RawStory: (Pat) Buchanan suggests Bush impeachment

[sabra]

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Buchanan_suggests_Bush_imp_0829.html

Buchanan suggests Bush impeachment
John Byrne

Pat Buchanan, a leading conservative pundit and former presidential adviser, quietly suggested House Republicans mull impeaching President Bush -- though not for the liberals' cause celebre, Iraq -- but rather for what he sees as Bush's 'criminal' failure to stem the tide of illegal immigrants, RAW STORY has discovered.

"We are being invaded," the reactionary Republican declared in his column Monday, "and the president of the United States is not doing his duty to protect the states against that invasion."

"Some courageous Republican, to get the attention of this White House, should drop into the hopper a bill of impeachment," he added, "charging Bush with a conscious refusal to uphold his oath and defend the states of the Union against 'invasion.'"

Strikingly, he credits Democrats for 'awakening' to the issue.

"Not only have Richardson and Napolitano awakened — they are on the front lines — so, too, has Hillary Clinton, who has spoken out against illegal immigration with a forthrightness that makes Bush sound like a talking head for La Raza."

[autorank]

1. RawStory---You rock

Whath a news flash.

GREAT POST sabra. :yourock:

[shoelace414]

2. wow.. impeaching Clinton was a great idea

now and forever everyone going to want to impeach whoever is the sitting president for policies.

[calimary]

35. Um... nobody held a gun to anyone's head and forced them to

persecute Clinton. They did it for sheer shittiness - and as that fat, white-haired, fascist abomination henry hyde actually admitted - it was payback for Nixon. So, I apologize, but if this is the way they wanna play it, then let the games begin. Nothing would be more appropriate and fair and fitting for these people than a TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE.

And frankly, all that is really beside the point here. The illegal immigration issue is one reason some people can sink their teeth into, but I can think of MULTIPLE highly-legitimate reasons to impeach this asshole, completely logical and on the level. I'm glad the "I" word is being invoked more freely now.

See? Impeachment IS an option. Even among republi-CONS, it's actually being entertained now. Fair enough. Whatever works. Because bush NEEDS VERY BADLY AND URGENTLY to be impeached. If ANY "president" deserved impeachment, he does.

Fan the fire. Plant the seed. Poison the well. Spread the word:

Impeachment IS an option.

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!
Pass it on...

[Just Me]

41. It is bizarre that the most culpable and destructive "shits",...

,...who had no interest in advancing the potential of our people and country but rather were OBSESSED with defeating their "political" (pro-American potential) enemy in order to maintain their egos and profit and power, are so fucking evil that they would not only destroy a "mediator" (Clinton) but they have gone so FAR, being without human or AMERICAN conscience, whatsoever, that they DID, IN FACT, BETRAY AND EXPLOIT AND ABUSE the very people they are suppose to serve.

They will continue to prove their complete disrespect and exploitation and abuse of our people and our values,...as long as it profits their interests. I hope BLIND "loyalty" will churn in reality and evolve into human actualization.

[KansDem]

63. My newest bumper sticker idea...

LIES, LIES LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES
No Iraqi Weapons--Plame Outing--Downing Street Minutes
IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT!
C'mon, Republicans! We Know You Can Do It!

[stopbush]

3. Pat Buchannan - urging * to save us from the brown people

while the same brown people are off fighting for Pat and dying in Iraq in the illegal war that Pat's candidate of choice started.

[babylonsister]

6. At this point, I'll take

*'s impeachment any way I can get it!

[rateyes]

62. But, only if Cheney goes with him. eom

[mahatmakanejeeves]

16. I'm certain

Pat has been against this whole Iraq misadventure since the very beginning.

[klyon]

26. yes...... I am shocked that I agree with Pat on the war

But why won't he call for impeachment on the war something George is solely responsible for, instead of illegal immigration which has been going on for decades. Why isn't he calling for enforcement and sanctions against companies that hire illegals.

KL

[mahatmakanejeeves]

33. Even Bob Barr

objects to the Patriot Act.

[amerfayed]

60. patriot act

and to human decency.

[Just Me]

28. Well, this should be about consistent application of the rule of law.

Immigration laws and regulations should applied consistently and BushCo has advanced the interests of slave laborers in loosening those laws as they apply to our Mexican brothers and sisters. BushCo's policy hurts BOTH the American people AND the Mexican people.

Moreover, if the Republican party is willing to create its own grounds for impeachment in addition to all other grounds that exist, that is perfectly fine with me.

[earth mom]

34. Well said! I agree with you 100%. eom

[KyndCulture]

4. well hell hath truly become a hockey rink... nt.

[AtomicKitten]

5. With so many reasons to impeach

it's hard to pick just one!

They'll never do it in a millions years. But I like the sound of it.

[Carla in Ca]

27. "With so many reasons"

Here is a little story.

Two weeks ago we had the family here for my husband's birthday. His sister and her husband (ages 64 & 61) hated Clinton (forgive them) and thought * was a great *resident in his first term. They have since changed their minds. Their reversal is stunning to say the least. Their reason for this turn around? SOCIAL SECURITY.

My Dad (age 74) is so Conservative, he thinks Gingrich is God. But, to our surprise, he also said * should be impeached! We couldn't believe our ears! The reason? * NOT PROTECTING THE BORDERS.

My mom, my husband and myself, of course, hate *'s guts so ANY reason will do, Iraq most importantly.

So, there you have it. Conservatives, Independents and Democrats all at one table, all wanting the same thing...impeachment.

Who would have thought?

[IndyOp]

55. Your story warms my heart!

Impeach, imprison, repeat.
Impeach, imprison, repeat.
Impeach, imprison, repeat.

:kick:

[Carla in Ca]

57. Mine, too!

Usually politics is a taboo subject. But all of a sudden, my husband started talking about the weekly Code Pink protest we go to and everybody just jumped into the conversation. It was so cool, everybody was laughing about how different we are politically but we have such a consensus about this. It was a great, great day.

[Tiggeroshii]

7. Well maybe he's just heard so many people say "impeach Bush" so often, he

wouldn't think we'd be going out on a limb doing it. Beside, an impeachment is in recent history. it sounds to me like we've got buchanon on our side with the impeachment idea now. And if anything, he might even save Hillary from all the repugs trying to smear her. I dunno. Maybe I'm buying too much into it?

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. Gonzolez probably readying indictments for Pat

for trying to incite violence and overthrow the Government. Meanwhile, the other Pat goes merrily along his way continuing to shoot his mouth off as a 'private citizen'.

[Imagevision]

59. Gonzalez may be facing his own indictment situation from Fitgerald!!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[Norquist Nemesis]

61. Hopefully!!! n/t

[Orsino]

9. Every time Buchanan begins to sound sane...

...he spouts trivial BS like this.

[PurityOfEssence]

10. What a snarling, sexist, racist primitive

The very idea of sneering about women's rights in Iraq is just nauseating. Has anyone told this crypto-white-supremacist that these illegals are fellow Catholics, and if he lets them in it'll help his dream of religious world dominance against all these pesky Protestants? Makes ya wonder...does he hate non-whites or non-catholics more? Such a complex world.

He speaks his mind, at least, but his candor is his only good trait.

[deadparrot]

11. Somehow I doubt anything serious will come of it.

But hey. :shrug:

[LeftyElvis]

12. Buchanan

hates Jews. He sees the war as started by neo-con Jews and Israel. He is a nazi creep.

[bee]

13. ummmm

ok. So war crimes are acceptable... but Mexicans... THATS where we draw the line!

that about right? :eyes:

[RethugAssKicker]

14. Hes just stirring up anti-Mexican feelings

as much as possible... Remember Mexicans (illegal immigration) will be the next boogeyman for the 2006 eleactions!

[bee]

15. what a jackass (pat) n/t

[Centered]

48. totally agree

He is just throwing it out there hopeful some over eager blind idiot will "take impeachment anyway they can get it" and make the democrat party the bad guys who hate Mexicans. So we can spend all of 2006 and/or 2007 having hearings etc that wont amount to anything less than destroying the prospects of the latin vote for a democratic candidate.

Centered

[berni_mccoy]

17. Looks like I was right!

Illegal immigration is the key to turning republicans:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4482922&mesg_id=4482922

[belle]

40. Well, but then what? It's not as though the only options here are

neocons or liberal democrats, you know. I have been worried for a while that when the inevitable backlash against the neocons comes, it could just as easily be hijacked by the kind of reactionary nativist right-wing populism that Buchanan represents. In some ways they might sound better than the neo-cons, at least at first (more economic protectionism, bring the troops home); but socially they could be oh so much worse. These are where a lot of the rank and file theocons come in, too, you realize. All it needs is a good ol' homespun boy with a working-class background to start talking about how what we really need is to get back to good old-fashioned values and keep American to/for America. think less Cheney, but more Ashcroft, and you'll get a good idea of what that might feel like. Thanks but no. And speaking as the good friend of a formerly illegal immigrant, and having witnessed just a taste of the *massive* exploitation that happens to those who slip between the legal cracks here, I have no time for the self-appointed border patrol.

