Bush supporters and war protestors plan debate (Cindy says yes, but...)

[sabra]

http://www.kxxv.com/main.cfm?ID=1&NewsID=2173&Type=Full

Bush supporters and war protestors plan debate — (08/25/2005)

Supporters of President Bush and war protestors have agreed to a face-off.
More Bush supporters are expected to be in Crawford this weekend, just in time for a debate between the opposing camps.

During a press conference earlier today, Cindy Sheehan agreed to debate supporters of President Bush.

...

Sheehan agreed to the debate under one condition, she does not want the media to attend and she has not given a reason as to why yet.

Gary Qualls says he will still debate Sheehan even if the media is not there.

[YOY]

1. Does she need the media to attend? Do they? n/t

[ecoflame]

3. Absolutely not !!

It will not only weaken what she has done thus far, it will turn this 'tipping point' upside and only be good for Bush.

The media will critique the shit out of it and turn it into a freak show.

[YOY]

6. My point exactly.

I wish we had a rhetorical question 'smiley' like we have the 'sarcasm' one.

The last thing anyone needs is more ridiculous media bias (especially Faux). If they truly want answers she'll give them some so that they can understand just why she want answers from the chimp.

[deacon]

26. you're absolutely right.

[smoogatz]

2. Here's where Sharpton comes in.

Let freaking Sharpton debate them. How fantastic would THAT be?

[fob]

13. That would be pay-per-view gold! I'd love to see Al smack em down

in Prime Time.

[BrotherBuzz]

21. I wouldn't mind Al sharpton being the moderator

Really, I would trust him to do a great job and to keep the debate on track. Only, I guess it might be the first time, ever, we would have to establish a time limit for the moderator.
:rofl:

[Gabi Hayes]

4. ''More Bush supporters are expected to be in Crawford this weekend, ...''

....just in time for a debate between the opposing camps.''

PLEASE get some people there with enlistment forms for all the war supporters and their children

I sure hope those exchanges get some pub

[wakeme2008]

5. Bullshit

Gary Qualls says he will still debate Sheehan even if the media is not there.


Qualls will not debate unless Fox is there big time..


Cindy is making him out to be a chicken... :rofl:

[Webster Green]

7. Those assholes are incapable of debate....

All they can manage is to scream insults and idiotic Rovian talking points.

Sounds like fun to watch them melt-down though!

[kskiska]

8. Bad Idea

She should remain above the fray. It'll only turn into a brawl, which is what they want.

[wakeme2008]

9. There will be no debate without the media,,, Rove will demand that

but Cindy called their buff and said OK but no media...

What will they say now,,, she's a coward unless Fox is there. that is a lose lose call.

[Iowa]

11. I agree. This is a horrible idea...

Cindy has the nation's attention. What would be served by Cindy sharing the stage with these fascists? Why elevate them to her level? This isn't a clash of morally equivalent viewpoints; it's more like Rosa Parks debating the Ku Klux Klan. It would be a terrible mistake.

[Carni]

39. In addition what is there to debate?

There is no debate here--is Qualls going to pull proof of weapons of mass destruction or a compromising video of a Saddam/ Bin laden love child out of his ass?

If not then what is there to debate?

No connection between AQ and Iraq, no weapons of mass destruction.

[UDenver20]

15. Disagree...

Good idea... and with the media...

If she wins... then awesome.

If she loses, then...

Picture some fat, obnoxious, cruel-looking warmonger waiving his finger at a crying mom who is being unfairly attacked with nonsequitorvone-liners on the cover of six-dozen newspapers.

[Al-CIAda]

19. Yes, why debate this guy? Bad move imo - She came to speak with George

'what noble cause'?

This is a heat shield meant to take the spot off asswipe.

[RSchewe]

23. She should stay on message.

Who is this nut that wants to debate her and why should she? What is there to gain out of it?

Another Bush operative trying to undermine her. No media for the debate?

Yeah right...

Lose-lose proposition.

What is this character some kind of a tough guy? Where the heck did he come from?

[Justyce]

27. Exactly -- they are managing to take the

focus off of Bush and make it an us against them thing. I hope she "stays the course" and keeps her focus on BUSH, not this Qualls dude.

