GOP Senator Links Indictment, Resignation

[callady]

GOP Senator Links Indictment, Resignation


Sunday October 23, 2005 11:31 PM

AP Photo WX104

WASHINGTON (AP) - A Republican senator said Sunday that it would be appropriate for any White House aide to step aside if indicted in the CIA leak investigation.

President Bush was urged by a Senate Democrat to make clear whether a White House adviser under indictment would remain on the job.The grand jury that has investigated the disclosure of CIA officer Valerie Plame's identity for the past two years is set to expire on Friday.

Top presidential political adviser Karl Rove and Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis ``Scooter'' Libby, have emerged as central figures in the probe because they had contacts with reporters who learned Plame's identity or disclosed it in news stories.

Asked whether Rove or Libby should step down in the event of an indictment, Sen. George Allen, R-Va., said: ``I think they should step down. I do think that's appropriate ... if they're in the midst of an indictment.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5364653,00.html

[NanceGreggs]

1. "They should step down ...

if they're in the midst of an indictment."

DUHHHH!!!!

[roguevalley]

2. Judy Miller said this in a newsweek article:

Hours after Keller's memo hit IN boxes, the paper ran a column by op-ed star Maureen Dowd calling Miller a "woman of mass destruction." The next day, a column by public editor Byron Calame detailed the frustration of editors who'd worked with Miller. "These are the things you say to your girlfriend when you want her to break up with you," said one reporter who asked not to be identified because he did not want to speak for the Times. But Miller is, for now at least, standing firm. Late last week she told NEWSWEEK she had every intention of returning to work. She also did some digging of her own. "Are you hearing anything about Fitzgerald?" she asked, before quickly hanging up.

What the hell does THAT mean? Is she stupid enough to tilt with Fitz? I hope so. May she boil in her own oil, the incompetent ferret.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9787693/site/newsweek/

[nankerphelge]

4. Why hasn't she been booted out on her ass yet?

I will never read the New York Times again.

[JoFerret]

8. ...and miss Frank Rich?

...and some excellent on-the-ground Iraq coverage (see today for a terrific article) not to mention the always entertaining Maureen Dowd?
Get real. Perhaps it might be better to say thgat you will always apply your finely tuned crap detector to the NYTimes (as intelligent people do to every news source.)

Isn't it time we stopped played the poor jilted bride to the infidelities/ failures of the NYTimes?

[depakid]

11. Dunno- I won't read the Washington Post

because it lacks any credibility- it's basically a Fox/CNN type source these days. It purposefully slants its copy and publishes false statements of fact- or quotes others who do without any challenge.

The times is quickly falling to that level. If I want to find Krugman or Rich, there are other places to look.

[hippiegranny]

41. where?

I've been looking for a free source to read them - MoDo too.

[Neil Lisst]

12. Amen. What happened to being informed?

I have never understood any thinking person who said they were no longer going to read or watch some media. I don't have to agree with it to read it. I watch Fox News, I read the Washington Times, the New York Post, and Drudge. I read them because I want to know what the right is up to, what their party line is.

I read everything, and the NY Times is simply part of my information base. As newspapers go, it's far better than most. I don't expect media to think what I think, say what I say. I expect each media rep to be biased in some fashion.

[niallmac]

14. ...and the crossword puzzles. Don't forget them!

[brentspeak]

9. The NYTimes won't return to being a solid newspaper

unless Sulzberger,Jr. is removed from all responsibility. He's the publisher only because his dad and granddad built the paper, but he himself is a total dummy.

[nankerphelge]

3. However...

if they're a speaker of the house under indictment, they should superficially give up their leadership position and stay on. Also, they should try to look as much like a maniac as possible in their mugshot.

[cantstandbush]

5. They must know there will be no indictments or he wouldn't have said this.

I hope I am wrong. I pray that all the real evildoers will be exposed and expelled.

[ret5hd]

6. bwahahahaha...oh stop it...

you're KILLIN' me! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[meganmonkey]

16. Even the shrub himself said that if anyone in the WH did something illegal

they would be expected to resign. Doesn't mean he'll say it again, or follow up on it.

They have to say these things right now but that certainly doesn't mean they'll actually do them later, 'when the charges are baseless! trumped up! politicized!' blah blah blah...

:shrug:

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. Allen is the second coming of Reagan, according to Limbaugh

[PurityOfEssence]

10. That must be the first non-stupid thing George Allen's ever said

Truly, this is the season for firsts...

[Cassandra]

13. You took the words...

right out of my keyboard. :-)

[Metta]

15. So they can lie, swindle and kill anyone as long as they aren't indicted.

They're all going to hell, even George Allen.

[LibDemAlways]

17. George Allen must think the end game is

near for the Bush Crime Family if he's on record as saying that those indicted should step down. As a loyal repuke who's faithfully towed the party line and is thinking about an 08 run for the WH, he's sticking his neck out awfully far. The BFEE has a long memory and they don't take kindly to disloyalty.

[Va Lefty]

18. George Allen should step down...

He's a fucking embarrassment to Virginians!

[DrDan]

39. acccording to Sean InSanity,

the guy walks on water - and will be the 08 candidate

[struggle4progress]

19. ... White House officials have refused to say whether President ..