[despairing optimist]

18. Am I a heretic when I say, in this case, that the end justifies the means?

Yes, that's the neocon way, but it's any which way you can in these desperate times. The immigration issue is too important to be a red herring, and I don't support the RW view on immigration, but I can't help thinking that Pat is using it as a pretext to remove ideologues he believes are too radical even for him. Repubs of all stripes should be climbing aboard the impeachment bandwagon soon enough, whatever their reasons, the chief one being self-preservation as it was with Nixon. They say they have a big tent; I hope their wagon has a reinforced suspension.

Just goes to show that guys like Cheney and Rumsfeld, who cut their political teeth in the Nixon administration, can't even pull things off for their own clique when they stack everything in their favor. The fallout has only begun; as John Dean said, it's worse, far worse, than Watergate.

[mindfulNJ]

23. I think I agree with you.

They ultimately had to resort to bringing down Al Capone with tax evasion charges, right?

[meganmonkey]

19. While it is nice to hear the 'I' word...

I don't really feel so great about this. He has committed plenty of impeachable offenses that, given a proper trial, would result in exposing bushco's guilt. I am just not sure this is one of them. I would hate to have a huge waste of taxpayer money and time on an unsuccessful impeachment. Let's save it for the war crimes and lies.

:shrug:

[WindRavenX]

20. Pat boy is nuttier than squirrel shit

NT

[MelissaB]

38. LMAO! ...nuttier than squirrel shit!

:rofl:

[geckosfeet]

21. While many would like to see chimpy impeached, this is an

opportunistic and cavalier call by Buchanan.

This weakens the impeachment option and moves it farther into the category of a simple political tool or method.

Buchanan's so called invasion, is poor and destitute people willing to work for $5 an hour to clean up his crap.

<snip>
"What are these Bush Republicans afraid of?" he continues. "Dirty looks from the help at the country club?"
</snip>

Pretty clear what he thinks of the help. This is simply Buchanan turning the impeachment wrench to advance his national racial purity cause.

I AGREE that the borders are a national security issue and I feel that the national guard should be on OUR borders not Iraq's. Why did Buchanan not mention that?

Is he throwing the impeachment option around because national policy does not support his desire for racial purity and a white nation?

Does this detract from the REAL and LEGITIMATE reasons that our chimp in chief should be impeached?

on edit: sp.

[loudsue]

50. What Geckosfeet said! Very profound, and so true.

We need to ground the impeachment thing in honest values, not racism. We've already been going so far in the wrong direction; another wrong direction isn't the answer.

:kick::kick::kick:

[geckosfeet]

56. Why thanks loudsue! Never been profound before. I agree

that Buchanan's BS just takes us farther down the wrong road. Its even worse than that though. Its wacko. It takes us no where.

I think he is just spouting noise to throw the hounds off the real impeachment scent.

What he said is so bigoted I don't think even he believes it. He probably think its will distract people for while and give the shrub some breathing room.

[BadGimp]

22. Pat you've just been dis-invited from the GOP

Imigration is a no win for the GOP. For them to reveal their true agenda on imigration would expose the party for the corporate whores they truly are. That would'nt be prudent.

[jaysunb]

24. Howard Dean predicted they would

scapegoat Hispanics in the next election. I guess this is how it starts.
Oh yes, and Lou " I Hate Mexicans" Dobbs.

[Ishoutandscream2]

25. No fake! You give the exact reason why I hate Dobbs

All of his "anti illegal immigration talk" is just a ruse for his hatred of brown people. God, I hate Dobbs.

[0007]

36. There is nothing I like about CNN and Lou Dobbs is just another

ass kissing whore for junior that tries to come across as an okay guy.

[jaysunb]

39. That's strange...I never noticed him

trying to act like " AN OK GUY ." He seems to pride himself on being a " pompous ass !"

[Coventina]

29. *sigh* ONCE AGAIN...just because Pat criticizes *, he is NOT our friend!

We are talking about someone who would happily see me burn at the stake.

Do I want to see Bush impeached? YES

Do I want him impeached because of Patoid's bullcrap reason? NO!

We do NOT want to get into bed with this guy! Not for ANY REASON!

Some lines you just do not cross.

