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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:34 AM
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Bush Katrina Ratings Fall After Speech
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 08:35 AM by Mark E. Smith
Rasmussen Reports 9/18/05

Thirty-five percent (35%) of Americans now say that President Bush has done a good or excellent job responding to Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath. That's down from 39% before his speech in New Orleans.

The latest Rasmussen Reports survey shows that 41% give the President poor marks for handling the crisis, that's up (from) 37% before the speech.

The President's reconstruction plan is favored by 66% of liberal voters. Still, only 10% of liberals give the President a good or excellent rating for handling the crisis.

Following the speech, the President's rating for handling the Katrina crisis fell eight points among Republicans (from 71% good or excellent to 63%).

http://rasmussenreports.com/2005/Katrina_September%2018.htm

Looks like the only thing Bush is triangulating is the top of his little pointed noggin.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:35 AM
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1. As they should
Sometimes even the BushCo Propaganda machine fails
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:37 AM
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2. Bwahahahahahaha
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:20 PM
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58. I knew this would happen!
Except I only predicted a 2-point drop. Hahahahahahaaaa!

:rofl:

Especially great that most of the drop was among Pukes. Although, on our side you can't go any farther down than zero.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:35 PM
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62. may I join you?
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ShrewdLiberal Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:45 AM
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105. Hahahahahahaha!
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:37 AM
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3. That's down from 39% before his speech in New Orleans.
The Engine Room is flooding...prepare to abandon ship.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:39 AM
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7. and the band played on
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:21 AM
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35. Very scary picture!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:31 PM
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86. this is going to hurt the children in more than just the usual ways.
children that age who see their parents in despair, frightened and unable to protect them will never forget that and they will never be able to feel safe and secure again.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:55 PM
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87. And the sad thing is - the children you describe are the lucky ones.
There are, what? Sixteen THOUSAND displaced kids who are in shelters WITHOUT their parent(s) or guardians or grammas or aunties or anyone they know. Some are young enough that they don't know their own last names to tell their rescuers or shelterers, so they're even more difficult to identify and try to place. Imagine what kind of scarring this will leave on them for life. OY...
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:38 AM
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4. Yeah
in his fever to get back the moderates he lost (who were horrified at katrina) he jumped the money shark and lost the fiscal conversatives.

Rove is slipping.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:00 PM
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55. True. The moderates are gone and won't likely be wooed back
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 02:01 PM by calimary
by a lot of nice-sounding slick talk.

Liberals and their sympathizers are lost, already. Long gone. And they already have his number so they know better and won't be fooled.

Conservatives are probably now feeling betrayed because here comes more "big government spending." Never mind that, for once in these past four-and-a-half miserable, miserly years, it's finally being spent to help those in need. No wonder they're having seizures. They see THEIR agenda (to help no one but the rich and big corporations who supposedly need more "tax relief") betrayed and compromised.

Well, boo-fucking-hoo. Take a number.

Looks like bush is between a rock and a hard place. Or maybe, soon enough, it'll be Iraq and a hard place. Good place for him. I hope he's stuck there.

Until he's IMPEACHED AND REMOVED, that is. Maybe it WILL be the conservatives who kick him overboard for being a turncoat and a traitor to their cause. Poetic justice, that would be. Not to mention sweet and VERY MUCH deserved.

Keep that visualizing going, guys... followed by a little action...
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:02 AM
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98. From what I can tell, local Repubs are jumping ship.
Did you see Baker on with Watts and Nadler on C-Span? And the Gov. of VA? They were pissing and moaning about the Federal intention not to allow local contract bids. Think a few of the Repub constituents are pissed off at not being given a shot at some of the rebuilding monies pouring forth?
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:38 AM
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5. I think from here on out
the only thing that will keep his ratings from dropping further is if he resigns or just disappears.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 04:54 PM
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69. I've been saying for a while, his handlers' best move would be:
break his jaw, blame it on a "liberal activist." Garners him sympathy and keeps his mouth shut. Two for one.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:39 AM
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6. Butter my butt and call me a biscuit
This seems to follow a pattern. Every time Nero opens his mouth, his approval ratings drop. Love it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:42 AM
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8. Presidents are given credit for recovery--so I expect his ratings to go up
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:42 AM
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9. At this point he could only raise his approval rating
by resigning. Let's see a 100% Bush approval rating!!!
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sweettater Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:45 AM
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31. Butter my butt and call me a biscuit
You made me smile. I haven't done enough smiling lately. Thanks, biscuit. :*
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:20 AM
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42. I had to laugh out loud at that too... Thanks
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:36 PM
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63. me three!!!!
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:43 AM
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10. Seriously, though: WTF? How did that happen?
I really don't understand how he didn't get a little bump. I want to see other polls to confirm this.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:58 AM
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19. He's playing up the "Compassionate Conservatives", but he's also
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 09:01 AM by 54anickel
talking about that compassion costing REAL money this time, rather than it being just lip service to "soothe the liberal beast" so to speak. Repugs don't like his "welfare state" idea, and it sounds too much like a "new" New Deal to them.

And to think this was Rove's idea, from an earlier article I read here - I'll try to find it.

Edit - here it is

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1788583

Bush’s key aide ‘missed’ Katrina

snip>

Once his condition improved it was Rove who urged the president to open his chequebook for the stricken city, against the advice of White House economists, and spend $200 billion (£111 billion) to rebuild it “higher and better”, as Bush went on to promise.

Although many Republicans are horrified by the cost, Rove is determined to revive Bush’s dormant image as a compassionate conservative, the theme of his first presidential campaign in 2000, and will be overseeing the reconstruction effort.

Bill Kristol, editor of the neo-conservative Weekly Standard, said Rove’s absence had made a significant difference after the hurricane hit. “He was out of commission for 24-36 hours and he’s indispensable. It’s a thin White House and it’s not a good thing that the government could become paralysed for a day,” Kristol said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1785729,00.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:23 PM
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52. Yup. Republicans believe the word.
He says he's going to give all that money to minorities, they believe that makes it true. So they reject him.

We, however, know he doesn't mean a word of it. All of the money is going to his crooked cronies with a few nicely planted front minorities. So we aren't buying either.

Poor George.


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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:54 AM
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38. Cuz The Nutjobs Got Mad About The Speech!!
I saw it on FR....They hate NOLA and don't like any govm't $$ spent on anything but wars, bombs etc....

They don't want to spend any money on "somewhere that's under sea level" etc..

they hated that he had to admit there was such thing as poverty and racism, they think the people they saw on TV lived in Welfare Palaces and already had too much from the government. He managed to piss off the basest of his sick "base" without gaining any from the disillusioned because they were soooo fed up before the speech.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 12:55 PM
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49. I did too! I think the drop is from the hard core Republicans, the very
idea of helping the poor ( especially black ) by giving them a ton of money goes way beyond the pale for Conservative Compassionate Republicans. This is blasphemy!
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:43 AM
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11. The speech sought to stem
the end of the declining ratings. It takes time, especially in a misleading news environment like ours for the reaction to fully manifest. Attempts to divert it have been fruitless and even counter productive, badly misjudging the timing of the speech at at the least a final bottoming out. Politicians should take note how incompetent and overrated Bush's political moves have always been, the shoddy charade at New Orleans being just the latest garish example.

What was missing was MSM talented propping, dazed by the buffoonery they have had to cover for or take seriously and off point.

He has no skill for the the charade job and less enthusiasm. It is for this the treasonous MSM has justly lost its own overrrated credibility. And they can't shake off the collar.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:45 AM
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12. Shutting the lights back off on his way out didn't help, either! n/t
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:47 AM
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13. Americans vote their pocketbooks
The economy is tanking. Leave the SUV in the garage with the 500 a month payments, we can't use it anymore.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:57 AM
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18. You got that right
Long after people forget New Orleans, and move on to the latest stupid newstainment story, they will be reminded every month, when they get the car note for the car that is too costly to drive, when they turn the heat down to 60 degrees in winter and STILL cannot afford the bill, when the light bill is so bad that they are running two bulbs and paying three times what they paid before...

All politics is local, and you do not get any more local than your own doggone wallet! That chumpy three hundred dollar tax cut ain't cutting it.