.. George W. Bush would allow someone who's been indicted in the matter to stay on the job ...
GOP Senator: Any Indicted Bush Aides Should Resign
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/5155544/detail.html

[Pirate Smile]

20. WP: Resignations May Follow Charges

Resignations May Follow Charges
Senators Discuss Leak Case

By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, October 24, 2005; Page A03

Sen. George Allen (R-Va.) said yesterday that he expects White House officials will step down if they are indicted this week but stressed that speculation should cease until special counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald announces the results of his investigation into the leak of the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame.

Asked yesterday about two figures who are considered central to Fitzgerald's inquiry -- Karl Rove, White House deputy chief of staff and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff -- Allen said, "I think they will step down if they're indicted." But, he added during an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press," "Let's see what happens rather than get into all this speculation and so forth."

-snip-
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.), appearing on the same program, said people should wait, but if there were an indictment, she hoped it would be for "a crime and not some perjury technicality where they couldn't indict on the crime."

-snip-
He (Former attorney general Richard Thornburgh) also challenged the idea that an indictment for less than the original crime was not important. "If there is false testimony given or there's an attempt to corrupt any of the witnesses or evidence that is presented to the grand jury, that's a very serious offense because it undermines the integrity of the whole rule of law and investigatory process."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/23/AR2005102300926.html

[BOSSHOG]

21. There should be no resignations

If the President of the United States had any integrity he would fire them immediately and let the wheels of justice roll.

As I said, IF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAD ANY INTEGRITY.

[rsmith6621]

22. Exactly.....

Well Put Boss.

[senseandsensibility]

27. You're coming in loud and clear

and since he doesn't, he won't.

[spindrifter]

30. Maybe it's a matter of guts

[goforit]

36. Ya have go to be kidding, "Fire them"?He'll hand em the medal of honor

[tularetom]

23. I agree w/ Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison

I hope its for a crime too. My hope is that it's for a capital offense like treason. What's yours Kay Bailey?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

26. Oh, lord

There are TWO of you?

[senseandsensibility]

29. LOL

Yeah, none of this piddly perjury stuff! I'm with Kay! It's capital offenses or nothing! In their strident, desperate efforts to defend their master, these shills make no sense whatsoever.

[spindrifter]

31. I think under the

circumstances of this case, lying about what happened and who did it would be only slightly less serious than outing Plame.

[aquart]

24. Rule of law! Rule of law! Rule of law!

Stick that in the Republican craw!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

25. Perjury is just a "technicality"????

Well, if that doesn't just go and fuck all.

Those lying bastard Jesuits at my law school told me it was a crime. And a serious one, at that.

I've seen juries convict and judges sentence people to prison for perjury, and now I find out that it's only a "technicality"????

If that doesn't just go and fuck all............

[KC21304]

32. But Ms Bailey Hutchison 1999 felt a little differently.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/12/senate.statements/hutchison.html

[OldLeftieLawyer]

33. Oh, beautiful

The hypocritcal shrew has snakes in her head.

I'm thinking of a bad, bad word to describe this babe. It's a bad, bad word.

I must go now and wash my mind out with soap.

Thanks for that, thanks very much.

Rub-a-dub-dub.

[Zen Democrat]

34. Remember she was indicted on ethic charges by Ronnie Earle, too.

The judge disallowed the main evidence against her, Earle tried to withdraw the case, but the judge wouldn't allow it and acquitted her from the bench. Earle opened his evidence to the media after Hutchison shot off her mouth that he didn't have a case -- and it was found that she, indeed, had used her staff for personal business -- including having them pick up her dry cleaning. She's skank.

[Maat]

38. Thanks for the post, OLL!

My thoughts exactly!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

42. Hey...........

How's my favorite law student these days?

[Maat]

45. Well, thanks. Hanging in there - waiting for Cal-Bar-Exam results.

Due in about 4-5 weeks.

Whatever happens, I'll live.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

47. That waiting

was worse than any part of law school for me. And, when the news came, it got so garbled - thanks to the Washington Post - that it became a comedy of errors that I, somehow, didn't find funny for about twenty years.

There's nothing I can say except that this is why drugs are our friends.

I'm pulling for ya, kid ...................

[Maat]

48. That means a whole lot to me!

Take care, and keep on speaking up in that special way that you do!

[Straight Shooter]

28. I'll settle for perjury.

After all, perjury by its definition means you're a liar. Not just a liar, but someone who lies under oath. You know that little oath, "Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?"

They got Al Capone for tax evasion, even though he was guilty of far more serious crimes, but they got him nonetheless. I'd love to see WaPo run pics of Rove and Libby and Cheney with the headline, "Ladies and gents, we got them!"

If Allen thinks we're going to stop speculating, he's dreaming. That's like telling people to stop thinking of sex. :)

[fooj]

35. The Culture of Corruption is not immune to THE RULE OF LAW!

Period.

Peace.

[lovuian]

37. WHY DID IT TAKE INDICTMENTS TO GET THESE TRAITORS

OUT WHEN BUSH KNEW TWO YEARS AGO!!! This President has failed to DO HIS FRICKIN JOB!!!

[Eurobabe]

40. And that Repube would be...George Allen, who wants to run in 08?

This guy is a moron.

[zann725]

43. Being indicted means they're already "down.." To step down is redundant.

n/t

[Kralizec]

44. And this is exactly why Delay should step down from his duties as a

Congressman, at least until the trial is over. If he is acquitted, so be it (not really that would piss the hell outta me), then he can return to work. But he shouldn't be an acting Congressman while his is being tried.

Peace.

[peterh]

46. I’m all for “unindicted co-conspirators" stepping aside also…

Then calling for new elections….well, I can dream anyway…