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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:42 PM
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Robert Byrd:A High Price for a Hollow Victory [Speech by Sen. Robert Byrd]
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Robert Byrd: A High Price for a Hollow Victory
Thursday, 6 November 2003, 7:08 am
Speech: U.S. Senator




A High Price for a Hollow Victory

Speech By West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd
via t r u t h o u t.org
Monday 03 November 2003

Senator Byrd delivered the following remarks as the Senate debated whether to grant final Congressional approval to the President's $87 billion funding request for the military and Iraqi reconstruction.

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The Iraq supplemental conference report before the Senate today has been widely described as a victory for President Bush. If hardball politics and lock-step partisanship are the stuff of which victory is made, then I suppose the assessments are accurate. But if reasoned discourse, integrity, and accountability are the measures of true victory, then this package falls far short of the mark.

In the end, the President wrung virtually every important concession he sought from the House-Senate conference committee. Key provisions that the Senate had debated extensively, voted on, and included in its version of the bill - such as providing
half of the Iraq reconstruction funding in the form of loans instead of grants - were thrown overboard in the conference agreement. Senators who had made compelling arguments on the Senate floor only days earlier to limit American taxpayers' liability by providing some of the Iraq reconstruction aid in the form of loans suddenly reversed their position in conference and bowed to the power of the presidency.

Before us today is a massive $87 billion supplemental appropriations package that commits this nation to a long and costly occupation and reconstruction of Iraq, and yet the collective wisdom of the House and Senate appropriations conference that produced it was little more than a shadow play, choreographed to stifle dissent and rubber stamp the President's request.

Perhaps this take-no-prisoners approach is how the President and his advisers define victory, but I fear they are fixated on the muscle of the politics instead of the wisdom of the policy. The fact of the matter is, when it comes to policy, the Iraq supplemental is a monument to failure.

Consider, for example, that before the war, the President's policy advisers assured the American people that Iraq would largely be able to finance its own reconstruction through oil revenues, seized assets, and increased economic productivity.

The $18 billion in this supplemental earmarked for the reconstruction of Iraq is testament to the fallacy of that prediction. It is the American taxpayer, not the Iraqi oil industry, that is being called upon to shoulder the financial burden of rebuilding Iraq.

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Victory is not always about winning. Sometimes, victory is simply about being right. This conference report does not reflect the right policy for Iraq or the right policy for America. I oppose it and I will vote No on final passage.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:46 PM
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1. You tell them Byrd!!!!.......You are the best!!!!
Never let your hair down!!!!
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:53 PM
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2. I like Byrd, but, IMO, he
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 09:56 PM by 9215
is missing the point about this package. Bush does not care about "policy" wins or failures. Bush can shift and move onto another topic with the shit-brain press following along like puppies, keep changing the subject, start a new war, avoid traitorgate, Enron, Iraq lies, "cakewalks" turned into slogs, hiding the war dead,......everything. We could have 10,000 to 50,000 casualties at the rate we are going and no one would even know. Each funeral would be its own hermetically sealed little emotional event with people crying and blathering about the costs of fighting terror. Narrow, circumscribed, ignorant and anonymous people with a tape from the cathode ray tube running endlessly in their fuckbrains showing them how to deal with each situation.


Wars, even pre-emptive ones, aren't declared and nobody cares. Policy is irrelevant, victory is irrelevant,costs are irrelevant, ALL of it is irrelevant except the profits made from the war. 70% of the shitbrain, ultra-shitbrain, and otherwise non-thinking public think that Bush is leading us in a hard fight against terrorism and that Saddamn Hussein is behind 9/11. The "cakewalk" turned into a "long, hard fight" and this mindless, spineless, good-for nothing but prime time horseshit population haven't changed their assessment of him one iota, they still, buy their shit, spend three hours a day in front of a fucking mirror putting on makeup, take their sleepy downers, and peppy uppers and move along. The publics memories have been vaporized. This IS "1984". This deception is EXACTLY what Bush wanted and he got it and Henry Kissinger stating that if we fail in Iraq "the enemy will follow us" capitalized on the BS about Saddam being behind 9/11. People in this country really, really, really believe that Iraq could attack us. That is what little they know about the situation. They are so perfectly mallible that I got to almost praise the Repug mind control assholes for a job well done.

The fascists have the country by the balls and when they squeeze the people who they want to jump, jump. Even when they don't squeeze the Press turns somersaults to please their corporate directors with more Bush the avenging leader bullshit.


"Circus dogs jump when the trainer cracks his whip”, wrote George Orwell of journalists under dictatorships, “but”, he went on to say about journalists in “democratic” societies, “the really well-trained dog is the one that turns his somersault when there is no whip".

I used to waver between contempt and pity for the miserable bastards plodding along each day in their dumb ass circumscribed existence. Now it is mostly the former I feel.


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:23 PM
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3. Not LBN
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 10:23 PM by TahitiNut
"Monday 03 November 2003" ... isn't less than 12 hours old.
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