Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Muslim Troops' Loyalty a Delicate Question

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:58 AM
Original message
Muslim Troops' Loyalty a Delicate Question
Military's Religious Tolerance May Have Aided Infiltrators, Led to Complacency

Just after the 1991 Persian Gulf War against Iraq, huge tents were erected in Saudi Arabia near the barracks of U.S. military personnel. Inside, day and night, Saudi imams sent by their government lectured the GIs about Islam and made aggressive pitches to convert them.

Saudi officials had promised that the discussions would touch only on Arab culture. But within months, about 1,000 soldiers, and perhaps as many as 3,000, converted to Islam -- the largest surge of Muslims ever into the U.S. armed forces.

(snip)

Even so, Eberhart said, "there's no doubt in my mind there's an effort to turn our people." Some in the military might be exploitable by terrorists or demagogues because, like other people, they "have sympathies for other causes or nations," he said.

"I'm concerned, and I know others are concerned" that foreign extremists might have engineered the security breaches at Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. Navy detention facility in Cuba where about 660 alleged al Qaeda and Taliban fighters are held, he said.

Military sociologist Charles Moskos is traveling to Iraq this month to poll troops about morale issues. He plans to ask whether Muslim soldiers seem to have their hearts in fighting fellow Muslims, and whether the troops trust Muslims in their ranks.

more…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A50998-2003Nov1?language=printer
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:09 AM
Response to Original message
1. This article is B.S. IMHO
"Despite these concerns, U.S. officials say they have seen almost no evidence of hesitancy, much less disloyalty, among the 5,000 to 10,000 Muslims in uniform, and believe only a tiny number would ever be vulnerable to manipulation by foreign extremists. "

To my knowledge the biggest "disloyal" traitors we've ever had were non-Muslim Caucasians...i.e. Jonathan Pollard and Robert Hanssen and other folks who sold secrets to other nations.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. There is a whiff of fascism in the air, as Gus Hall used to say
This article reeks of red scare and McCarthyism. Are Muslims serving in the armed forces going to be rounded up as the Nisei were during WWII?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:20 AM
Response to Original message
3. Again the WP establishes itself as a pillar
of clear thinking :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. I am sure that Tom Friedman will be writing a column about this
another chance for him to spill his racist bile.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:18 AM
Response to Original message
5. Muslim chaplain's arrest prompts U.S. probe
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A military and intelligence investigation into possible security breaches at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, is under way following the arrest of a U.S. Army Islamic chaplain, Bush administration sources said.

<cut>

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/09/22/chaplain.arrest/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:31 AM
Response to Original message
6. Oh yes, "religious tolerance aids infiltrators"
A chaplain from Houston assigned to the Army V Corps support unit in Iraq is now the focus of an Army inquiry for his practice of offering soldiers a dip into his 500-gallon pool if they agree to be baptized.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/special/iraq/1856956
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:56 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. The problem
with this article is common sense. The US military is (thank goodness) forbidden to try to convert anyone in Arabia. The administration (rarely the brightest bird in the flock) needs to tell the Saudis to back off! Every service member going overseas is briefed on the country's culture and certain no-nos anyway. So just brief them. A simple reminder that military personal are subject to the host country's laws. Show them how fingers, hands, penis' are cut offf and except for Darwin's rejects things will go smoothly. If someone wants to convert, so what? since when does America tell anyone what religion to practice or not to practice?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:44 AM
Response to Original message
8. If we would stay the hell out of other people's country we wouldn't have
this to worry about!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Tell it to the Native Americans, please.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Apr 20th 2024, 09:05 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC