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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:28 AM
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Iraqi handover to be speeded up..(BBC)......(we're gonna bail)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3233601.stm

Iraqi handover to be speeded up


US deaths in post-war Iraq are greater than during the conflict
The chief US administrator in Iraq has said he wants to accelerate the handover of authority to Iraqis. Paul Bremer told a news conference in Baghdad his aim was to give Iraqis a "path and a timeline" for the transfer of power from the US-led coalition.

He also promised to speed up the training of Iraqi soldiers and police to respond to ongoing attacks. Mr Bremer said he believed Saddam Hussein was alive in Iraq, and catching or killing him was a "top priority".


There has been an increase in the number of attacks on US-led troops in Iraq recently but Mr Bremer said he had no clear indication that the ousted Iraqi leader was behind them. In the latest incident, two American soldiers were killed and two others wounded in an explosion in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul. A crude bomb or landmine exploded by the side of a road as a US military convoy was passing.

Saturday morning's attack came exactly six months after US President George W Bush declared major hostilities to be over. In his weekly radio address on Saturday, Mr Bush said the US was determined to "complete our work in Iraq" despite the attacks. "Leaving Iraq prematurely would only embolden the terrorists and increase the danger to America," he added.

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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:32 AM
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1. they've been saying this for months now
first it was Jay Garner that was supposed to turn things over to Chalabi within 6 months. Now Bremer claims similar things to try and head off the growing Iraqi impatience with the occupation.

The occupation forces won't peacefully turn anything over to Iraqis until they've sold off Iraqi property and resources to Western corporations and completely forced on their neocolonial economic model and agenda (one step taken already with the regressive flat tax already imposed), and could then guarantee that such an imposed model would be maintained by a properly quisling "democratic" (Florida-style) regime.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:31 AM
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14. Beyond That, My Friend
Turning matters over to a "puppet army" will only further the chaos it is being billed as a preventative to.

Particularly in a hurried recruitment, any such force will be shot through with supporters of the resistance, who will use it as a source of intelligence and arms. Its pay will be poor in compare to the danger, and so many members will come to cooperate with the resistance as a source of income, and for safety, whatever their political inclination. It will have no loyalty whatever to its foreign employers, and so even those who do not cooperate will not be reliable in battle against the resistance.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:34 AM
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2. Yep, the homecoming parades will begin within weeks...
The troops will be welcomed home as triumphant victors of the "just" war. The cabal is hoping the American sheeple will have a short memory just in time for the 04 election.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:10 AM
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5. Right on and then Bush lover will be saying......
He never said we would stay or we did for 2 weeks. You know the route like the one he said their was no WMD. Blind love for a nutcase.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 06:49 AM
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3. It's the sELECTION they are worried about
...IF PRESIDENCIES are destined to crumble, the cracks tend to appear first in the Granite State, where independents flock to one party's primary or another to presage the attitude--and anger--that centrist "swing voters" will express nationwide months later. Bush remains personally well liked in New Hampshire and nationally. According to the newest NEWSWEEK Poll, his job-approval rating is holding at 51 percent. But the human and financial costs of the war--symbolized by death-a-day news reports and the $ 87 billion funding request--have made Dean a power in the state, and are beginning to worry administration insiders. "If we don't get Iraq right in time," fretted one National Security Council official, "we could lose the election." ...

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:14 AM
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6. You got that right!
KKKARL pumped up the counrty with the wartalk right before the election in 2002! Look how much Bush has been able to shit on the country at will, since the Repubs took the Senate! The whole thing in Iraq is to keep Bush's Image pumped up! All those people killed on both sides in Iraq died so Bush could continue to plunder and destroy America after 04! It's a hell of a cost, but it's a hell of a prize this "New World Order"!
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:34 AM
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8. Bush doesn't fret...
...troops get cut to ribbons.

If how well the junta does in Iraq is central to his election chances- he doesn't have a chance.

But that isn't true. One issue is whether the propaganda/censorship of Iraq news by the Pentagon is successful. Another is how the American lackey media decide to treat the prospect of four more years of looting and pillaging by Bush Inc. At a certain point the masters behind the scenes, the corporate giants have to make a decision.

CNN on Iraq censorship by DOD this morning: Pictures are not allowed; soldiers are not allowed to talk; film is confiscated.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:05 AM
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4. the administration is chasing it's own tail! we've never seen this level
of confusion in any previous presidency. they are in a state of constant panic. i guess those prayer meetings aren't solving everything.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:24 AM
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7. We'll never be able to leave..................
never. If the U.S. were to hand everthing over to the Iraqi's there would be anarchy within a month's time. The entire country would revert back to tribal, warlord rule (as in Afghanistan) and everything will be for naught. The U.S. will need a military presence in Iraq forever. This is the singular factor that Bush and PNAC refuse to believe. These people are really not capable (or willing) of governing themselves within the framework of a Democracy. It'll never happen. The MOST Democratic countries in the area are far from the ideal Democracy that the Bush administration has proposed in Iraq. And they expect this entire transformation to take place well before the 2004 elections? It's a fool's paradise in Washington at the moment.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:37 AM
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11. Not true. Can work with UN to keep peace.
I believe most countries in the U.N. would be willing to send peace-keeping troops into Iraq to rebuild if only the U.S. were to give up a certain amount of control. Bush wants that oil for himself, so like the dumb monkey who gets his hand caught in the jar, he refuses to let go of the banana.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:35 AM
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12. Awesome analogy
Also, he will be presiding over a military and political blunder of large dimensions. Few regimes survive that.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:00 AM
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13. That's garbage. Iraq has been a thriving civilization for milleniae
It is totally paternalistic for you to think that they cannot take care of themselves without us. WE are the reason there is strife their now. We need to leave immediately and let the UN help them restructure themselves. All illegal contracts made by the US should be ended immediately and the US companies should all be thrown out. The international community will be more than happy to help Iraq if the US is not there thieving and murdering.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:41 AM
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9. Next September?
Doesn't sound like anytime too soon.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 07:58 AM
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10. Don't get your hopes up.
This is all part of election year politics. Make it appear that there is going to be a pull out and maybe even bring some troops home but they aren't going to give up the oil.
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