To paraphrase their god Reagan: Are you better off than you were five years ago????
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:49 AM
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14. If these poll results are matched by the White House's polls, especially
the results among republicans, Bush soon will be throwing some serious red meat to the republican base.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #14
20. Serious red meat coming - Owen rather than Gonzales for USSC
Sales tax push, end of environmental laws, etc.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:06 AM
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23. Owens will be filibustered by the Democrats.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:52 AM
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15. This is astonishing
as I expected a slight bump in polls after his speech. If this is proven out in other major polls Chimpy is toast and Tweety will once again have egg on his face :D
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ChowChowChow Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:56 AM
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17. I am looking forward to that
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #15
48. Remember, Bush is the rare modern day president who did not...
get a polling 'bump' from his State of the Union speech. That's very unusual and is what happened to him despite the most prestigious of speech settings.

So, if the House of Rep. doesn't do the trick, I guess we shouldn't be surprised that 'Disneyland' didn't do it either.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #48
78. Maybe because he's the rare modern day president who did not actually
get elected!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #78
95. And speaking of Al Gore, my husband
wants to put an AG bumper sticker on his car. He still has a new one from 2000 but will cut out Lieberman. He said it wouldn't necessarily be to endorse him for the future but more a reminder of what could have been. I think it is a great idea. What do you think?
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #95
102. Good idea!
I hope he does it. Maybe it will catch on.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:54 AM
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16. This is why the Fuckhead is going to the region AGAIN on Tuesday
The Bush bastard will keep on going, until his poll numbers shift upward. He should be told to stay away, and let the people get on with the clean-up. Everytime he goes EVERYTHING has to come to a COMPLETE halt because His Imperial Chimpness is gracing the place.

He's becoming a TOTAL nuisance.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #16
21. There is danger in that
We saw what happened to Cheney....they'll have to carefully screen any dusky people they allow near him, and if just one goes off script, he will bring more shit down on his head than he already has.

I swear, I always thought that Presidents worked in a place called the WHITE HOUSE. At a desk, giving ORDERS, making DECISIONS of the highest order. The fact that he is once again proposing to go wandering around NOLA, still seemingly trying to get a sense of the scope of the problem, is troubling. Had he watched the fucking news every now and again he'd be up to speed, but no, I guess that is too hard for him (HARD WORK, settin' and concentratin' on that screen, ah reckon).
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #21
33. you have hit the nail on the head - President as Tourist-in-Chief
What a brilliant assessment
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #21
53. Did you hear that Dan Bartlett had to make a compilation DVD
For Junior, so Junior could see what was happening in the Crescent City...just ANOTHER example that Junior actually ISN'T the *resident.

I'm praying that all of this propagandist photo-op shit is going to blow up in his ugly Monkey face...big time, as Night of The Living Dead Cheney would say.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #53
64. Who remembers when they were a little kid???
When your parents would turn on the "nightly news" and all of the youngsters would groan, loudly, because you really wanted to see cartoons, or a game show??? And there was only one TV in the house???

Porgie is STILL that small child who would rather watch cartoons...so long as it isn't Tinky Winky or Spongebob, I guess, 'cuz that would be WRONG....

Yeah, I heard about the DVD. He is a far cry from the last Texas President, who had THREE FUCKING TVs in the Oval Office, turned on all the time, all day, BEFORE the 24 hour news cycle even existed...just IN CASE any breaking news happened.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #64
80. That's a photograph of a real President
And yes, Junior's just like a 4 year-old trapped in the body of a 59 year-old. He's emotionally retarded, petty, pathetic excuse for a human being, never mind a *resident.

I've noticed LBJ's desk in that photograph. Whenever you see photograph's of Junior in the Oval Office, I've noticed his desk is either completely bare or next to completely bare. Further proof that he doesn't do ANY damn work at all.

Of course, if there was a PROPER media they'd ask him:

"Hey, who are you kidding? You're not the REAL *resident. You're just a little mouthbreathing puppet, so who cares what YOU think. Cheney's the REAL *resident."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:57 PM
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81. See those massive machines to the side???
Those are the AP and UPI wires, direct feed as transmitted to news outlets, straight to the OVAL OFFICE, no filters through the staff at all...that was LBJ's HEADLINE NEWS of the day.