[Roland99]

33. Bingo! After this month is over, then maybe. But not right now!

[jayctravis]

31. She's showing that nobody is above talking to someone else.

If he requests face time with her, there's really no reason not to talk to him.

[Larkspur]

10. Calling for a private debate is a smart move on Cindy's part.

This way the Media can not distort it and spread more lies.

[librechik]

14. yeah! I suspect a little Network Bird whispered in a freeper's ear

about this--so Cindy ruined his day!

Very very smart!

watch em back down now...

for gods sake don't let Mark Williams or Melanie Morgan near her! They'll steam roll right over her! Give Sharpton those two!

[loudsue]

12. Regardless....bring in the DU RESEARCHERS!!! Get Cindy all the

information...facts, footnotes, and sources she needs!!

NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY is better than the DU Researchers!!

Cindy can CLEAN THEIR CLOCK!

:kick:

[Dr Fate]

16. I love it. No media.

I think it's the smartest thing to do at this point-she probably just wants to talk with them, mother to mother.

[54anickel]

34. Yes, I don't know Cindy but it seems she speaks from the heart, while

this Quall guy seems to spout Rush talking points while in the media lime-light.

Someone posted a picture of Cindy giving this guy a hug. They have the lose of a son in common. A private heart-to-heart may not change anyone's mind but could lead to a civil agreement to disagree - mutual respect for each other's viewpoints. It is from that basis that an honest dialog can begin and progress can be made.

I know - wishful thinking.

[shanti]

37. this is the same guy cindy was hugging?

hmmm, i thought that hug made everything all better for him....apparently not!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

17. I don't think she should meet with them at all, but if she does, I agree

with the 'no media'. Because the whole purpose of the 'prowar' folks is a fabrication of Rovian PR factory and needs media oxygen to fulfill its purpose. Her point I guess is if we debate it will be an honest exchange of ideas and not to fulfill some media circus.

Of course the whole purpose of the wingnut counterprotest is to create a supposedly RW leaning media circus.

[CityDem]

18. Losing proposition

If the media is not allowed to attend, they will contend that Cindy is a coward or a loon. She should allow the media to attend and stick to her message -- she would kick ass.

[Corgigal]

20. Please tell Cindy this is an awful idea

Both of these people lost children in the conflict. They have a difference of opinion on how to honor their children's lives. Their can no winner or loser here. Leave it lie and let them both be.

Now if people want to debate who are in the military, vets or vets families that's fine. I just don't think we need to see people so wounded debating. This is not a college course, that pain is for keeps.

[Lindacooks]

22. Why should she debate them? She wants answers from BUSH

not his demented 'supporters'.

And besides, their kind doesn't 'debate'. All they do is yell and lie and interrupt.

[RSchewe]

24. She should debate BUSH not this clown. n/t

[deacon]

25. I think this is a bad idea, she should have responded 'there is nothing

to debate.'

[Justyce]

28. PERFECT ANSWER.

[Megahurtz]

36. Agreed. eom

[jsamuel]

29. I think SHE DID ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING!!!!!!!

He has lost a loved one, she has lost a loved one. If they need to debate PRIVATELY in order to help each other grieve, then that is wonderful. The media should not attend this as it is between two people who are in a similar situation and could be disastrous for the nation if they saw this much heartbreak coming at each other in a debate on national TV. And by that, I mean that it would probably be bad for Cindy because it would make her look like an attention grabber (even if she wins) and it would give Qualls more reason to shout and less reason to listen.

She just naturally seems to be able to do the right thing... I find it very strange... She kind of knows what to do all the time... And she isn't a polition... Maybe that is why...

[GoBlue]

30. I hope Cindy has something up her sleeve...

--- like CSpan---because this looks disingenuous on the face of it.

[Maggie_May]

32. There should be a debate

there also should be a debate with the Senate and the Congress. Enough is a enough our Democrat Representatives should also be debating this. Call email and write your Representatives too Bring our Troops Home!

[mmonk]

35. Message to media

You can't be trusted. Your credibility has been challenged. Good move.

[Uncle Joe]

38. Well said, the media sold out the American people years ago

and their credibility is slim and none and slim just left the building. The journalists of integrity have been replaced by the reincarnated courtesans of the French Kings during their revolution.

[Puglover]

40. Agreed

they would still be licking the catfish grease off their lips from Bunnypants little suckup fest.