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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:18 PM
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RIOTING, HOSTAGE SITUATION AT NEW ORLEANS PRISON, LOCAL OFFICIAL TELLS ABC



Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

RIOTING, HOSTAGE SITUATION AT NEW ORLEANS PRISON, LOCAL OFFICIAL TELLS ABC NEWS AFFILIATE WBRZ


http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:19 PM
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1. great planning.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:20 PM
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2. anyone for golf?
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 07:36 PM by blue sky at night
hey, I think we can still get in a quick eighteen before the country notices I am derelict in my duty.........



edited to add this wonderful photo of the........thanks huffington blog!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:21 PM
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4. " * " : "Now watch this drive..." n/t
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:25 PM
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8. No but I'd like cake. nt
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:24 PM
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40. I can play guitar. n/t
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:20 PM
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3. oy
No doubt panic-fueled...I mean, if you were in a cell and the water was rising-

What wouldn't you do to get out?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:23 PM
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5. here is brief story, And yes, i saw those pics tonight. Frightening to be
locked in with the water raising inch by inch!!!!!!


Aug. 30, 2005 — Inmates at a prison in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans have rioted, attempted to escape and are now holding hostages, a prison commissioner told ABC News affiliate WBRZ in Baton Rouge, La.

Orleans Parish Prison Commissioner Oliver Thomas reported the incident to WBRZ.



A deputy at Orleans Parish Prison, his wife and their four children have been taken hostage by rioting prisoners after riding out Hurricane Katrina inside the jail building, according to WBRZ.

Officials are expected to hold a press conference regarding the riots at 9 p.m. ET.

A woman interviewed by WBRZ said her son, a deputy at the prison whose family is among the hostages, told her that many of the prisoners have fashioned homemade weapons. Her son had brought his family there hoping they would be safe during the storm.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:24 PM
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6. Well, I sure wouldn't take hostages
Then again, we are talking about criminals, so I guess it's keeping in character.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:24 PM
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7. I do not know what I would do with water raising and i am locked in.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:26 PM
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9. You wouldn't?
It may be logical to think so, but again, this is a panic fueled situation...if I was in a cell, and I saw the water rising...I'd do anything I would if I thought it might get me out.

Rats in a cage and the water is rising.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:35 PM
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13. yeah, hate to admit it--but probably would. yup.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:28 PM
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10. I would not assume that everyone in prision is actually a criminal
too many true stories of people who were proven innocent later.

Peace.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:30 PM
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11. that's true, but...

taking children hostage??

I would imagine that someone who took kids hostage isn't very concerned about protesting their innocence.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:38 PM
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15. My point was: let's not paint with a broad brush
and condemn everyone locked behind bars as a cold criminal.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:02 PM
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21. yeah lets not jump to conclusions that hostage takers are criminals
*head explodes*
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:23 PM
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27. Heh, heh
You beat me to it!
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:52 PM
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36. What a ironic and just plain silly statement.
By the way, every single person who is incarcerated in a correctional facility has in fact been found guilty of committing a crime, and hence has been condemned as a "cold criminal."

While I of course could not dispute that some innocents have been wrongfully convicted, you've been watching far to many hollywood movies! My guess is that you've never been in any correctional facility, or had any other involvement in the penal system.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:22 PM
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39. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING, THIS IS A COUNTY PRISON
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 11:23 PM by happyslug
Which is most Counties in the US is called a "Jail". You do NOT have to be convicted of anything to be sent to jail, you can be sent there to await trial if you can NOT make bail (or bail is denied for various reasons).

For example O.J. Simpson stayed for over a year in the Los Angles County Jail and was Never Convicted of any crime (remember he was ACQUITTED, you may disagree with that Acquittal, but my point here is he was NEVER convicted of ANY crime and yet spent a year in Jail).

Last year a rape victim was jailed in the Butler County Pennsylvania Jail for six days do to failing to post bond. Her employer accused her of stealing from the cash register and making up the story of the rape (The rapist was arrested last month in an unrelated incident and confessed to the rape, confirming details that only the rapist would know forcing the Butler County DA to drop the charges of thief against the Rape victim). My point here is she spent six days in jail for a crime she did not comment AND NEVER WENT TO TRIAL ON.

Generally this is the difference between Jail and Prison, but many counties (and Orleans Parish is one such county) call their Jails "Prisons". My home county of Cambria County does the same (Prison sounds so much more intimidating than "Jail").