Working man, working office....what a concept!!!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #81
97. Thanks, MADem.
I was wondering what those were. Couldn't recognize them.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #16
24. More photo ops for the gilded cheerleader
Plutocrats and have mores, circle the wagons!
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #16
27. But, hey!
Look on the bright side.

Maybe they'll be able to restore electricity for a couple of hours again. :banghead: x(
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #16
43. Plus the loss of all of the energy...
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 11:31 AM by KevinJ
...needed to drive the jumbo stagelights for his shows. Okay, entertainment is one thing, but isn't it more important that they save lives than put on rock concerts?
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #43
57. He's a disgusting monster, it's ALL about HIM every time isn't it? n/t
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:14 PM
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72. I think he's checking up on Trent Lott's new place....
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #72
82. Trent will probably poison his lemonade
He has no love for the monkey, at all, after the way he was hung out to dry. And he has plenty of time on his hands, it would not surprise me at all if he is behind this closet revolt of the GOP of late....
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #72
89. Welcome to DU!
Glad you're here... to help us give him the HEAVE-HO!!!

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!
Then go DO something about it.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #16
96. He's going again?
Again? What for this time?
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:59 AM
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103. Let him keep bumping his gums.....
We know how successful his stump speeches were at getting his Social Security program passed:sarcasm:
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:04 AM
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22. The Speech
Laid out extravagant plans that will take billions of tax payer dollars to fund and conservatives are pissed over that. 'Compassionate' conservatives slammed on the breaks after the reality of how much the reconstruction..et..al, was gonna cost. They dont want the gov't using THEIR money for free 'handouts'. Thus, his rating plummeted.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #22
90. Perhaps they fear he's turning "librul" or something. Welcome to DU!
Glad to have you with us! We NEED you!

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!
Then DO something to make it happen.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:10 AM
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25. 63% of pukes still think he did a good job..
there is still so much more work to be done.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:54 AM
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45. That's why they're rightly called "pukes", "Repukes", "Rethugs", etc.
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Mich Otter Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:14 AM
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26. Bush-it
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 09:14 AM by Mich Otter
Those of us who are Democrat/Liberal/Progressive/Socialist are not fooled by Bush's words. His deeds over the years show him to be incapable of caring for anyone worth less than several million dollars. Whatever plans Bush puts into place will primarily enrich his contributors and supporters.
The Republican/Neo-Con/Conservative bunch in America have no interest in seeing government funding that would benefit the poor.
Bush is not going to win any points with either side.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:27 AM
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28. His ratings are falling faster than
a drunk on a mountainbike.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:59 AM
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32. snicker. n/t
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:42 AM
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36. Bush is a drunk on a mountain bike!
:rofl:
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:28 AM
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29. Maybe they are seeing the similarities between
NOLA and Iraq. And I think that a lot of people are seriously thinking that this 200B will just line the pockets of his "friends".

Unless he replaces Rove with someone like Jimmy Carter and calls for a truly independent investigation, I don't see how he can recover--although I have been seriously wrong before about the stupidity of a great swath of people who call themselves amerikans.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:40 AM
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30. He's going back on Tuesday?
Sheesh! What's the cost so far for these trips, alone? He doesn't accomplish a darned thing, except disrupt the cleanup/search operation and use up precious gas.

Suppose he'll wear a T-shirt with a crew neck and no buttons?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:04 PM
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83. Fuel alone can go as high as $88K
depending on the number of support aircraft they bring along....
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:12 PM
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92. When did he ever care about how much he used up for his own
purposes/vanity/manipulation/greed?

Welcome, again, BTW!
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 12:07 PM
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46. I was hoping for something more to the gut
like realizing that there are a lot of civilians in Iraq who have been displaced just like the citizens of the Gulf coast. Like Iraq, we now have innocent Americans whose lives have been torn apart, who have been separated from family and friends and those who have lost everything. As the "sleeping Americans" begin to look at the rising death tolls - in both the Gulf coast and Iraq, they wonder where the NG and its equipment were and whether this pResident has made this country safer. All the other questions like cronyism and pocket-lining contracts come out of people wondering how something like this could happen in our own backyard and to other Americans.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:11 PM
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91. He's done enough to raise the suspicions of ANY political group.
Welcome to DU, BTW.

