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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:36 PM
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Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Tower
http://www.sundayherald.com/37707">Sunday Herald
Were they part of a massive spy ring which shadowed the 9/11 hijackers and knew that al-Qaeda planned a devastating terrorist attack on the USA? Neil Mackay investigates

THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.

Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.

Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.

their discovery and arrest? this is the first i've heard about them. or have i just been sleeping at the switch?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:41 PM
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1. Hmm...
More for the conspiracy-minded at:

http://www.wtc7.net
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:43 PM
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2. Found these interesting sites
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 01:44 PM by Angel_O_Peace
First I've heard of "Five Israelis" as well, but I do remember hearing about a white van and men with maps. So did a search, and found many links, but this one is a good read:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

and found this Sept. 12, 2001 article:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Mysteries3.html

Five men detained as suspected conspirators

By PAULO LIMA

Staff Writer

ABOUT eight hours after terrorists struck Manhattan's tallest skyscrapers, police in Bergen County detained five men who they said were found carrying maps linking them to the blasts.

The five men, who were in a van stopped on Route 3 in East Rutherford around 4:30 p.m., were being questioned by police but had not been charged with any crime late Tuesday. The Bergen County Police bomb squad X-rayed packages found inside the van but did not find any explosives, authorities said.

However, sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot.

"There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted," the source said. "It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park."

more...

PS: The original link to the LBN story doesn't seem to be working, and did a search for that headline, and no luck. Is there another link to this LBN story?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:44 PM
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3. how many repostings of this lie - the arrest is true - nothing else
N/t
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:44 PM
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4. They could have been arrested...
because they looked Arab. Who knows how exxagerated the report was in order to defend their racism?

Btw, link doesn't work.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:45 PM
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5. There have been
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 01:46 PM by Maple
a lot of strange stories about 'art students' from Israel filming in various govt buildings, including restricted areas and being thrown out.

There is still an odd story about armed Israelis entering the Mexican parliament that has never been cleared up.

All of this came out post 911 but got lost in the ensuing news blizzard.

Edited for workable link:

http://www.sundayherald.com/37707
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:48 PM
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6. The world is not a pretty place...
To all apologists....

The fact was they were waiting for it..and taping it...this incident of the Israelis being arrested in Jersey has nothing to do with consiparcy theory.

Sane Americans who put America first...will never forget.

Someone knew something...and that is the fact...


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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:51 PM
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8. America first?
No, I don't put America first - I put humanity first.

I guess I'm not sane then, either...
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:49 PM
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7. What about the film! Who has that?
:bounce: I wouldn't be surprised about anything at this point

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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:52 PM
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9. Here's an article from ABC news
The White Van
Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?

June 21 — Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:52 PM
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10. Not LBN... locking
This is an analysis piece and does not qualify for posting in the Latest Breaking News Forum.

Please feel free to begin a new discussion about this story in the General Discussion or 9/11, Military Affairs and Terrorism Forum.

If you have a link about the specific arrests, and if the story is less than 12 hours old, you may post that in the Latest Breaking News Forum.

Thanks,
VolcanoJen
DU Moderator
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:52 PM
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11. Not an urban myth. ABC News: Were Israelis Detained on Sept 11 Spies?
When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned.

One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.

...

Since their arrest, plenty of speculation has swirled about the case, and what the five men were doing that morning. Eventually, The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.

Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities' interest in the case was heightened when some of the men's names were found in a search of a national intelligence database.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html
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