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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:48 AM
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Afghan Minister: Al Qaeda Opens Second Front
With Iraq stretching the military so thin, it looks like Al Quaeda is starting to take advantage of Bush's incompetence.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&e=2&u=/nm/afghan_alqaeda_dc
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:54 AM
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:02 AM
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3. There weren't links before...
Most of us thought that invading Iraq would strengthen & unify these guys. This has occurred.

"Shouldn't we now blow the bastards out of the water?" Please, join up so you can do your part. However, I doubt it will involve many Naval engagements.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:07 AM
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4. Dear Parabura: Maybe You Should Read The Article Before Making...
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 10:09 AM by jayfish
such an assumption. Here, I'll help you:

-SNIP-
KABUL (Reuters) - The al Qaeda network has stepped up activity along the Afghan-Pakistan border, opening a "second front" to divert U.S. military resources and attention from Iraq (news - web sites), Afghanistan (news - web sites)'s interior minister said Friday.
-SNIP-

Do you see it says they are operating in Afghanistan and Pakistan, NOT IRAQ. Geeze, you didn't even need to read the whole thing. Just the, bolded, first paragraph.

Jay


ON EDIT: Sorry Bridget, this was for Parabura.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:09 AM
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6. apparently you didn't read the article
this is the first paragraph:

The al Qaeda network has stepped up activity along the Afghan-Pakistan border, opening a "second front" to divert U.S. military resources and attention from Iraq

You see Al Qaueda has been a presence in Afghanistan for quite some time now. There was never an Al Qaeda presence in Iraq and there was not connection between the regime of Saddam and Al Qaeda.

Now that we're in Iraq our military is stretched so thin that we are unable to combat the people who attacked us on 9/11. In fact Bush's Iraq folly has made us so much weaker that Al Qaeda feels confident enough to begin opening a "second front" in Afghanistan. The Iraq fiasco has made us much, much more vulnerable. Bush has sacrificed our nation's security for the profit of his friends.
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Rollins Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:00 AM
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2. I am still suspicious of the label 'al Qaeda'
Seems the name gets passed around whenever someone wants more money from the US tax payers. "Oh God it's al Qaeda! They are going to take over the world!!"

This Iraqi foreign minister, who I don't trust for a second based only on his shift glance, wants more of our money.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:08 AM
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5. We have always been at war with al Qaeda
Choco-rations may be increased by 2 mg. next quarter.

Doubleplusgood, that.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:27 AM
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7. it's the Afghan minister but you're still right to be suspsicious
All of these oil companies, with important ties to the U.S. media, have interests in the Middle East crucial to their profits. Another company, Unocal, was the major player in a January 1998 agreement with the Taliban to build a natural gas pipeline across Afghanistan. (The U.S. had covertly funded the Taliban to bring stability for the pipeline deal.) In December 1998, they put the project on hold "until an internationally recognized government was in place." Unocal runs its own political action committee and is a major donor to the Republican Party. They spend about $1.5 million every year for lobbying.

<the whole thing>

http://www.kirbymountain.com/rosenlake/media_oil.html

and

THE "WAR ON TERRORISM"
Why do so many people outside of the US seem to think that the war on Afghanistan is related to oil? This article gives an overview of a number of sources that examine the many links between oil policy and events in Afghanistan, and gives the gist of their arguments on subjects such as the rise and fall of the Taliban.
http://www.afgha.com/article.php?sid=13313&mode=thread&order=0

Appointments to the region since the war are also indicative of an oil connection. For example, Zalmay Khalilzad was appointed as envoy to Afghanistan in January of 2002. Khalilzad is a former aide to the Texas-based oil company Unocal. He drew up Unocal's risk analysis on its proposed trans-Afghan gas pipeline. Hamed Karzai, the president of Afghanistan, is also a former consultant for Unocal.
http://www.corpwatch.org/news/PND.jsp?articleid=1149

Unocal formed the CentGas consortium in the mid-90s with the intent of building the trans-Afghan pipeline. Unocal then withdrew from the pipeline project in 1998, after the US bombed Afghanistan. At the time, the statement issued by the company said that "Unocal will only participate in construction of the proposed Central Asia Gas Pipeline when and if Afghanistan achieves the peace and stability necessary to obtain financing from international lending agencies for this project and an established government is recognized by the United Nations and the United States."
http://www.unocal.com/uclnews/98news/082198.htm

The conditions Unocal wanted currently exist. So is the trans-Afghan pipeline project going through? You bet--it is the major Afghan "reconstruction" project. Other sources estimate that building could begin in mid-2003.
http://www.afgha.com/article.php?sid=14728&mode=thread&order=0

Although earlier reports suggested that Unocal was the top company being considered to build the pipeline, currently it appears that Unocal will not have any direct involvement. In fact, thus far the company has made a point of distancing itself from the project, especially in response to reports that have highlighted Unocal's former attempts to court the Taliban in order to pave the way for the pipeline.
http://www.unocal.com/uclnews/98news/centgas.htm

The war on Afghanistan allowed the US to place military bases in the nine surrounding countries, all rich in oil and natural gas. In fact, oil can be linked to any number of US policies around the world that are being pursued under the guise of the "war on terrorism."
http://www.utnereader.com/bMedia.tmpl?command=search&db=dArticle.db&eqheadlinedata=Oiling%20the%20War%20Machine

A number of countries with interests in oil have reason to worry about what a new US presence in Central Asia and possibly the Persian Gulf could mean for them. This US presence could also trigger more terrorist attacks aimed at disrupting the world economic system.
http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=853

US dependence on Saudi oil has forced te Bush administration to maintain an alliance with the country that may be interfering with the goals of the "war on terrorism." This article quotes Edward L. Morse, former deputy assistant secretary of state for international energy policy under President Ronald Reagan, who has said, "The stark truth is that we're dependent on this country that directly or indirectly finances people who are a direct threat to you and me as individuals." This is apparently why the US government has remained fairly silent about the obvious Saudi connection to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntn14772.htm

 
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:33 AM
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8. isn't really kind of a blanket term, like "the mafia"?
n/t
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