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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:30 PM
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CNN Breaking: Reuters says "Hundreds Feared Dead in Biloxi."
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 01:33 PM by VolcanoJen
A Biloxi spokesman now says that hundreds have died in Biloxi, an update to previous numbers, according to Reuters, via CNN.

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Biloxi fears hundreds dead after Katrina 2:12 PM ET

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-08-30T181136Z_01_SCH065511_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-WEATHER-KATRINA-DEATHS-DC.XML

BILOXI, Mississippi (Reuters) - Hundreds may have been killed by Hurricane Katrina in the Mississippi Gulf Coast city of Biloxi after being trapped in their homes when a 30-foot (9 meter) storm surge came ashore, a spokesman for the city said on Tuesday.

"It's going to be in the hundreds," Vincent Creel told Reuters. "Camille was 200, and we're looking at a lot more than that," he said, referring to Hurricane Camille, which hit the area in 1969 and destroyed swaths of Mississippi and Louisiana.

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:30 PM
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1. Just heard it... OMG!!!!
Fuck! :(
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:32 PM
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2. While brush strummed the guitar and ate cake, hundreds of Americans died.
God, I hope there is a special place in hell for brush to meet all those dead.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:33 PM
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4. Nero fiddled. N/M
n/m
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:35 PM
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5. I understand your sentiment but I have to say
I don't want the dead to have to go to hell just to punish that loser.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:37 PM
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7. I think the sentiment is addressing leadership.
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 01:39 PM by VolcanoJen
We're in the middle of a national tragedy of rather epic proportions, and in this time, all Americans crave leadership and example.

They're not getting it.

I think it's appropriate to address that, as the nation watches harrowing video of destruction, rampant looting, dramatic rescues, and mounting casualties that I don't think we expected, or were prepared for.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:45 PM
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9. Oh give the poor guy a break - he had to cut his vacation
short by 2 whole days! :sarcasm: He should've had his butt on AF1 Sunday heading back to D.C.

I hope he catches a ton of flack for his insensitivity on this one. Remember Poppy caught a lot for his indifference during Hurricane Andrew.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:43 PM
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49. The vacation will end TOMORROW.
He will return to Washington tomorrow, according to PBS.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:20 PM
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24. What.? And interrupt a vacation for THAT?
<<We're in the middle of a national tragedy of rather epic proportions, and in this time, all Americans crave leadership and example.<<

:sarcasm: :mad:

Worst display of leadership ever. The man can't even pretend to care.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:19 PM
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52. The devil and God will call for a brief truce so that the dead can
have a pay per view videoconference with the bum sitting on the hot seat from their perches atop the clouds...hey, it'll get ratings in the Inferno and in the Heavens!!! Punishment and justice, all at once!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:53 PM
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15. I tell ya, Boyz, Prezidentin' is HARD WORK! - GWB

by DU's own gatorboy :toast:

larger image...
http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=1
(click on the image)

peace
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:57 PM
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16. Be accurate
It was his vacation from his vacation. He'll be back at the ranch to sleep tonight.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:33 PM
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3. While Bush plays guitar in San Diego...
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:35 PM
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6. first time I've heard the 30' storm surge
more than 200 :sad: this is getting worse by every news account.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:30 PM
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29. Yesterday, Jim Cantore of the Weather Channel talked about being....
...located at a facility 27 feet above sea level. They thought they would be safe from the anticipated 20-25 foot storm surge. The water actually rose high enough to get into the first floor and sweep away all of the cars in the adjacent parking lot.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:38 PM
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8. What a tragedy!
:cry:
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:47 PM
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10. My friends were moving there, and now they won't have jobs to go to I bet
this sucks! They may have even known some of the victims.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:51 PM
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38. One good thing
They hadn't moved there yet, so were not some of the victims in that sense. People won't just not have a home, but no job to go to in many cases.
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rrrevolution Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:47 PM
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11. Sorry to say, but officials are "playing down" extent of damage/lostlife
It does not take an expert to see that we are looking at loss of life that far exceeds what has been reported so far.

Do the math. 80% are thought to have evacuated. 15,000 - 20,000 were in Superdome and shelters. There were tens of thousands that did not make it to a shelter or evacuate.

The loss of life is not over by a long shot. The breach of the levees is the big killer, and so far nothing has been reported that any of the breaches have been repaired or even slowed down. One commentator did say this may be the tip of the iceberg regarding the flooding of Lake water into the city through the broken levees.

CNN just reported that about 1200 had been rescued from rooftops by helicopter. But nothing so far about the others.

Reporters have mentioned seeing bodies but no numbers mentioned.
You can bet they have been instructed not to reveal the full extent of the damage and the danger or there will be no way to control the survivors.
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:48 PM
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12. yes... this will rival 9/11 in deaths
:(
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:52 PM
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14. this will rival 9/11 in deaths"
Yes, and 9/11 could have been avoided.
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:02 PM
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18. I'm not seeing how that is relevent to Katrina...
but I can certainly argue that this disaster could have been seriously toned down if evacuation had occured earlier... as I and some others were arguing for FRIDAY!!!
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:17 PM
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44. But wasn't it a Category 1 on Saturday?
I think most people were taken unaware.
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:20 PM
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45. yes, but by that point it was fairly clear it would be cat 4 or 5
and had a bead on the LA-MS-AL area.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:03 PM
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46. Thanks. Didn't get that on our Norhern Cal news
on Saturday night.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:09 PM
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51. Think McFly, Think!!!!!!
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:33 PM
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22. I'm afraid you're right
News is lagging badly because of the difficulty of travel. I haven't yet read anything about the low-lying towns of the Delta to the south east of New Orleans - the eye of the hurricane passed directly over that area before "coming ashore" early Monday morning. I fear we'll see total destruction and hundreds more dead.

