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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:35 AM
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Feds Say Computer Surveillance Hindered Without Patriot Act
Feds Say Computer Surveillance Hindered Without Patriot Act

The Department of Justice released a list of what it says would be the technology-related ramifications if the remaining provisions of the Patriot Act aren't passed by Dec. 31.

By K.C. Jones
TechWeb News

Dec 21, 2005 05:32 PM

In part of a major Bush Administration lobbying blitz Wednesday, the Department of Justice has released a list of technology-related ramifications if the remaining provisions of the Patriot Act aren't passed by Dec. 31.

Lobbying hard for the passage of the remaining portions of the broad-sweeping legislation, the department released a statement Wednesday stating that the federal government would revert back to a "pre-9/11 mode of information sharing…where terrorists and spies can use technology against us."

The DOJ's position statement indicates that investigators will be several steps behind lawbreakers, unable to trace calls of terrorists and spies who frequently change phones to evade surveillance. Internet service providers that voluntarily disclose e-mails threatening an imminent terrorist attack can be sued, the DOJ stated. American companies will not be able to ask law enforcement to help investigate and disrupt cyber attacks, according to the federal statement.

Federal wiretapping under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, including computer espionage and roving wiretaps, will be prohibited. Communications between law enforcement officers and intelligence officers will be stunted, according to the department. And, federal judges won't be able to issue search warrants for obtaining unopened e-mails stored on an ISP's computer server outside the federal district, according to the DOJ.
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http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=WOLYJTNHYFQ1EQSNDBCSKH0CJUMEKJVN?articleID=175007609
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:49 AM
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1. How has the Patriot act helped us?Where are examples of how ...
spitting on our civil rights is a useful tool for catching the terra-ists
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:33 AM
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2. Feds lie.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:35 AM
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3. The so called "patriot act" ought to be called the treason act
The Constitution protects Americans not the "patriot act."

The treasonous "patriot act" is designed to destroy the Constitution.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 06:49 AM
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4. Just discovered the link has stopped working. This should work:
http://www.informationweek.com/industries/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=175007609

Sorry for the inconvenience. Here's a cute Panda as a peace offering!



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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 07:55 AM
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8. lol...
nice... :rofl:

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 07:02 AM
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5. And This Is A Problem How?
Surveillance for the sake of power grabbing is not a Constitutional right or perogative.

The technology terrorists are using against us consists mostly of bombs made of fertilizer and fuel, and the munitions somebody forgot to guard in the looting of Iraq.

Unless one intends to shut down communications for all, there is no way to prevent terrorists communicating with each other. Talk is cheap. It is the actions which must be prevented, and the means of destruction that must be intercepted.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 07:15 AM
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6. Hindered but not stopped
they will do it anyway.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 07:27 AM
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7. Good!
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