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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:20 AM
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Companies Add 126,000 Jobs in October
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=&e=4&u=/ap/20031107/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy

WASHINGTON - The nation's unemployment rate dropped to 6 percent in October as companies added thousands of new jobs for the third straight month, new evidence of an improving labor market.

The Labor Department (news - web sites) reported Friday that payrolls grew by 126,000 last month, significantly more than the 50,000 new jobs that economists had predicted. That followed a revised 125,000 new jobs in September, which initially was reported at 57,000.

U.S. companies also added new jobs in August, marking three months of hiring gains following a sixth-month slump. October hiring occurred across a broad swath of the business landscape, including technical services, temporary employment firms, health care, social work, education and retail.

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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:22 AM
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1. Questions & Confusion
1. I thought layoffs surged in October? That was what another article said...

2. When did people receive the latest tax rebate?

3. The article mentions that this was the third consecutive month of job creation. I thought there was a net loss in jobs last quarter?
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junker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:24 AM
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2. white is black, black is white, all is grey
take a look at the actual numbers at the bls site and you can see that even the lies are no longer coherent....or see geo ure's site in a few days for a breakdown of how thelies are layed out.
www.urbansurvival.com
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:28 AM
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5. 127k jobs - but no comment on structural Deficit or decline in real wages
127k jobs - but no comment on structural Deficit or decline in real wages


The decline in real wage growth and, more importantly, increased deficits that are now structural in nature, will destroy this economy - Bush must be replaced.

But our media can not even mention that 8.8 million remained unemployed last month, with about 2 million without jobs for 27 weeks or more

Job Watch -

On October 21, The New York Times reported that Treasury Secretary John Snow projected that the economy will generate two million additional jobs,about 200,000 per month, before next years election. This new numberis a huge retreat from the administrations previous projection made when it was selling its tax cuts. In February the Council of Economic Advisers projected 306,000 per month job growth starting in mid-2003 if the tax cuts were passed and roughly 228,000 jobs created per month without the tax cuts.

It takes 170,000 new jobs each month just to provide jobs for an expanding population and workforce and 300,000 new jobs each month to lower the unemployment rate by one percentage point over the course of a year. http://jobwatch.org/

So we got a "good" number -127,000 -but still increasing unemployed - as 127,000 does not cover population growth. Once military rotates back - if they rotate back with a lower reserve/guard call up - we may see a drop in "job creation"


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
Technical information: Household data: (202) 691-6378 USDL 03-675
http://www.bls.gov/cps/ Establishment data: 691-6555 Transmission of material in this release is http://www.bls.gov/ces/ embargoed until 8:30 A.M. (EST), Media contact: 691-5902 Friday, November 7, 2003.
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION: OCTOBER 2003 -Employment rose in October, and the unemployment rate, at 6.0 percent, was essentially unchanged, the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported today. Nonfarm payroll employment rose by 126,000 in October,following a similar increase (as revised) in September. Job gains occurred inseveral service industries in October.Manufacturing employment continued to decline, but the rate of job loss has moderated in recent months.


Perhaps we should remind ourselves that in Feb 2003 the DOL changed all the seasonal adjustments - so anyone want to compare last year to this year?

From Feb 2003:
http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_notice02.htm Several major changes affect the Current Population Survey (household) dataThese include the use of new population controls that reflect Census 2000 results and new information about net migration, the use of new questions about race and Hispanic ethnicity, the introduction of new industry and occupation classifications, improvements in the seasonal adjustment processes, and the annual update of seasonal adjustment factors. For all data series, these changes affect the comparability of the anuary 2003 estimates with those for earlier months. Additional detail is provided in the release at http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_notice02a.htm

Several major changes affect the Current Population Surveyhousehold) data Revisions and additions have been made to the A tables of theEmployment Situation. Several series have been affected by conceptual changes or new standards for presenting data. The changes are described in the release at http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Last Modified Date: February 07, 2003



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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:33 AM
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6. thanx, junker, I'd forgotten about urbansurvival.com, great link
the TVpundits have been nonplussed about reaction to
this report.

Why isn't the market taking off? Gee, I don't know, maybe
noone believes it?

The politicos have no choice but look through rose colored spreadsheets. If you believe the numbers, be drug tested, see a shrink, or go watch a Disney animated feature because you're just not connected with the read (sic.real) world.
http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:27 AM
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4. 172,000 announced layoffs coming.
172,000 jobs will be lost in the coming months with the announcements having been made in Oct.
170000 jobs need to be created each month JUST for the people entering the job markets.
It would take 18 months of 126,000 jobs being created just to catch up to the 3 million lost in the last 3 years.
Clinton created 230,000 jobs a month EVERY month.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:24 AM
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3. I wonder if Elaine Chao has a reason for releasing this "data?"
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finn Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:50 AM
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7. Well let's see
It christmas time where stores hirer people for the holidays. by january 1 those jobs are gone.
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:03 AM
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8. 2+2= temp jobs for the Holiday in the retail sector
Nothing to see here, move along.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:08 AM
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9. How much of this is Christmas hiring?
nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:09 AM
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10. duplicate
See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=205334

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation,
TahitiNut - DU moderator
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