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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:06 PM
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Protesters Demonstrate At Soldier's Funeral (Phelps, NOT anti-war)
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 04:13 PM by Barrett808
Protesters Demonstrate At Soldier's Funeral
Christopher Alcozer Was Killed Earlier This Month

(CBS) NORTHLAKE, Ill. Anti-war protestors are demonstrating this morning outside the funeral for a solider from the western suburbs killed in Iraq.

Army Private Christopher Alcozer was killed in an attack on his patrol north of Mosul earlier this month.

Friends and family gathered at a church in Northlake to honor his memory.

The 21-year-old from Villa Park was home on leave this fall and was recently engaged to his high school sweetheart before returning to Iraq.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_333122432.html


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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:08 PM
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1. It's got to be Phelps and friends
Why is there no detail about these "anti-war" protesters? This is bullshit.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:11 PM
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4. I agree with you
Nobody on our side would be that stupid.

By the way, how the hell does Rev. Phelps recruit these people with all the anti-military, God hates america crap? Especially in Kansas? I swear they are all aliens or something.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:14 PM
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8. Yep, Only Swiftboat liars and Fred Hater would do this.
Intersting to see how the media reports on this after doing absolutely nothing when they dishonored America´s Veterans at the Rethuglican Convention.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:17 PM
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11. Large family
very large family and a few aliens in addition.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:58 PM
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35. Phelps' "church"
is, for the most part, just his extended family. No real recruiting.
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Milspec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:49 PM
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41. While in no way advocating violence...
I think that one day Phelps dependence on his lawyer family to sue anyone that causes him trouble is not going to stop a 9mm in the ear.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:05 PM
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42. Someone has to slap him around
sooner or later. I can't believe it hasn't happened yet.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:11 PM
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2. Suspicious that there's no details.
Gotta love that liberal media. :eyes:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:11 PM
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3. It IS Phelp's crew -
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:13 PM
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5. Good find...
To bad you had to go on that awful website to get the info. How stupid is this reporter to label them "anti-war" That station should be embarrassed.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:14 PM
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9. You beat me to it!
I went to that awful place for nothing! (spit spit choke and gag}
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:15 PM
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10. At what point in Reverend Phelps' ministry
does he actually start ministering?
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:19 PM
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13. This flyer is terrible! Check it out.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:20 PM
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15. I just called and spoke with their news department and their web
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 04:20 PM by ET Awful
department and gave all pertinent information.

Call them at Main Number: 312-202-2222
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:32 PM
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23. Thanks
this is repulsive. They need to hear from all of us.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:27 PM
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20. What a bunch of sick individuals. Protesting at a soldiers funeral
is not protesting the war. It's just plain disgusting behavior.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:30 PM
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21. Phelps crew isn't protesting war, they're cheering death.
It's their specialty. Well that and picketing grade-school plays that they believe support gay rights.

They have nothing to do with anything anti-war. They believe that soldiers who die in Iraq are being killed by God for fighting for a country full of "fag enablers" (their term not mine).
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:13 PM
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6. It was Phelps.
I just checked their site EWWWWWWWWWW

They were there. Perhaps we should enlighten this paper?
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:44 PM
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27. "Perhaps we should enlighten this paper?"
fwiw, I did

hopefully, others will, too

http://cbs2chicago.com/contact

didn't know which "Message Category" (aka click to select recipient) to choose from in the drop-down window - went with cbs2chigago.com

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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:13 PM
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7. If they really are anti-war protesters,
they're damnably stupid.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:18 PM
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12. That story doesn't even warrant ink. There's no source, no
writer, no details. :wtf: I think it sucks they even printed it, slamming anti-war protesters in the process w/o any facts. What would be the object of their protests?
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:23 PM
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17. I agree---I read it,shrugged my shoulders and said "Where's the beef?"
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:19 PM
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14. time to educate this news outlet, isn't it?
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 04:19 PM by xchrom
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:22 PM
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16. Call them here
Main Number: 312-202-2222
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:38 PM
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25. thank you.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:24 PM
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18. I sent them an e-mail. Link:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:34 PM
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24. thank you -- sent them an e-mail.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #14
22. Emailed them
Whether it will do any good or not remains to be seen, but it felt good to get it off my chest. Just told them that perhaps they should get facts straight when reporting on things like this. Phelps' group is all about hatred and nothing more.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:26 PM
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19. I just sent an email to cbs2chicago
Polite but informative re: actual peace groups vs. Fred Phelps hatemongers. Jesus, what a glaring error- to equate anti war with venomous lunatic. I am disgusted.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:44 PM
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26. They just emailed me back
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 04:49 PM by Bluzmann57
They stated that there was some anti war group from NW Indiana there but also were investigating the Phelps group being there as well. They said the story at the website has been changed "to remove any description of the protestors" until they can investigate the story further. I guess we shall see. It's a good feeling that one man at a computer can indeed make a small dent in the media.
On edit- They did indeed change the story to say "anti war and anti gay groups". Good for them.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:48 PM
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28. I haven't heard back yet
But good that they are doing something to gather facts. They are not The Onion, after all! Folks in the news biz should not get away with making it up as they go along!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:49 PM
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29. They're lying through their teeth. I also received that reply from them.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 04:50 PM by ET Awful
I just looked at the group's website:

This is their schedule of events: http://exitiraq.org/events.htm

Mr. Gay is either poorly informed or lying.

