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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:40 AM
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DeLay: Iraq pullout a 'death warrant'
Houston - Former US house majority leader Tom DeLay told a group of soldiers that withdrawing troops from Iraq now would be "a death warrant for Americans in future terrorist attacks."

"Our choice is not between different visions of victory but between victory and surrender. Only one choice is worth the legacy of the United States and the heroes she has lost in this conflict. Victory is our choice."

Republican Representative Jean Schmidt of Ohio added fuel to the fire when she said on the House floor that she had a message for Murtha from a Marine: "Cowards cut and run, Marines never do." The comment caused an uproar, and other Democrats have since echoed Murtha's concerns.

On Saturday, DeLay said talk of troop withdrawal by Democrats, whom he described as the "cut and run caucus," was the wrong thing to do.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1845062,00.html
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:43 AM
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1. He is trying to cut and run from his crimes

by getting the best Republican judge money can buy.

What a crook!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:14 PM
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21. LOL!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:44 AM
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2. yeah because he's always right
:sarcasm:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:14 PM
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36. A Death Warrant for Corporate Greed
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:47 AM
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3. It sounds like Hitler's ravings in the bunker in 1945
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 01:47 AM by daleo
"Our choice is not between different visions of victory but between victory and surrender...Victory is our choice."

On edit - A toast, with a nice glass of Victory Gin.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:53 AM
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4. Delay is trying to deflect from his crimes & W's lies on the war
How pathetic.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:54 AM
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5. He's right (as in correct, not right-wing)
it would definitely be a death warrant to the Republican leadership!

:headbang:
rocknation
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:55 AM
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6. Yeah, it's a death warrant for DeLay's GOP machine.
War and its' products are the life's blood of the Republican Party. End war, and the GOP will itself, perish.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:58 AM
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7. That is profound. Thank you
The only thing W or the GOP has going for it is W's war.

What would be the platform if the war didn't exist?
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:01 AM
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9. No Gay Marrage?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:58 AM
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16. Murtha voted for that stuff. That's why he was "in" with the generals
He funded all those missiles, jet planes, spy satellites and useless Star Wars crap.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:00 AM
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8. If we stay, it's the Soldiers'/ Marines'/ Airmen's/Seamen's death warrant.
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 02:01 AM by TroubleMan
Fucking chickenhawk Delay....You go and pick up a rifle if you're so fucking gung ho!

The reality is that the longer we stay in Iraq, the more vulnerable we become, the more people we persuade to join Al Qaeda, the more resources we spend on this unwinnalble situation instead of protecting people at home.

I shouldn't get so upset over this asshole, but spewing propaganda to our troops just to get them to throw their lives away for his political benefit...it's just gets to me.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:25 AM
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17. I'm with you on that
Who is this little chickenshit? -Georgie Sr s(asked about Paul Wellstone in the senate)

Who is this crooked little chickenhawk and why should anyone listen to him? Maybe he should strap up and take his bug zappers over there. Please leave the rest of us Americans alone.
:patriot:
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:13 AM
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10. There won't be any victory until the Iraqi's
get control of their own oil. As it is now, we are allowing halliburton and the oil companies to loot that country blind, with our national treasury as the capitol. Then they reap the profits and Dick Chaney's stock options multiply. Everyone has been rooked by this administration. Especially the people. The Military is only over there to protect haliburton:they build pipelines and roads. This administrations doesn't give a crap about reconstructing the infrastructure of Iraqi cities and towns, it's building oil infrastructure. that's why there is no good news from over there. No feel good specials on TV about the new towns, jobs, and happy lives.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 11:22 AM
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19. Well said, Libodem...
You have expressed my thoughts exactly. No Dem, as far as I know, has let word of our real "mission" pass his or her lips. I just saw Kerry on Face the Nation (tuned in late), but he could have shut up and stayed home for all I care.

All we hear is useless blather about withdraw, don't withdraw, etc. As if...we cared about creating democracy, giving Iraqis a better life or whatever.

To belabor a point: If Iraq exported kumquats we wouldn't care if Sadaam had raped, gassed, pillaged every last Iraqi man, woman and child.

No one, including Kerry, talks about the orders Bremer put in place or the Production Sharing Agreements which our puppet govt. will certainly approve. And I submit that that's the only reason that the MSM is only now giving talk of withdrawal any traction. Because the game is over. We already have what we wanted in the first place - control of Iraqi resources.

