Congresman likens divorce to gay nuptials

[Charlie Brown]

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/fortwayne/news/local/12472633.htm

EVANSVILLE – U.S. Rep. John Hostettler told a gathering of clergy that divorce is as dangerous to society as gay marriage and that churches are essential to strengthening families.

“The picture of marriage is the picture of Christian salvation,” Hostettler, R-Ind., said Tuesday. “Any diminishing of that notion – whether homosexual marriage or any other degradation of marriage – is something we must fight in public policy.”

[rkc3]

1. Rush and Newt must be spinning wildly at this one.

[Betty]

30. let's not forget St. Ronnie

isn't Nancy his second wife?

[bribri16]

33. And George Will, and over half the Republican Congress and the Rev

Charles Stanley, the Bakers, and what was that Bush brother's name.

[Justitia]

2. cool. Let's see how far he gets. -eom

[FlemingsGhost]

3. Of course, GOP elected officials do not count.

This guy is overcompensating.

Gay himself?

Pedophile?

There's something coming out "sideways," here.

[Walt Starr]

5. I'm betting his wife is getting ready to file for divorce

because of his homosexual affairs.

[despairing optimist]

39. She's probably waiting till her bum isn't so sore.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. :-)

[Mass]

4. He is right - they are as dangerous one as the other -

Meaning Not dangerous at all.

[bunkerbuster1]

9. yes, let's do link the two.

And let's make sure that America knows about how Republicans want to keep people in crappy marriages; it's all part of their cleansing jihad.

Let's see how that goes over in the heartland, where divorce is more likely to happen than in Blue America.

[Initech]

6. Evangelicals get scarier by the day.

And this guy is a perfect example, these people are seriously deranged. Divorce is the same thing as gay marriage? Did I miss a meeting?

[rodeodance]

7. “The picture of marriage is the picture of Christian salvation,

[RaleighNCDUer]

11. We know that because

Jesus and all his disciples were married.

[Initech]

24. I dont remember that scripture...

Which one is it?

[mitchum]

28. It's in the Book of Pat (the one written in blood and green crayon)

[Binka]

53. I've Never Introduced Myself mitchum

But I love your style you make me laugh. You are a very funny man. Can I have your baby? I make cute ones here is me hugging my baby girl Peyton.

[mitchum]

58. You have made my day!

And you certainly do make cute babies :)
Thank you for your kind words

[demigoddess]

42. christian priests would not recognize marriage til the middle ages and

then they only blessed the couple on the (outside) steps of the church. they did not perform marriages at all and now they are experts on the matter. Hah!!!

[athenap]

14. Of Course...

...haven't you seen the china pattern at the Last Supper?

Jesus wants you to have an entire set of Calphalon cookware, including a Bundt cake pan. :P

[hyphenate]

19. oh yeah--right!

Probably a 60 year old virgin or something like that. :eyes:

[GirlieQ]

8. and how is he proposing to fight divorce?

Deny people the right to end a contract? Doesn't that have dangerous implications for other types of contracts?

[hyphenate]

20. Yeah!

Shoot 'em if you can't live with 'em!!!

[area51]

45. Welcome.

Welcome to DU, GirlieQ. :hi:

[phantom power]

10. It's all so clear to me now...

If we all just formed perfect heterosexual nuclear families, then:

The oil shortage will disappear.
Global warming will reverse itself.
Islamic terrorists will suddenly recant and convert to Evangelical Protestantism.
Everybody will obtain a lucrative and personally satifying job.
It will only rain after sundown.

[BR_Parkway]

12. Seems like divorce is more dangerous to 'degrading' marriage

and would be the only one of those two things that Jesus himself spoke against. But hey, we only have to listen to him when we want to or can put money in our campaign coffers.

[Rockholm]

13. "Christian Salvation" via marriage? Jews must love that.

So must Hindus and Muslims and Buddists and every other person of non- Christian followings. For that matter, this Christian desperately wants absolutely NOTHING to do with their "brand" of Christianity.

Hey pal, if gay marriage and divorce are equals, push baby push for a constituional amendment to ban divorce. I will gladly sign that petition.