Here is the response I sent to them after receiving that gem trying to shift the blame:

"I would think that if they were to attend, the group you mention would have it on their website. They do not. Their entire schedule can be found here: http://exitiraq.org/events.htm

However, Fred Phelps who is well known for such activity does have it on his site. See here: http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html and here: http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/nov2005/20051127_christopher-alcozer-funeral.pdf

He has flyers available for download from his site advertising the appearance.

It appears to me that what you have isn't reliable information. In fact, I would venture a guess that it was provided by a pro-war group in an attempt to discredit the anti-war movement.

I would think it would be in the interest of honest and accurate journalism if you were to verify who attended before you run an article rather than after. Real journalism consists of verifying facts before you publish them.

Thank you."
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:50 PM
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30. The story now says anti-war and anti-gay groups were protesting
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 04:50 PM by jseankil
(CBS) NORTHLAKE, Ill. Anti-war and anti-gay groups demonstrated this morning outside the funeral for a solider from the western suburbs killed in Iraq.


http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_333122432.html
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:51 PM
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31. They just changed it. But there is NO STORY there, just a much of
sentences. WHO WHAT WHEN WHERE and WHY have to be answered to be a 'story'.

CBS) NORTHLAKE, Ill. Anti-war and anti-gay groups demonstrated this morning outside the funeral for a solider from the western suburbs killed in Iraq.

Army Private Christopher Alcozer was killed in an attack on his patrol north of Mosul earlier this month.

Friends and family gathered at a church in Northlake to honor his memory.

The 21-year-old from Villa Park was home on leave this fall and was recently engaged to his high school sweetheart before returning to Iraq.


(© MMV, CBS Broadcasting, Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_333122432.html
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:52 PM
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32. The online story has now been updated...POORLY: Look at the
first line of text..."anti-gay AND anti-war groups".... I find it very difficult to believe there is an 'anti-war group' at a soldier's funeral. This news organization still doesn't get it.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:53 PM
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33. So not only are they lying (as evidenced by my posts above), but
they have a crappy editor who doesn't require spell-check to be run on articles prior to posting.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:57 PM
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34. You are so right!
These people are obnoxious. Anti war AND anti gay. So much for "fixing" while they gather their facts.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:26 PM
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36. Why does Phelps hate America so much?
oh, right, it's only us wild-eyed lefty pinkos who do... :sarcasm:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:35 PM
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37. Now I've received another e-mail from them . . .
We have just gotten off the phone with the organizer of "The Northwest Indiana Coalition Against The War" and confirms his group attended the funeral. While he confirmed he saw protestors there, they were not from his group because his group does not protest.

Thanks to you, we have updated our story to include the fact that an anti-gay group was at the event, but it does not make our previous story incorrect that an anti-war group was at the event, since there was.


Did he even read his original article?

The original article said they were DEMONSTRATING. Not that they attended.

I should contact his supervisor.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:39 PM
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38. Thanks for pursuing this. n/t
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:43 PM
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39. These slimeballs just really pissed me off with this one.
When they try to equate legitimate anti-war groups with Fred Phelps, they've crossed the fucking line.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:09 PM
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43. Well, they haven't changed the story online. Still the second one.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:48 PM
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40. There hasn't yet been any anti-war group seen protesting a soldier's
funeral (I say that without verification because it HAS to be true)..attend one, perhaps.. but I cannot fathom anyone protesting (except Phelps, of course).
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 06:15 PM
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44. Phelps has SATANIC zipcode!
It's a conspiracy, I tell 'ya! Phelps' church o' hate in Topeka Kansas has the zipcode of SATAN's neighbor: 66604!

Oh the humanity!!!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 07:16 PM
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45. LTTE the editor about this
>_<
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 07:27 PM
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46. Anybody notify the American Legion?
I remember something about them wanting to stomp a mudhole in all these "anti-war" protestors . . . here's some for them to stomp a mudhole into . . .

Oh, I guess that they're okay, since they're not "lefties" . . .
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:40 AM
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47. perhaps we should contact exitiraq and see if they were there?
http://exitiraq.org/events.htm

i'm going to try to send these folks an e-mail and see what they say.
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astroBspacedog Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:34 PM
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48. Why would this jerk, --
protest gays at a solders funeral? Was the solder (who was engaged to his high school sweetheart) rumored to be gay? It wouldn't surprise me because Phelps tried to put a plaque in a Boise city park stating that "Matthew Shepard is Burning in Hell". ( Matthew Shepard was a gay victim of a fatal hate crime in Laramie, Wyoming) He(Phelps) claimed had has a right to do so because the Boise park already had a plaque with The Ten Commandments inscribed. Then the Boise City Counsel voted to have The Ten commandments moved to private property.
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