he didn't owe any explanations to anybody - that was the neat thing about being president, dontcha know? And he IS wrong. INCREDIBLY, OUTSTANDINGLY, SOLIDLY, 100,000 PERCENT WRONG. HE works for US. It's NOT the other way around. It's his job to answer to US - EVERY day. For EVERY move and decision and declaration he makes. HE works for US. WE are his employers. And he damned well IS answerable to us. And I hope somebody starts delivering that message to him. This isn't Imperial America. As much as he'd like it to be and is trying like hell to make it become. He is NOT a king. He is NOT a messiah. He is NOT the owner of America. WE own HIS ass because he works for US.

He is a PUBLIC SERVANT.

Even Prince Charles of England knows that. He's in line to be King of England and yet, the inscription on his coat of arms translates to "I SERVE."
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:42 AM
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2. Wonder if this mom every wonders why Chimpys kids aren't in Iraq?
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 06:09 AM by NNN0LHI
Probably never even occurs to her to ask.

Don
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:43 AM
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3. Can that mom
explain the "noble cause" her family fought for? Or does she spout the same lies as Bush?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:57 AM
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9. She's a Real "Piece of Work"
Wait until one of her "OFFSPRING" gets Offed

The whole Charade reminded me of a History channel program on how Hitler went around Germany praising families who were having their sons join the SS.

This is typical Rove Bullshit

DEFLECT/ATTACK/VILIFY.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:44 AM
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4. Maybe she'd feel differently if her sons had not survived. N/T
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:50 AM
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8. yes, it's fascism
Get ready for a holocaust.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:46 AM
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5. I didn't see anything there that says any of them.............
DIED in Iraq fighting bush's oil war. The difference is one of day and night.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:48 AM
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6. Boy, does that "piss" me off. Emboldening terrorists????
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 05:49 AM by wake.up.america
Terrorists are emboldened by the presence of US troops in Iraq.

I have spoken with people from the Middle East here, who while not supporting the bombers, say the whole terrorism will stop once US troops leave.

How about getting some people from Iraq to talk about this to the US public????
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:49 AM
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7. That's when I turned off the tv
I couldn't deal with the quasi-patriotic Finding Private Whoever scenario.
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Lauri Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:36 AM
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11. Bush contacted her - not the other way around
How much do you want to bet that she was guaranteed that her husband and the one son that are back from Iraq would not have to return and the other 4 sons would not be put on dangerous missions?

Bush goes on and on saying that Sheenan's views don't represent most military families that he has spoken to... that is the point, he won't speak to anyone unless they agree with him.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:42 AM
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12. I wondered about that myself
After all, with that many sons in Iraq, the chances are pretty good of injury or death to at least one of them. What an embarrassment it would be if, after bush's PR stunt, one loses an arm, leg, or worse.

Yes, I think a little match was made here.




Cher
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:44 AM
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20. So Much Truth in that Statement
"that is the point, he won't speak to anyone unless they agree with him."

Why do I read this story and get the image of Saddam patting that little boy on the head before the start of the first Gulf War?

"See, I'm not that bad of a guy. This little tyke just loves me".
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:57 AM
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13. What an infantile stunt.
Note to Shrub: a large segment of the population is a whole lot smarter than you! Note to Tammie the mom: don't judge Cindy until you stand by a flag-draped coffin.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:00 AM
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14. She had NO moral authority
and we know she is in deep denial.

Plus she is being used.

I really feel sort of sorry for her.

Even if her sons manage to survive -- if they are normal they will more than likely have deep psychological wounds. Ask the Vietnam era vets --
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:04 AM
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15. They probably gave her a free SUV.
Or maybe she's sufficiently inexpensive that a couple of tanks of
gas for her current SUV were enough.

Tesha
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:04 AM
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16. Bush* emboldened Ho Chi Minh when he deserted his post and refused to
fly any more. His was an act of absolute cowardice and emboldened the enemy in 1970.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:12 AM
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17. As a veteran, I suppose I have a different point of view...
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 07:14 AM by ALiberalSailor
...but I appreciate when a mother is as supportive of her family's sacrifices as this one appears to have been. It's a choice we make when we join the military or marry into a military family. However, what is being done to the other mother who lost her son in Iraq is absolutely disgusting, horrific, and totally repulsive. And any attempt by anyone to suggest that a grieving mother is somehow helping to embolden the terrorists is equally off their rocker.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:25 AM
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23. I appreciate that her family is basically all in Iraq...
but I think what is galling people here is that she is being used to slam Cindy Sheehan. I mean, where was her 15 minutes of fame with Bush before he needed someone for a photo op???
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:23 AM
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18. "See! See? Not all soldier's moms hate me!"
"Lookie, look at me, I have moms who like me. I don't need that whiny ditch woman to get on TV, I can find moms who support me kill--- I mean, sending their children to secure Iraq's oil, I mean freedom!

"Why won't anybody look at me?"
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:39 AM
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19. Bush is so political, he never really understands the common folk. nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:11 AM
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21. Tammany Hall in Washington...
If you kiss his* ass, you will get a little something in the mail, however, if you expose him for the fraud that he is, watch your ass.

He* is the most loathsome scumbag every to walk the halls of gov't.

What a child*.

colossal failure*.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:22 AM
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22. Leave it to BUSH to turn Americans against each other...
...that's all he has left.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:37 PM
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24. The uniter
Mr.Bush has united the Arabs,not the Americans.
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Yoda Yada Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:01 PM
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26. Divided... Bush stands, United... Bush falls...
That is the only way Bush can win....he MUST keep the nation divided...abortion, gay marriage, flag burning, intelligent design...

If the Bush administration can continue to keep our country DIVIDED...Bush will win. IF....the country UNITES AGAINST the Bush administration...Bush will fall. (plain and simple)

Let's put "UNITED" back into the "UNITED" States.
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