[Enraged_Ape]

15. Then Rush Limbaugh must be, what, "thrice" dangerous?

I will be completely honest and say that of all the couples I have personally known, the ones that have divorced MOST are Republicans. The ones that have stayed together, through thick and through thin, are Dems.

For the record, my wife (a progressive Dem) and I have been together for nearly 20 years. That is the equivalent of two eternities in Republican years.

[Vogon_Glory]

16. The Holy Joe Right Has Wanted To Restrict Divorce For Years

The self-righteous right has wanted to restrict divorce for years now. I remember coming across a Cal Thomas riff on the subject while channel surfing during a cross-country drive nearly ten years ago. Of course the place-sitters and presstitutes of the corporate media weren't paying the slightest bit of attention.

I can't say that I'm fond of the notion of divorce myself--but I strongly oppose the Polyester Pharisees' efforts to force everyone to take the Polyester Pharisees' so-called "covenant marriage."

[liberalhistorian]

49. "Polyester Pharisees",

lol! That's a perfect way to describe these idiots. I absolutely cannot stand hypocrisy, and for repukes to be ranting against divorce has to be the ultimate hypocrisy, considering how many of them are on their second or third wives ('ol Newtie Gingrich, anyone)?

Speaking of Newt-how is it moral to serve your first wife divorce papers while she's in the hospital for cancer surgery, then marry the mistress you left said first wife for, then leave your second wife to marry your much-younger legislative assistant?

[Vogon_Glory]

51. Feel Free To Use The Phrase, And Also Remember That...

Please feel free to use the phrase yourself, since it's out in the open. Also, I recall hearing somewhere that the Old Testament Jews were forbidden to wear cloth woven of two different materials. So anyone wearing, say, a 60% cotton, 40% polyester shirt would be in violation of OT law.

Also, someone else on this thread pointed out that a lot of the Red States with the highest percentages of evangelicals in their populations are also the ones with the highest divorce rates.

[liberalhistorian]

60. Conservatives actually have higher

divorce rates than liberals or non-conservatives; that goes for all conservatives and not just evangelical ones. That fits with the pattern I've seen among people I know; most libs I know have been married for decades, while most conservatives I know or know of have been divorced at least once.

[melody]

17. must be major skeletons in that old bird's cage

[hyphenate]

18. Ah--very good

So he's all for keeping a mistress, then?



What a putz!

[Catfight]

21. PUKE....christians are so sickening in their thoughts. nt

[Mari333]

22. highest divorce rates in the USA are christian evangelicals.

[tomg]

23. Could somebody please explain just

wtf "“The picture of marriage is the picture of Christian salvation” means. Seriously, I have no idea as to what that sentence means. It is gibberish. Do these guys get their linguistic inspiration from Firesign Theatre ( no insult intended to Firesign theatre)? Seriously, try reading that sentence with just about any word thrown in for "picture:" car battery, avocado, razor wire. They all fit and they all make just as little sense. Trying to read this drivel is like trying to swim through a pool of molasses.

[FlemingsGhost]

31. Well, the picture of "Christian salvation" is a guy nailed to a cross

Sounds like marriage to me ...

[Lilith Velkor]

55. Actually it's an empty tomb

That sounds more like divorce.

[geckosfeet]

25. Pandering pug pig. n/t

[Az_lefty]

26. Ha ha ha ha

do you realize how many Gay republicans there are now???
:rofl:

[Charles]

27. Splain?

Perhaps this schmuck from Indiana isn't aware that - the state w/the LOWEST DIVORCE RATE in the country (Massachusetts) - is the only state which allows same-sex couples to wed!

Maybe Hostetler should focus on 'Red State' divorce rates. Afterall, they are the highest in the Nation.



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[VegasWolf]

29. People must do what I say, not what I do! nt

[Mabus]

32. advice from a guy who packs a gun

Gee, who'd thunk it?


http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/20/congressman.gun/

Gun found in congressman's carry-on bag
Lawmaker detained, but not arrested at airport

CNN Washington Bureau
Tuesday, April 20, 2004 Posted: 8:02 PM EDT (0002 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A U.S. congressman was briefly detained at a Kentucky airport Tuesday after authorities found a loaded gun in his bag at a screening checkpoint, authorities said.

