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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:49 PM
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White House: US "Exhausted' Iraq War Alternatives
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=2&u=/nm/20031106/pl_nm/iraq_usa_offer_dc_2


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"The United States exhausted every legitimate and credible opportunity to resolve this peacefully with Iraq ... Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) had ample opportunity to comply," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters.

He declined to say whether Bush was aware of the reported Iraqi offer to disarm and turn over a top al Qaeda operative in custody in Iraq.

Bush has faced criticism from Democrats that he was overeager to go to war with Iraq and exaggerated the Iraqi threat to make a case for the invasion.

ABC News reported on Wednesday that a middle man between Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's intelligence chief and Pentagon (news - web sites) advisors said he laid out a possible peace deal but the offer was spurned by Washington.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:54 PM
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1. so, let's see if the CIA confirms that they told Richard Perle "no"
on whether to negotiate for peace.

If they deny it then we have his testicles in a vise. Also an opportunity for Shrub to take advantage of a convenient fall guy, a creep who is already in the dog house for profiting off the war.

Will he take it? Or is Shrub in fact the guilty party?
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:04 PM
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5. So we should of nuked Cold War Russia
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 01:07 PM by StClone
They were a bigger threat than Iraq yet we found a way to avert a bigger mess.

Saddam was so hemmed in there was nothing he threaten us with. He was not a terrorist, but an old school dictator. Like Cuba we could have co-existed. But, Saddam was made an expedient example of the Neo's nutty pre-emptive attack experiment.

Containment would have worked. Time was on our side. The results are a failed strategy which gives us a chance to say "told you so." Alas, they care less about failure as long as they can drive the car off the cliff themselves will they be happy.

Iraq is now like herding cats that turn on you Big Time.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:56 PM
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2. Yet, of course, they believe that Clinton had Osama locked up in
chains and on a transport plane 1 hour outside of Gitmo and Bill sent him home free.

Just because one person said "Hey, if we ever catch him in my remote country, can we violate every extradition agreement to bring him to you? Mind you, we don't have him, but I think he's in . . ."
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:58 PM
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3. they exhausted themselves WARMONGERING
bastards
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:59 PM
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4. yeah, and I am the Queen of Sheeba
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/05/06/time.out/

May 6, 2002 Posted: 2:45 PM EDT (1845 GMT)

Two months ago, a group of Republican and Democratic Senators went to the White House to meet with Condoleezza Rice, the President's National Security Adviser. Bush was not scheduled to attend but poked his head in anyway--and soon turned the discussion to Iraq. The President has strong feelings about Saddam Hussein (you might too if the man had tried to assassinate your father, which Saddam attempted to do when former President George Bush visited Kuwait in 1993) and did not try to hide them. He showed little interest in debating what to do about Saddam. Instead, he became notably animated, according to one person in the room, used a vulgar epithet to refer to Saddam and concluded with four words that left no one in doubt about Bush's intentions: "We're taking him out."

these insidious lying murderers did everything in their power to destroy any prospect for any type of peace in the world -

:nuke:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:08 PM
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6. thank you for the link UpInArms....
That is precisely the quote that went through my mind as I read this. It really should be apparent by now, even to the moran murkins, that chimpass and company had NOTHING in their sights but WAR in Iraq from the start.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:21 PM
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16. That is exactly right...9/11 was just a pretext...
W would have gone to war one way or another...it was planned months before 9/11 (and there is no damn connection anyhow, and yes, the misadministration DID clearly try to make that link!)
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:11 PM
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14. Very important link, UpinArms.
This link has been sent to everyone I know. Thank you.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:11 PM
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7. I rated the story a 1
because I am not interested in the spin from the white house. Or I should say the lies of the WH.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:16 PM
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8. Resolve WHAT peacefully, stupid?
What was the beef, anyway? Wasn't the dispute that Saddam had WMD? Didn't he claim he had disarmed, and you claimed he was lying? Wasn't that the whole fucking point of your stupid fucking war?

If not, what the hell was the point?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:19 PM
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9. "Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out!"
spoken like someone really committed to avoiding war.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:25 PM
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10. Just more Soviet-style lies (yawn)
I'm pretty sure the Soviets also exhausted all options prior to invading Afghanistan.

Of course, any reading of recent history shows that is a lie. In Orwellian Imperial Amerika there IS NO HISTORY.

Orwell was right. He missed it by 17 years.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:39 PM
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11. According to a story in the NY Times today...
Iraq was desperate to stop the war, even allowing weapons inspectors back in the country. So this story is possibly a spin attempt to counter the NYT story.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:47 PM
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12. bull crap
They gave Saddam 48 hours to make a deal. During that time, Iraq was desperately trying to cut a deal.

I believe a congressional investigation of this is warranted.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:08 PM
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13. It's important that all of us read UpIn Arm's post #4
As in a report on CNN of 5/6/02.
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brucelee Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:12 PM
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15. Stupid President
President George W Bush and aides lied the United States into a stupid, unnecessary colonial war that has so far cost over 305 Americans killed and 1400 seriously wounded, many thousands of Iraqi dead, and US $1 billion week
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:03 PM
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17. Hi brucelee!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:11 PM
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18. revision upon revision upon revision
they fell all over themselves getting us into this war. now we get to watch them fall all over themselves trying to justify it. it's not an administration... it's a marx brothers movie.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:17 PM
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19. Guess that other story hit so hard that they had to defensively spin
they didn't even try to just weather the storm assuming no one was paying attention. Very interesting.
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