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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:25 PM
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AP: New Orleans Mayor - Maybe 1000s Dead in Katrina.
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 01:30 PM by Hissyspit
Just in on CNN. Anchor said private e-mails and tips from law enforcemt and military officials saying probably even higher toll: "could be a staggering amount of people who have lost their lives," she said.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:26 PM
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1. So that's the closest thing to an estimate I have seen
I think the numbers may we pretty high

:scared:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:28 PM
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4. It was clear the day after that the toll estimates would take a while...
to come and and be tabulated.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:27 PM
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2. That has been my own opinion for the last 24 hours hoping to be wrong.
;(
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:33 PM
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6. Same here.
I think we're going to be facing human losses in the thousands.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:28 PM
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3. It couldn't be otherwise.
I expect there are thousands dead in Mississippi, too.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:32 PM
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5. i have feared (known) this to be the case for days and he is talking just
about New Orleans. The toll in Mississippi will be perhaps worse. I fear 10,000+
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:34 PM
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7. Finally.
We knew it. We were just waiting for them to admit it.

I never want to hear George say 9/11 again. Ever. What happened that day is NOTHING compared to what he allowed to happen to New Orleans. Maybe nothing could have saved Gulfport, but New Orleans should have been able to survive a cat 4 non-direct hit with a 12 foot surge.

After 9/11, most of us still had our homes. Only the people in the immediate downtown area were displaced. We never went hungry a day. We had water. We didn't lose everything.

9/11 was a pinprick next to this. A pinprick.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:44 PM
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10. I agree completely
9/11 was nothing compared to this. 1 million people homeless? A city destroyed? Preventable flooding? I have been physically sick fighting back tears all day. Co-workers store clerks, everyone everywhere acting as if everything is perfectly normal when it's the worst thing ever in our lives. Maybe when the #s come out people will wake up. Not to diminish 9/11 but 2 buildings gone is nothing compared to an entire city. This will be months of recovery just to the basic human survival level. These people are refugees in their own country. All from negligence and incompetence too. I want to go in a coma to escape.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:47 PM
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19. IIRC, you're a New Yorker, so these words mean even more.
Damn good point.

These bastards should burn for how they fucked over NO.

:mad:

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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:35 PM
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8. Creepy! check out this article....
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 01:42 PM by atomic-fly
Creepy! check out this article....


This article was written last year, I think:

Thousands drowned in the murky brew that was soon contaminated by sewage and industrial waste. Thousands more who survived the flood later perished from dehydration and disease as they waited to be rescued. It took two months to pump the city dry, and by then the Big Easy was buried under a blanket of putrid sediment, a million people were homeless, and 50,000 were dead. It was the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States.

When did this calamity happen? It hasn't—yet. But the doomsday scenario is not far-fetched. The Federal Emergency Management Agency lists a hurricane strike on New Orleans as one of the most dire threats to the nation, up there with a large earthquake in California or a terrorist attack on New York City. Even the Red Cross no longer opens hurricane shelters in the city, claiming the risk to its workers is too great.

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:46 PM
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11. wow...sounds like it was just written, doesn' it?
and the number of dead....chilling.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:48 PM
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12. Wow. Welcome to DU, by the way.
Wish it was under more pleasant circumstances.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:07 PM
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16. National Geographic Article on Louisiana coast restoration
I just read the whole article and tried to access the lca.gov link, it didn't work. I'm not shocked.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:41 PM
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9. I'm afraid this is going to turn out much worse than most people imagine..
Its really heartbreaking....

This is going to last a lot longer than Sept11...this cleanup- if it can even be cleaned up is something that I hope will not go away from the amreican consciousness. Past time people woke up & realized we are all in this world together and if we work together & HELP each other, it'll sure make things a lot easier & nicer for just about everybody ( with the exception of those certain greedy few)

I just keep wondering how big of a wake up call does America need???
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:48 PM
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13. Have we reached biblical proportions yet?
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 01:48 PM by DoYouEverWonder
You wouldn't believe some of the arguments I got into yesterday with some of the people on this forum who thought that this event wasn't that big a deal. So many people had no clue that even though the worst of the big winds had past, the fun had just begun.

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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:49 PM
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14. report from the front...
report from the front lines (very little such info getting out btw) this was posted at freeperland, but no reason why everyone shouldn't see it...

Astonishing Exclusive From Mississippi BREAKING NEWS
Paramedic Rescue Operation | 8-31-05

Posted on 08/30/2005 10:10:45 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

It is with heavy heart I write this...

I have finally reconnected with my best friend who is a paramedic who was sent from Georgia 2 days ago to Gulf Port, Mississippi before the hurricane hit.

He just reached me within the last 10 mins via emergency cell phone to tell me he was alive.

Thousands of bodies have been discovered throughout Mississippi in Gulf Port, Waveland,Hancock County,Bay of St.Louis.

They are hanging in trees and they are pulling them out 30 at a time. Entire families found drowned in their homes and washing up on shore.

The stories he could tell me were brief. National Guard is on the scene and arresting anyone seen on the streets.

The numbers are staggering and what I have been told tonight will shake people to their foundation as the numbers will be coming out in the next 24-hours of just how many people have actually perished in these and 3 other beach communities.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:52 PM
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15. I'm worried about those still alive, needing water, maybe medical attn
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 01:55 PM by Eloriel
I wish so much there was a tangible way to help them, but there's not. MONEY isn't going to do it -- not unless I can donate to the Coast Guard or the National Guard (and as you know, we all gave at the office).

This really has been our own tsunami, which is exactly whatI was sensing on the day of the hurricane itself.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:11 PM
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17. In other words....
BenBurch was right.
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Mister Mark Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:44 PM
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18. updated on MSNBC
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:47 PM
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20. OMG, the former surgeon general of the U.S. just said that of the
20% of the population that had stayed in the city, 1/3rd could be dead. What was the total population of New Orleans and area?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:48 PM
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21. iirc, 50,000 were left a million evacuated
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:51 PM
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22. Please, no more posts without links
We don't want LBN looking like General Discussion.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 02:52 PM
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23. No link
Please provide a link from the source of the story.
Please make sure it is the exact page, not just cnn.com
Thank you
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