Thus my point, while the vast majority of the people in the Orleans Prison are criminals or other law breakers, others are in there who have NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING and may NEVER TO CONVICTED of Anything. To call everyone in a Jail (as this Prison should be called) a criminal is way to broad a brush given the nature of Jails (which is what the Orleans Parish Prison really is).
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:43 PM
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17. I'd take a kid hostage rather than die for a bag of weed
Pot is a felony in LA...lotsa black folks in jail for a bag of weed...
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:34 PM
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12. How about this for an idea?
Amnesty for all those in jail for simple drug possession. That ought to cut the problem by more than half right off the bat.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:35 PM
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14. yeah, that would work.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:45 PM
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19. nah makes too much sense...
The freeper outrage would instigate hostage taking on their part of prisoners families.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:53 PM
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20. Where would they go?
There's nowhere to send those amnestied right now. What, really, is the short term difference between a prison and the Superdome right now?
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:16 PM
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22. Higher ground?
Hope?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:42 PM
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16. WDSU has video of prisoners under armed gaurd on a highway ramp
that is partially submerged. The prison flooded and they had to get them outside and on high ground.
http://www.wdsu.com/video/4907831/detail.html
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:44 PM
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18. Where will the 9 p.m. news conference be shown or
broadcast? Any idea?

Those prisoners need to be told how and when they will be evacuated. It must be terrifying for them.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:22 PM
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23. (ABC News) Official: Prisoners Riot, Take Hostages in New Orleans
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 09:16 PM by Steve_DeShazer
Children Reportedly Among Those Held Captive

Aug. 30, 2005 — Inmates at a prison in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans have rioted, attempted to escape and are now holding hostages, a prison commissioner told ABC News affiliate WBRZ in Baton Rouge, La.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1081633&page=1

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:22 PM
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24. Damn That's Fucked Up
This shit is only gonna get worse. Fuck.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:22 PM
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25. here comes Alcatraz 1946 v2.0 n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:25 PM
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28. More like ATTICA n/t
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:34 PM
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29. I got the impression Alcatraz 1946 was worse than Attica...
And we do have the navy on its way here, just like in 1946, where helicopter traffic may yet be impeded by high winds.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:22 PM
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26. this is really the kind of thing you see in a disaster movie
except it's real this time, i am really scared for everybody down there.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:19 PM
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30. Official: Prisoners Riot, Take Hostages in New Orleans
Link

Aug. 30, 2005 — Inmates at a prison in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans have rioted, attempted to escape and are now holding hostages, a prison commissioner told ABC News affiliate WBRZ in Baton Rouge, La.

Orleans Parish Prison Commissioner Oliver Thomas reported the incident to WBRZ.

A deputy at Orleans Parish Prison, his wife and their four children have been taken hostage by rioting prisoners after riding out Hurricane Katrina inside the jail building, according to WBRZ.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:19 PM
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31. Where is the national guard?
Oh, in Iraq and Afghanistan. I forgot.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:40 PM
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33. exactly.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:19 PM
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32. Worse and worse. n/t
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:45 PM
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34. So Terrible!!!
:cry:
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JustSayNO 2 Sheeples Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:47 PM
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35. "Riot is a RUMOR": ABC
ABC now says the riot story was nothing more than a rumor, according to Ted on Nightline
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:01 PM
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37. BREAKING: New Orleans - prisoners riot, take hostages
"Aug. 30, 2005 — Inmates at a prison in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans have rioted, attempted to escape and are now holding hostages, a prison commissioner told ABC News affiliate WBRZ in Baton Rouge, La.

Orleans Parish Prison Commissioner Oliver Thomas reported the incident to WBRZ.\

A deputy at Orleans Parish Prison, his wife and their four children have been taken hostage by rioting prisoners after riding out Hurricane Katrina inside the jail building, according to WBRZ.

Officials are expected to hold a press conference regarding the riots at 9 p.m. ET.

A woman interviewed by WBRZ said her son, a deputy at the prison whose family is among the hostages, told her that many of the prisoners have fashioned homemade weapons. Her son had brought his family there hoping they would be safe during the storm."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1081633&page=1
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:01 PM
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38. heard this was a rumor
from one of those talking head shows, forget which one.
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