Help us in OUR Noble Cause - one with which Cindy Sheehan might even agree.

For the sake of our country, and the lives that are at risk if this asshole stays in power for another three years -

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!!!
Then, follow up with a little action.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:18 AM
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34. LMAO
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Everything he touches turns to excrement.

How does it feel, Mr. Popular President?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:44 AM
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37. Makes sense. Dems don't buy him, Repugs don't like the ideas
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:56 AM
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39. Has Shrub hit his "trifecta" yet???
:spray:
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:10 AM
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40. I would say so
Three major losses on American soil under Bush's watch:

1. The World Trade Center

2. Clinton's surplus

3. The city of New Orleans
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:29 PM
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59. Also....
Our freedom.
The ability of our military to defend us.
Our credibility as a nation.
Our middle class...

Way beyond a trifecta. :-(
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:46 PM
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67. Indeed....
He's fucked it up far worse than even we could have imagined.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:19 AM
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41. Guess they didn't go for the "Disneyland Castle" look.....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:43 PM
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75. Nope - the "Haunted Mansion" is the moniker for this one.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:49 PM
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77. Isn't Disney some homo lover to be boycotted by right thinkin' uns?
Next time, try another look.
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:35 AM
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44. Bush's rating from Republicans fell 8 points because
He hinted that the racism and poverty is a problem in America
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 12:21 PM
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47. That 35% would support him no matter what.
He could eat a baby on the WH lawn, and they'd find a way to justify it. He's now bottomed out.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:53 PM
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54. Nah.
I think that within the next year, a good ten pecent of them will break. that 25 will probably support him.. no matter... what..
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:12 PM
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50. The "LBJ effect". Next he should hold up a dog by the ears...
that should endear him again to his base.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:58 AM
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101. Or show us his scars
The pretzel scar...the segway scar...the "I-ran-into-a-British-policeman" scar...

(Those of you old enough will remember LBJ displaying his gall bladder surgery(?) scar to the camera.)
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:20 PM
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51. It has been called "The Pie-Hole Effect". IOW every time he opens his ...


pie hole his numbers drop. I don't know whether americans just don't like the way he talks, or what he says, but it has been documented for several years. IIRC every time he speaks in public his polls drop.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:15 PM
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93. Evidently enough of his listeners/viewers recognize a wolf in sheep's
clothing when they hear/see one.

They've already seen too much of his track record to think he's "reformed" and seen the wisdom of using government wealth and power and activism actually to help people in need. And his pals on the far-wrong are upset because THEY prefer seeing the government's wealth and power and activism directed at helping people who have no needs - and throwing our weight around and bullying people in other countries - need or not.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:27 AM
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100. Actually, they realize he's a sheep in wolf's clothing....
:eyes:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:08 PM
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56. Even I wasn't expecting that!
I said he'd "hold steady."

:rofl:

Well, that's an AWESOME way to start my Sunday.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:33 PM
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60. it's the curse of the haunted mansion!
some old guys at a gas station up the road told dubya the old place was haunted and to stay away from it, but he didn't listen
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:33 PM
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61. Yep, I thought they would.
As I said prior to his speech, every time he makes a public address his numbers drop.

I think people create an image of him that's less ignorant than he really is, it's how they manage to validate their vote for the twit. When they see him making a speech they realize that's just their fantasy of their leader and the reality of what he is slaps them upside their heads.

I do so wish he'd do more televised speeches...
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:41 PM
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65. It's hard work being a dumbass....n/t
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Callisto Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:46 PM
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66. Republicans are screaming
and still quite pissed. They control everything, yet they never shut up with the whining- when we get back in power, be ready for the likes of witch hunts never before seen....
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:18 PM
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94. Welcome to DU, Callisto!
Isn't it funny how they own it all and STILL they're whining and moaning and woe-is-me'ing? What on EARTH do they have to complain about? Where HAVEN'T they had their way?