We'll declare victory and leave, but Halliburton will control all the oil, and any other shiny trinket that strikes our fancy, until long after everyone who now posts on DU is dead. And the Iraqi people will never be sovereign.

It makes me sick!
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:14 AM
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11. It will also be the death warrant for the American-led
corporate capitalist hierarchical patriarchy that has misruled the world and this country for so long. It will be seen to be unable to beat even a people weakened by sanctions and invasion. The threat of US intervention has long been the strong and only card of these imperialists. And it will have no force anymore. A lot more will collapse than just the GOP. The tsarist Russian government lost some big fights too and just collapsed from within.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:17 AM
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12. DeLay: A death warrant
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:28 AM
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13. 'death warrant' for treason when * crimes are uncovered
by Iraqi whistle blowers and the world investigating the * crimes and corruption there. They better behave cuz it will all come back to them.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:20 AM
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14. Didn't Reagun pull out of Lebanon? Bush 1st sold missiles to Iran
in exchange for release of the hostages. The incidence of terrorism on Americans actually dropped for some years as I recall. We called those years "The Clinton Presidency."

If Reagun can pull out then we can pull out now.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:15 AM
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15. DeLay must not have learned of the 10 Marines that died in Fallujah
just the other day, the "dividend" for having sacked that city a year ago.

Whose death warrant is he talking about?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:40 AM
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18. Ever the patriot, eh Hot Tub?
Cowards cheat their constituents. Your choice was between right and wrong. You chose unwisely.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:13 PM
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20. What a twit. They aren't even able to define who they are fighting but
they are going to obtain victory. All victory means is that the oil is gone and the US treasury is drained dry.

They are robbing us blind folks...every day we stay is another dollar in Tom DeLay's pocket.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:45 PM
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22. Is anybody still listening to you?
Why don't you, Newt and Bob Livingston get a table in the back and fantasize 'til closing time?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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23. DeLay: Victory in Iraq Is 'Our Choice'
DeLay: Victory in Iraq Is 'Our Choice'
Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay Blasts Democrats' Call to Withdraw Troops From Iraq
By JUAN A. LOZANO Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press

HOUSTON Dec 4, 2005 — Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told a group of soldiers Saturday night that withdrawing troops from Iraq now would be "a death warrant for Americans in future terrorist attacks."

"Iraq right now is the central front on the war on terror, whether we like it or not," DeLay told about 200 soldiers and their families at a banquet held in their honor. "Our choice is not between different visions of victory but between victory and surrender. Only one choice is worth the legacy of the United States and the heroes she has lost in this conflict. Victory is our choice."

At least one protester stood outside during Saturday night's event, holding up a sign criticizing DeLay's stance on the war and calling for troops to come home.
(snip/...)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1370541&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Who cares what Tom thinks?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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24. we can CONTROL what everyone does in Iraq
with more firepower...more lives....we can CONTROL...must CONTROL
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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25. And what is Mr. DeLay's 'strategery' for 'winning' in Iraq?
Maybe we should just do some 're-districting'?

Once convicted, perhaps DeLay's sentence could be commuted from prison time to front-line military service in Iraq.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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26. Why isn't this cockroach serving time?
Why is the "liberal" media still treating him like a government leader?
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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30. He WILL be serving time. Asswipe will probably pardon him, though. eom
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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27. He should be plenty busy keeping his corrupt ass out of jail
Tom, You're irrelevant anymore.

Goodbye.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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28. Is this in itself a terrorist threat??
"...withdrawing troops from Iraq now would be "a death warrant for Americans in future terrorist attacks."

He's saying that if we pull out of Iraq, he cannot guarantee our safety. Sounds like a thinly-veiled threat to me.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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29. SILENCE! if we want to hear from you, delay, we'll rattle your cage.
until then, focus on the corner and think about what you've done.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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31. Delay should pick up a gun and join the troops
He could put his money where his mouth is. Killing humans is harder than killing bugs, though.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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32. It's funny that he acknowledges that we are facing overwhelming odds
Bit of a contradiction to the "things are going swimmingly in Iraq, its the media's fault" mentality republicans have always had. Its good to see that talking point die.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:56 PM
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33. Hasn't DeLay realized yet that we have already lost the Iraq War? nt
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:01 PM
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34. Have another Cuban Delay you hypocrite...yer washed up.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:00 PM
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35. let the extremist criminal rant. he's marginalizing himself and the more
he does that, the less chance anyone in his party will want him back as "fearless leader."
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:29 PM
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37. Let all who endorse this occupation
go over and prove their support.
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