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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 04:53 PM
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Army attacks Iraq wedding (Court Martial Of Two US Soldiers - Herald Sun)
<snip>

TWO US soldiers who marched down the aisle with Iraqi brides are to face a court martial.

"They've been formally charged with disobeying an order - no fraternising with the Iraqi people," said Vicki McKee, mother of one of the soldiers.
Her son, Sergeant Sean Blackwell, 27, married a English-speaking Iraqi physician, 25, in August.

They exchanged vows during a double ceremony with Blackwell's friend Corporal Brett Dagen, 37, and another Iraqi doctor in her mid 20s.

Both women had been working with US troops.

"How could they go to Iraq and not be friendly and fraternise?" Mrs McKee told the New York Post.

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Link: http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,7735454%5E663,00.html

:wtf:


'Dammit boys, this is a war zone, we can't have love breaking out here. It's a threat to the peace!!!'

MY... FUCKING... GOD... Are we really THAT fucked up???

:grr::nuke::mad::puke:
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michaelbmoore Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 04:58 PM
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1. Gentlemen!
You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:07 PM
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4. LOL !!! - I Was Thinking The EXACT Same Thing !!!
And - BTW- How Ironic??? From Dr. 'Strangelove'...



:shrug:
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PapaClay Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:04 PM
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2. Yes, we really are
that Fucked Up!

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Fraternization within the military is also forbidden. Especially between officer and enlisted. BUT, once a couple is married, there generally are no further charges of fraternization. Transfers and career-killing evaluations, yes. Formal charges, not usually.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:05 PM
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3. All's fair...
in love and war. Or so they say.

Blackwell added that a sergeant major who opposed the marriage told him "Muslims and Christians just don't jive together".

The sergeant major's comments are what I think are the most fucked up.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:11 PM
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7. Yup !!!
That is a perfect rationale for us not being over there. Too fucked up in the head.

'It's Not a crusade I tell you! We just want to go over into the Middle East and bring Christianit... er. I mean, democracy! Dammit!'

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:09 PM
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5. But that's the catch. It's catch 22:
No fraternising, unless you're married. So, you can't get to know someone unless you marry them. Anyway, I say make love, not war.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:11 PM
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6. Wonder what's going to happen to those women...
when we pull out with our tail between our legs and they're stuck without visas because they're "terrorists." What did the liberated french do with the nazi sympathizers?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 07:39 PM
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17. Sean's mom's first mistake was asking a repuke congressman to intervene.
He's not going to risk the wrath of his bigoted repuke supporters by helping to bring Sean's wife to the US.

I would suggest that she go to Bob Graham.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:20 PM
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8. Love conquers all.
At least, I hope so for these folks!

Screw the "non-fraternisation" rule! BTW, "both women had been working with US troops."

American troops overseas have been marrying locals during wartime for eons! Remember, WWII, Korea, Vietnam...etc., etc.?

Congratulations to these these newlyweds...I hope they live happily ever-after!

:party:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:24 PM
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10. Thank You !!! *ding, ding ding...* Right On !!!
:bounce::toast::bounce:

I thought part of going to war college, er... military school, was reading books on History. Guess not.

:shrug:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:23 PM
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9. Ah, yes. Ain't love grand
Edited on Sat Nov-01-03 05:26 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2003/10/26/the_children_they_left_behind/

The Children They Left Behind

Three decades after the Vietnam War, new grass-roots efforts are underway to reunite thousands of Amerasians with their GI fathers in the United States. But indifference, corruption, and government red tape stand in the way.


When Clint Haines last scoured the highlands of central Vietnam, he was part of a US Army "hunter-killer" team, an airborne cavalry unit that swept low over the treetops, drawing fire from an invisible enemy and calling in strikes on hidden encampments. Thirty-two years on, Haines has returned to his old battlefield with the same stomach-churning, heart-pounding thrill of mission he felt every morning he boarded his helicopter in 1971. Only this time, Haines is not hunting for Viet Cong -- he is searching for the child he fathered and has never known.

Haines long ago traded his jungle camouflage for a baseball cap and chinos, and his waistline has bloated from three decades of fast food and hard knocks in a succession of jobs and marriages. His weapons retired, he is armed for this mission with a dreamy black-and-white photo of a Vietnamese woman with cascading hair and movie-star looks: 20-year-old Nguyen Lieu, his first love, the pregnant fiancee he left behind when his request to extend his tour was denied. Haines, then 19, promised to return for her and marry. They had one exchange of letters, via another GI, but then the intermediary was sent home and Haines and Lieu lost touch. The war raged on, Lieu's village fell to the North, and going back was impossible.

"It was a terrible goodbye. My intention was to finish my tour in the service and go back and get her," Haines, now living in Oregon, says ruefully. "The paperwork to get married before I left was horrendous; I didn't even try. I was young, I was dumb. What did I know? I got one letter, wrote back and included a $100 money order for her in the name of that GI. I never heard back. I wonder if she ever got it. I never even found out if our baby was a boy or a girl."

Haines is one of a small but growing number of Vietnam veterans who, after years of battling postwar demons, are finally trying to come to terms with their nagging consciences -- and with the children they left behind. Despite a US law committed to bringing "home" all children of Vietnam War relationships, thousands of half-American children are estimated to have never made it out. Branded "bastards of the enemy" in the country of their mothers, they are all but forgotten now in the country of their fathers. snip

NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY CHILDREN were born in Vietnam to GIs, US government employees, and civilian contractors during the war, but estimates run as high as 50,000. In 1969, at the height of US involvement, there were 541,000 US servicemen in Vietnam, most with easy access to local female companionship. Operation Babylift in the final days of the war brought 2,000 orphans to the United States, some of them Amerasians, but tens of thousands were left behind.

more

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:25 PM
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11. Perhaps it is the fact that the soldiers converted to Islam
in order to marry the Iraqi women. That's why they are being singled out! They gave up Jesus for the love of a woman!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:30 PM
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12. Oh, I Think Jesus Would Be Just Alright With That...
"Christians" on the other hand... LOL!!!

Ironic ain't it??? Jesus's best bud was a hooker. I've always admired that about the dude.

Peace! :hippie:

:hi:

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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 05:52 PM
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13. you can drop bombs on weddings and ..
shoot em up, but you can't be in one ....

nothing happened to anyone, (I believe), in the incident
in Afghanistan were they bombed the wedding or the one
in Iraq where the troops shot it up because they heard
gun fire...
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 06:52 PM
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14. Ah, new love story, a new movie, lots of tears
and Hollywood will make mega bucks off this tear jerker.

Love will always win. Hollywood will always make big bucks. And folks will love it! Except for a few hard core right wingers.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 07:24 PM
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15. True, but this film would be infinitely more interesting than...
...the Jessica Lynch rescue movie.
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 07:30 PM
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16. 3rd story this week about soldiers facing charges
What's up with that? I can't remeber a single story of this type before now.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 07:46 PM
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18. touching...
I hope they all have happy unions. The woman pictured in the article is stunning.
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Peregrine Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 11:24 PM
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19. The problem
The problem that I see in this is that they got married while they were on patrol. If I was their commanding officer I would nail their asses for dereliction of duty.
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