[Javaman]

30. Know what Pat? Fine, knock yourself out. If you need to

redefine the reason for chimpass* to be kicked out so it's palatable for the repukes, go crazy. Your methods are bizarre but our goals are the same.

[Voltaire99]

31. Buchanan: one step forward, one thousand steps back

He's perfectly right to oppose US imperialism, as he has done vociferously since before the Iraq war--this I know because I read antiwar.com. But that's the only subject on which he's right.

On immigration and virtually every domestic issue, he's a nationalist religious fascist.

[iconoclastic cat]

32. He's a bigoted asshole, but fine: attack the Repub's right flank.

We'll take the left. Perhaps, between the two sides, we can render Bush impotent for the rest of his term.

[goforit]

37. Over immigration??....Not Wag the Dog WTC-911/Iraq ethnic cleansing??

Illeagal Immigration is an issue, but,

But having a treasonist terrorist residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is another story.

Priorities are warped.

But impeachment is a good idea none the less.

[leesa]

42. Well, if it must be for an idiotic, fantasy reason, so be it!

[paineinthearse]

43. Proud to give this its 5th nomination

John, :yourock:

[EVDebs]

44. PITA, did you see Rawstory's other article on FBI ?

They're investigating peace groups and labelling them 'terrorists'.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4500788

Chilling. I remembered the Aug. 4, 1997 Time Magazine article on the Mormon hiring preference of the FBI and CIA, since the Rawstory article mentioned that affirmative action groups were being investigated...and wonder if the FBI/CIA will be investigated for that religious hiring preference themselves.

Nyuck, nyuck !

Also, former Reagan Tresury official Paul Craig Roberts, has called for Bush's impeachment on Iraq War grounds, lies to Congress in order to pursue the war. The War Powers Act would require truthful circumstances in order to be enacted legally, which didn't occur here. The Bush excuse would be they 'thought' they had truthful circumstances...

[paineinthearse]

45. It's been posted here but I haven't gotten to it yet

So many scandals, so little time.

[Nothing Without Hope]

46. This is truly bizarre. I wonder what cross-aisle agreements are being

made in secret. If ambitious Democrats make deals with Rethugs, I want to know what they're promising.

Getting the blivet** out of office will accomplish nothing if Cheney and the rest of the cabal are allowed to continue with their plans for world conquest and domestic suppression.

[AlphaCentauri]

47. Does that mean I have to kiss Pat Buchanan?

"Human Cannonball" flies over the U.S.-Mexico border fence from the Playas de Tijuana area of Tijuana, Mexico to Border Field State Park, in San Diego, Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005, in San Diego.

:sarcasm:

[Rex]

49. Like Pat would know anything about La Raza!

Pat sometimes gets it right (Reganites CAN be right on rare occasions) but is still a Christian Identity kinda guy!

Wonder how many white power rallies Pat goes to a year?

[anotherdrew]

51. who will be the third "Pat" to make news?

more about Tillman to come out?
Pat LaFontaine?
Pat Boone?

no...
NFL: The pat-down policy will begin with Thursday's contest against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Security individuals conducting the pat-downs ...

PAT-DOWNS will make us all SO SO SO much safer.
Thank the all-mighty Authority!

[njdemocrat106]

52. Pat Boone was in the news recently... He's anti-Sheehan (nt)

[Joebert]

54. Wow, a hockey fan!

Pulling LaFontaine out of the air like that. Impressive!

Now, my guess for Pat? Pat Sajak. A whole new series of Wheel of Fortune words that are party lines!

6 letters, the clue is soon to be dead dictator...

9 letters, clue is the next country we will occupy...

[BrutalEntropy]

53. wow.

I must say I am really surprised.

Although it is nice to hear common sense (wow... never thought I'd use that phrase in reference to Buchanan) coming from someone not considered on the left of the political spectrum.

[Festivito]

58. To me, this looks like the work of CARL ROVE.

. Makes impeachment talk confusing to the public.
.. is it about what Dems want, or is it about DSM, er, ah, Iraq

. Wrongly characterizes future impeachment talk.
.. hearing about impeachment, one says: oh, that is a bunch of hoo-ey.
... when they don't know there are several reasons for impeachment.

. Says Dems are AGAINST Hispanics.
.. without allowing a single Dem to say a single word.
.. frames the whole debate about what ""DEMS???"" intend.
.. even names which ones

. Embroils and frames Hillary even though she'd say something different.

I SEE SEVERAL RW MOVES IN ONE RELEASE. I SEE ROVE.