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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 04:02 PM
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Lieberman Speaking Out on Bush, Rivals
By RON FOURNIER
AP Political Writer

CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) -- No more Mr. Nice Guy for Joe Lieberman.

The mild-mannered Connecticut senator, his presidential campaign stalled in the Democratic Party's middling mass, is directing harsher salvos at President Bush and - most notably - his rivals.

He says Howard Dean probably can't get elected, accuses John Kerry of waffling on Iraq and calls Dick Gephardt's health care plan "big-government spending."

The most conservative of the field's nine candidates, Lieberman may finally be following the advice of frustrated advisers and even former President Clinton. Their counsel: Toughen your spine in a primary race dominated by liberal voters and angry partisans.

more...http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_LIEBERMAN?SITE=PAPHQ&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 04:12 PM
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1. Blabla bla bla blabla..................tisk tisk....nobody is listenning!!
Toooo bad!!!!!

Whinning looks real bad Joe!!!!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 05:21 PM
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2. Ho hum....
:boring:
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olmy Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 05:56 PM
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3. Crickets chirping......
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:23 PM
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15. You are just saying that because Holy Joe is a religious Jew!
I thought I might do a preemptive strike and post the nonsense that the handful of Lieberman supporters always post in his defense.

The Joe Lieberman 2004 website has twelve Lieberman supporters giving their reasons for their support for Joe. Here is a sample:

Michael Smith supports Lieberman because he is "a very impressive man!":

http://manatt.net/lieberman/i_like_joe/michael_smith.ram

Chris Murphy supports Lieberman because he "trusts him":

http://manatt.net/lieberman/i_like_joe/chris_murphy.ram

Dick Swett, on the other hand, thinks that Holy Joe is a "moderate Democrat" and a populist:

http://manatt.net/lieberman/i_like_joe/dick_swett.ram

Katrina Swett (any relation to Dick Swett) says that she supports Joe because he will bring "compassion" to the government (where did I hear that line about compassion?):

http://manatt.net/lieberman/i_like_joe/katrina_swett.ram

Karen Smith supports Holy Joe because "he is a great guy!":

http://manatt.net/lieberman/i_like_joe/karen_smith.ram

For more Lieberman testimonials:

http://www.joe2004.com/site/PageServer
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 06:37 PM
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4. that's right!
"...Lieberman may finally be following the advice of frustrated advisers and even former President Clinton. Their counsel: Toughen your spine in a primary race dominated by liberal voters and angry partisans."

misrepresent yourself to the people to get elected, it's the american way!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:23 PM
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5. Actually, he's not misrepresenting. When using words like:
Edited on Thu Jul-17-03 07:28 PM by robbedvoter
"big government spending" for a healthcare plan, he shows his colors quite clrearly. Gotta be fair!
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:09 PM
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9. i see your point.
that should appeal greatly to "liberal voters and angry partisans". somehow i don't think that particular formulation is what clinton had in mind for the primaries.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 07:30 PM
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6. Desperado, Why Don't You Come to Your Senses?
So now he's broken the unspoken rule that they all have been abiding by which was only to attack Bush and not each other.

This only reveals the desperation under which his campaign is now operating.

Memo to Joe Lieberman: You shouldn't have pushed Al Gore with your ultimatum to decide by your timeline whether he would run or not.

I wrote back then (well, over a year ago) that I hoped Al would call your bluff and let you run. Well, he did and you tripped all over yourself.

Imagine, on the very week when Democrats are rallying together against the common enemy, George Bush, Lieberman publicly attacks his fellow Democrats.

What a sour guy this man is!
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clarkbarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:18 PM
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7. Holy Joe loves the BROWN LIPSTICK...
...he gets from kissing Bush's Ass
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:27 PM
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8. So, how's Lynn Cheney these days?


Are the two of you still black-listing college professors?

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:35 PM
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10. Oh, THIS is rich
He says Howard Dean probably can't get elected

Like Joe would know? He doesn't have a clue about his own unelectability.

Eloriel
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:38 PM
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11. Somebody needs to whisper in Holy Joe's ear that
Nobody gives a rat's ass about what he says.

He's delusional if he thinks he has a prayer of being nominated or elected. Completely deluded.
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:45 PM
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13. Lieberman is extremely unpopular with democrats
I think he will drop out after the first embarassing primary.

Evan Bayh is nearly as bad, i heard him kissing Junior's ass on O'Gasbag tonight. The DLC is a sickening bastion of neo-con Dinos.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:45 PM
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12. Hit the road Joe and don't try wounding any Dems on your way out.
Or is that why you're really running?:think:
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:07 PM
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14. No respect for a man who builds policy on murder. What's the diff between
Joe and Junior?
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rocketdem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:37 PM
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16. Huh?
Did I hear something?

It sounded almost like a Democrat, but not really.

Oh yeah, it's the pseudo-Repuglican from Conneticut, the gutless wonder who ran back to his safe seat in the senate rather than fight a stolen election.

It's the same guy who, apparently until today, couldn't find anything at all wrong with Mr. Wonderful and his minions in the White House.

Coward. Sycophant.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:43 PM
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17. This American Empire shit has got to go!
I don't care what party name you happen to be using, if you are in support of this preventative war crap, why would you be better than the current Emperor?

If you are going to maintain the Empire, you will have to gut our constitution, so, sorry Joe, you gotta blow!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:47 PM
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18. Ya lieberman keep talking, but Klayman beat ya to it ...................
You had the energy papers this whole time and did nothing and now you have made your bed so you'll have to lay in it!

Klayman has Cheney's energy papers!!!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:08 PM
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19. What makes Lieberman think that Dean can't be elected?
Is is because Dean opposed the war in Iraq? Does opposing any war mean that one is weak on defense?

Or, could it possibly mean that Dean was wise enough to see that the war was unnecessary? Perhaps it means that Dean wasn't so gullible as to buy and repeat the junta's lies, like some other Democratic presidential hopefuls?
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:57 PM
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20. The reason I cannot stand the Senator.
Edited on Fri Jul-18-03 12:03 AM by burr
Dean has stated that if you put a Democratic agenda next the Republican agenda, the Democratic agenda wins everytime. Reagan won in 84 not because people opposed the Democratic agenda, but because the undecided voters picked their candidate based on the state of the economy not ideas. In 1988 Dukakis was defeated not because he was liberal, but because he avoided laying out a specific agenda as Sasso advised him to do. He did not bring Sasso back into the campaign until it was too late. But in 92, 96, and even 2000 the vote of the people clearly favored the Democrat's policy agenda.

But starting in 2000 and again in 2002 the Democrats avoided this agenda, and suffered the consequences. And now Lieberman knocks those few who have the courage to present even some moderate policies as "big-government spending liberals and unelectable."

Why do the actions taken by the campaigns of Dean, Sharpton, and Kucinich get ripped as being negative when Lieberman's attacks are portrayed as independent criticisms, moderate, and patriotic?
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