Rep. John Hostettler, R-Indiana, "completely forgot" he had the gun in his bag as he prepared to take a US Airways flight to Washington for the first day of work after a two-week recess, a spokesman for the congressman said.

A Homeland Security Department official said Hostettler had a loaded 9 mm Glock pistol in his bag at Louisville International Airport.

[Uncle Roy]

36. A 9mm Glock? Sounds French to me...

But their logo is cute:


Still, it wasn't very Patriotic of him to carry a concealed loaded French handgun onto a passenger plane heading for Washington DC. Even if he thinks their logo is cute...

Pack American!

Roy

[Mabus]

44. Not to mention it was the 5th anniversary of Columbine

Ooops. What a day to be carrying a gun in public! That was kind of tacky but maybe he was trying to send a positive message of solidarity to high school shooters.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/20/earlyshow/main612726.shtml

[BobbyinPortland]

34. I smell a plane crash

Maybe it'll be from low fuel!

[Justitia]

41. OMG, LOL!! -eom

[WildClarySage]

35. Can we assume that he's also speaking out against

domestic violence, infidelity and substance abuse? Or is his answer to stick with a bad mate no matter what?

Does this guy think the world is populated with a bunch of Marian and Howard Cunninghams? Do Americans really want this kind of deluded politico making up the rules for us?

[Cha]

37. Not the churches I've

been reading about lately ..no they aren't not essential to strengthening families.

I don't believe in a church that would send Soldiers to die in a misbegotten war and Iraqis to be slaughtered for their savior lord bush.

Divorce is a way of life..it could happen to anybody and it has nothing to do with Gay Marriages..One is about Love and the other is about the death of a marriage.

[Megahurtz]

38. Where do they get these guys from?

:popcorn:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

40. Rethuglican Fundy Shithead Reps are as dangerous to society

as those who abuse their children and spouses.

[GoBlue]

43. Seems to me that Christianity degraded marriage a long-time ago.

What with them thinking that society determines whether a marriage is true or not.

[Sub Atomic]

46. this is GREAT news!!!

he's just opened a new argument for legalizing and government recognition of gay marriage.

if divorce is the same as homosexual marriage, and divorce is legal, then by using that exact logic then homosexual marriage (and governmental recognition) should also be legal.

:spaz:

[Barkley]

47. Were marriages "arranged" by the parents during Biblical times?

[JerseygirlCT]

48. Interesting to note

Jesus actually spoke about divorce (not a good thing). Never once is he said to have mentioned homosexuality, and certainly not gay marriage.

So all those thrice-married hypocrites on the radical right might want to take a closer look at themselves before deciding that Bruce and Fred getting married will cause the end of the world.

[BiggJawn]

50. Can't you people in Evansville retire that kook?

"Cant you people in Monticello (or Spencer) get rid of Buyer?"

Oh...Sorry, point taken...:)

All we can do is try to inform and VOTE....

I gess I need to drop Hostiler a line like I did Hershman, the Author of the "Protection of Marriage Act"...

[0007]

52. How do these pricks get elected?

[Binka]

54. Diebold What A disappointment This guy must be To His Mother

She was hoping for a baby but they brought the after birth. She did her best but there just wasn't much to work with. Sigh.

[Judi Lynn]

56. Here's his photo. He introduced a bill in Congress

seeking reciprocity for gun owners in other states which allow concealed carrying. It hasn't moved since it was introduced.



Blessed are the concealed carry Christians, for they are prepared at all times to send others to the Kingdom of Heaven.

[Binka]

57. Yuck What A Freak Of Course He Wants To Abolish Divorce

The minute his wife 1. Gets sober or 2. pulls her head out of her ass she is GONE!

[JoFerret]

59. Divorce....yes

...very dangerous influence on the stability gays and their relationships. Good focus for the loonies.
No GOP divorced person should be allowed to run for public office.