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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 08:18 PM
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US Troops Kill Civilians
Edited on Sat Oct-25-03 08:19 PM by loudnclear
Sunday 26 October 2003, 4:03 Makka Time, 1:03 GMT

US chopper burns after an RPG attack - one soldier was injured
Related: US forces hit hard in Iraq

Five Iraqis have been killed and several civilians seriously injured by US troops on a day of resistance attacks that left around 20 occupation soldiers wounded.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E6CBA295-F813-4520-BF68-F268999512F0.htm
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:12 PM
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1. I read that and was hoping you would post it.
thanks
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 09:57 PM
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2. And things are supposed to be getting better?
Edited on Sat Oct-25-03 10:03 PM by teryang
The average number of daily attacks has doubled.

Total coalition dead over 400, American wounded closing in on 2000.

The increasing number of casualties viewed in light of the recent Iraqi poll portends a grim future for Americans in Iraq.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 10:23 PM
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3. I think it's getting worse fairly quickly.
Starting to see tactical changes, more elaborate attacks, some
of the arms used are changing, or the mode of employment is more
sophisticated.

And the fellows supposed to be running the show seem focused
on the idea it's primarily a public relations issue. Its really
much too late and too fucked up to expect to get by on that alone.

I can smell logisitics issues but facts are not to be had.
It would help a lot in evaluating the situation if one had straight
facts on the resupply situation with respect to various critical
items, but that information will not be bandied about. I would
wager, however, that a fairly large portion of that $87B is just to
buy stuff as fast as it can be turned out.

Still, experience would suggest that they will remain in denial as
long as possible. The point at which withdrawal occurs is just
shortly before one will be kicked out if one does not.

I wonder at what point, if ever, it will dawn on them that they are
not smarter than the fellows fighting against them?

Meanwhile, I expect a lot of old hands in Russia are having a drink
or two and enjoying the show.

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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:23 AM
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4. Summer's over
My guess is that Iraqis couldn't fight in that heat, either. So, a combination of more time to regroup and gather strength plus the letup in the heat has resulted in the ability of attackers to coordinate more effective assaults.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:31 AM
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5. daily dead and wounded
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

snip


10/25/03 MSNBC: Several wounded in Iraq hotel blast
The Baghdad hotel at which U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz was staying was evacuated ...Wolfowitz unharmed.

10/25/03 BBC:Explosion near Baghdad hotel
There has been a series of explosions near a hotel in Baghdad, where a top American official has been staying.

10/25/03 Reuters: 3 civilians killed in Iraq attack
Three civilians have been killed and two wounded after their vehicles hit a roadside bomb and came under fire on an Iraqi highway

10/25/03 Yahoo: Roadside Bomb Wounds Three in Baghdad
A roadside bomb exploded as a U.S. patrol was passing in Baghdad at dawn on Saturday, wounding three soldiers, a U.S. officer said.

10/25/03 AP: Director of police assassinated
Director of police in major southern Iraqi city assassinated outside mosque

10/25/03 BBC: U.S. helicopter goes down near Tikrit
A US Army helicopter has crashed near the town of Tikrit in Iraq and burst into flames...Five soldiers were injured

10/24/03 Centcom:2 soldiers killed and four wounded
SAMARRA, Iraq – Two 4th Infantry Division soldiers were killed and four were wounded during a mortar attack at a forward operating base near the northern city of Samarra just before 12 p.m. Oct. 24.

10/24/03 AJC: Summary of Latest Attacks
Mortar attack kills U.S. soldier, wounds 13 others

10/24/03 Centcom: Soldier killed in small arms fire attack
One 101st Airborne Division soldier was killed in a small arms fire attack in western Mosul

10/23/03 E&P: Press Underreports Wounded in Iraq
The media has always treated combat deaths as the most reliable measure of battlefield progress, while for its part the administration has been reluctant to divulge the full number of wounded.

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