Where I come from, that's called "spoiled brats" and "snot-noses." And this from the bunch who boasted that "the adults are back in charge."
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:59 PM
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68. It just proves that folks are starting to pay attention!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:29 PM
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70. It was so frickin heartfelt, wasn't it? I so hoped the teleprompter would
break which would have left * hanging there for all to see!
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:01 PM
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71. FEMA blocked evacuation aid and relief aid in New Orleans: Summary
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:30 PM
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73. LMAO!!! Oops Rove oops!
Bush is going down in flames. I would have never guessed it would take a Hurricane to expose the ignorance and corruption of this administration.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:36 PM
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74. How low can you go!!!
Of course, a dog is most dangerous when he's cornered.

I wonder when the other shoe will drop.

I just won't believe anything good can come out of this yet.

LIHOP is pretty strong right now for another "distraction".
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:47 PM
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76. But, but, but...the lighting was so very good! I don't get it!

The president will be positioned at a podium set up in the grass in the square, with a statute of Andrew Jackson astride his horse and St. Louis Cathedral in the background. Bobby DeServi and Scott Sforza were on hand as we drove up about 8 p.m. or so EDT handling last-minute details of the stagecraft. Bush will be lit with warm tungsten lighting, but the statue and cathedral will be illuminated with much brighter, brighter lights, along nothing like the candlepower that DeServi and Sforza used on Sept. 11, 2002, to light up the Statue of Liberty for Bush's speech in New York Harbor. Here's a quote from DeServi on the lit up cathedral: "Oh, it's heated up. It's going to print loud.''
wonkette.com link...
http://tinyurl.com/98oys
The site of Bush's speech was notably antiseptic and isolated, given the mayhem all along the Gulf coast. Fallen trees had been cut down, and scores of bags of leaves and branches were piled outside the 154-year-old, cast-iron fence that surrounds the square. The government brought in a truck-mounted generator, and Hollywood-style lighting. In the afternoon, fresh liners were put in trash cans. By dusk, soldiers from the 82nd Airborne had been deployed to keep regular citizens several blocks back.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1105812,00.html
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:08 PM
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85. I have to admit, when I saw him slink out behind that statue of Jackson on
the horse, an old ditty my dad learned in WW2 came to mind;

Every evening after dark
We goose the statues in the park
If Jackson's horse can take it
Why can't you?

The original version had Sherman, but the tune ran through my head the entire time he was speaking, misbuttoned shirt and all~!
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:14 PM
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111. Not to mention,
(but I will) they used generators to turn on the power for the speech and then cast everything back into darkness at the conclusion. Says it all, eh?
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yankeefanatic3 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:31 PM
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79. It's quite understandable!
Most Americans don't see the connection on why tax cuts for the wealthy should be number one priority over helping the victims.

Most Americans want to know how Bush is going to pay for this "bold" initative----People don't want their schools to get cut because of it. People want the rich to pay their fair share!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:05 PM
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84. I've been listening to his Base and they were angry!!!
they can't say its Bush's fault so they say its Government's fault!!!

Unfortunately its the REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT!!! They are in such a quandry!!!!!!

I smiled last night when I heard them crabbing about it!!!
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:05 PM
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88. newspeak
you have people on the right that also don't trust this government. With Bush called for more power, I believe that some of those people see his administration as a threat. Can you say dictatorship!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:18 AM
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99. It's a real crying shame his rating is going down the tubes
( MY CAT IS CRYING HIS EYES OUT TOO)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:34 AM
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104. Aw hell, just wanted to kick this, so it could be savored some more.
:D
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BSDRebel Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:52 AM
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106. hey, what's the deal with Fitzgerald?
When's he gonna lay the smackdown on the Plame case and make them smell what the FitzgeRock is cookin'? :)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:06 PM
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109. Welcome to DU!
Glad you're here - to help us GET RID OF THIS BASTARD!!!!!!!!

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!!
Then call a republi-CON in the House of Reps, TOLL FREE, and plant the seed. Even if they don't want to hear it.

1 (877) 762 - 8762
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BSDRebel Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:07 PM
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110. i will and thanks!
good to be here!
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:54 AM
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107. Amazing how they didn't say "65% of American disapprove of Bush's...
job performance after Hurricane Katrina". Instead, they tried to use a positive way of approaching it. But anyway..I'm thrilled that it's down. :rofl:
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:01 PM
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108. Maybe he could take it on the road...
kinda like Social Security.
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