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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:54 PM
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39. One road in
They are saying there is only one main road accessible to Nola at this time. Many of the people they are saving now were people who went back in this morning to survey the damage before they knew about the levee breaches.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:44 PM
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23. Well, most of the time officials "play up" the loss of life...
and destruction. I.E., the Mayor I believe who said "this is our tsunami"...

Give me a break....this compares nothing to the devastation the tsunami caused.

So, what would be their rational for "downplaying" deaths or damage? Politicians love this kind of shit. Perfect photo ops to show "compassion".

Remember on Sept.11 they where talking in numbers of 5000-15,000 possible dead.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:29 PM
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28. probably many still in their homes
is why there haven't been large sightings of bodies. my thoughts and prayers are with them!:-(
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:14 PM
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47. Also, damage reports would distract from bushit's PR efforts
Probably why he's headed back to DC. To try to get all these yucky pictures off the TV.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:50 PM
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13. Beachfront apartments collapsed
which might account for the hight death toll in Biloxi.

So sorry for all the victims. :-(
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:01 PM
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17. how the hell is it that impoverished Cuba can mobilize...
... and actually pull 100,000 people clean out of the path of last year's "Ivan the Terrible", while what passes for "evacuation planning" in our much richer country amounts to little more than some politician on the TV yelling, "head for the hills!"?


That is what I want to know.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:32 PM
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20. I also keep thinking of London: more than a million commute
every day using the Tube. Moving huge amounts of people is possible with the right "tools".
In a way this disaster all comes back to the negatives of an automobile society. :(
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:24 PM
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25. Because, contrary to popular thinking, Castro actually....
...cares about his people.
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underthedome Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:27 PM
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26. except if you oppose him then you go to jail. Now back to the topic. nm
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 03:27 PM by underthedome
nm
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:35 PM
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31. Right. Whatever you say. When's the last time Castro put anyone....
...in jail for opposing him?

And FYI, if you don't like talking about Castro, blame NorthernSpy for bringing his name into the conversation. Better yet, you don't have to respond if you don't like the topic, do you?
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:45 PM
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36. no, please don't "blame NorthernSpy"...
..."for bringing his name into conversation". I never mentioned Fidel Castro.

My point is that Cuba is an example of a poor country that makes a good effort at getting people away from the danger zone when hurricanes are forecast. And I wanted to know why we aren't doing anything comparable, given all of our resources.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:55 PM
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41. August 10, 2005
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 03:55 PM by northzax
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=14652

oh, sorry, she was 'released' as long as she behaves and doesn't keep publishing 'lies about the government'

so I guess it's been a couple of weeks now.

now back to the issue at hand...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:22 PM
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19. fuck nt
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soda Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:33 PM
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21. death toll?
don´t worry the death toll will be hushed up so as not to enrage the people
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porter Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:29 PM
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27. I knew when I saw Haley Barber last night...........
Bush's man in Mississippi and great GOP leader.

He actually looked very shook and had trouble speaking. When I saw him, I knew we'd be hearing something like this.

God Bless the poor victims and their families and I pray that none of the Mississippi and other Gulf Coast National Guard serving in Iraq, instead of serving at home during this national disaster, are hit with news of disaster in their own families. Hasn't everyone suffered too much already?
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:40 PM
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35. I thought all the local politicians looked shocked....
and when they thanked Bush etc they did so through gritted teeth.

It worries me that there is no news from so many areas and seems to be very little set up to help people track down missing relatives.

God help all those poor people, every one.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:49 PM
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37. Thank Bush*???
FOR WHAT???????????? What on earth would they be thanking him for?
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:10 PM
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43. yes-- same reaction here. I thought Barbour was about to cry n/t
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:34 PM
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30. I just saw a flyover over Biloxi
It looks bad. Got a message on the answering machine from BIL who lives above I 10 and he said the house and car are gone but the dog and him are ok. It looked really bad from the copter.....
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:38 PM
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33. Several years ago when my wife and I lived in Mobile, my Dad came....
...down to visit us, and we took him to Biloxi to the casinos.

I just saw footage of the casino we visited where it had been ripped loose from the moorings and deposited on the other side of main road.

Incredible.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:37 PM
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32. TAPS.
Only the saddest song seems appropriate, now.:cry:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:39 PM
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34. I suggested that the numbers would be very, very high
in both Biloxi and New Orleans. We won't have a clue about real numbers before next week.
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soda Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:54 PM
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40. high numbers?
I suggest the numbers will never be known i can see bush saying ¨hell there only poor folk bring ´em on¨
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:59 PM
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42. If the water doesn't recede
If the water doesn't recede quickly in some of those areas, people trapped in their attics with no way to signal for help and no water aren't going to make it long in 90 degree heat.

I just saw the fly overs, it does look just like the tsunami in many places. What a freakin mess.

On a side note look for gas prices to rise and possible rationing. They discussed it on CNBC this morning. The refinery infrastructure there is damaged in a big way.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:21 PM
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48. Shit!!!
This gives me the chills right now.:scared:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:47 PM
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50. It breaks your heart!!! The ocean is taking over the land!!!
Tsunamis and storm surges!!!

Very scary!!!
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