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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:49 PM
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Authorities Worried Al Qaeda May Use Cargo Planes in Attack
Authorities Worried Al Qaeda May Use Cargo Planes in Attack
Fri November 7, 2003 08:22 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. authorities said on Friday they had received intelligence in recent weeks suggesting that al Qaeda was interested in using commercial cargo planes to attack American facilities.

While the information was not so specific as to identify a date, time or place for such an attack, it indicated that Osama bin Laden's network was interested in using cargo planes against American targets, possibly inside the United States.

"There is threat information pointing to that as a possible means they might use, including in this country," the official told Reuters on condition of anonymity.

"There is nothing specific, but there is interest on their part in possibly using this (cargo plane) as a means to launch an attack against U.S. facilities," he said.


more...............

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3780731
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:53 PM
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1. Why do I have a hard time beleving this?
Crying wolf again? But what if it realy happens? I find it equaly hard to beleive that another major attack would do anything to hurt Bush. If any thing, it would stringth him, and give him an excuse to declare Marshel law.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 06:51 AM
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14. PROJECT--"LETS SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF THE OLD PEOPLE"
When asked why she was stocking up on 50 pounds of rice, Millie, age 83 stated,"The terrorists are coming to get us".

I have heard many versions of this every time, some wack job, tries to scare us with this crap.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:56 PM
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2. ooooh, I feel so much better, now that we know
While the information was not so specific as to identify a date, time or place for such an attack, it indicated that Osama bin Laden's network was interested in using cargo planes against American targets, possibly inside the United States.

Just how hard do you figure it is to guess that Osama's network is/might be/oughta be "interested" in this?

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:56 PM
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3. cool, I forgot all about the recent dead soldiers, the Pentagon supoena,
the Ken Lay documents, the Mission Accomplished flap, the lies told about Pvt Lynch, the Halliburton price-gouging, the shut-out of congressional Dems, the Plame leak treason...

is there anything else they can scare me into forgetting? :shrug:
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:22 PM
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8. the war on
the poor, the environment, civil liberties, human rights, etc.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:57 PM
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4. This is about the 300th warning
where we hear about a "plan", but

"While the information was not so specific as to identify a date, time or place for such an attack"

If they can get specific enough info on the "plan" why not the details? And if we can't get the details, what's the point of telling the public? Should we start our own volunteer force of cargo plane inspectors? Of what possible benefit is it to expose this to the American people?

And why the "anonymous" source????? WHy isn't DoHS making this announcement publicly?

Finally, what color should I change my home terrorist threat level indicator to?
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:10 PM
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6. Maybe its becase Flisher went to work for Osama
He never gave any details under Bush, why not.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 05:29 AM
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12. ... what color should I change my home terrorist threat level indicat
Edited on Sat Nov-08-03 05:29 AM by radfringe
Brown - for bushit :evilgrin:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:07 PM
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5. So, why are they telling me about it?
What am I supposed to do to prevent this? Stop shipping stuff?


Don

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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:17 PM
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7. I'm 'interested' in going to space and visiting other worlds
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. authorities said on Friday they had received intelligence in recent weeks suggesting that al Qaeda was interested in using commercial cargo planes to attack American facilities.

What exactly does this mean? Wouldn't it be bigger news if they WEREN'T interested?
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ameriphile Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:45 PM
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9. This won't worry me a bit, unless
the terror alert rainbow moves up a color. If that happens, we'd all have to make the appropriate preparations.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 09:52 AM
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18. What preparations would be appropriate?
I mean, against a cargo craft crashing into your house or elsewhere in your city?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:46 PM
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10. well, I guess that means
I can't stow away on a cargo plane like I had planned...

Seriously though, isn't it terrible that no one believes them when they come out with goofy statements like, "there is an interest on their part.."

It sounds like they're out in pairs, holding a clipboard and walking around, trying to decide where to hide their next bomb. And of course, there is nothing specific. This really increases my confidence in them. Keystones.

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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 06:51 AM
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15. so what to do
Send the local reserve unit out to the airport to guard the FedEX terminal?

Oh wait they are in Iraq looking for and getting killed over WMD that NEVER existed. The reserves are in Iraq looking for al-qaeda that were never there, at least until we got there.

Now that they made this logical guess and whipped it out to generate fear, will they be able to also guess that the terrorists will have enough brains to stow aboard by 'shipping' themselves somewhere and then emerging to hijack the plane and crash it into the hoglot at crawford or some other place--- probably not.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 05:28 AM
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11. Baghdad Bush approval rating avg Oct at 53%, job rating Oct avg 52%
essentially no change from previous month...

so the "cargo plane" 'lert is no surprise and will soon be followed by a Bin-Laden tape/video (ABC news hinted at it last night)

This is the "Terror Alert of the Month" and "Video-Threat of the Month" Club selections for November. This month's selections may be aired unless Baghdad Bush's number rise significantly.

an Ironic Minute: Baghdad Bush blamed FBI for intelligence mishandling that enabled September 11 to happen. Baghdad Bush is now blaming the CIA for intelligence mishandling about Iraq. If our intelligence agencies are mishandling so much intelligence - then why should we believe that the "ATTACK OF THE CARGO PLANES" intelligence is anymore reliable or credible?


In all seriousness - if/when another attack occurs on US soil - do you think we will have a "uniting moment" and rally around Baghdad Bush, or will we turn on him?


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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 06:45 AM
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13. meanwhile
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 09:21 AM
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16. you would think a serious story like this would stay at the top
Edited on Sat Nov-08-03 09:22 AM by cosmicdot
... I looked for it this morning from my start page ... I found it ... eventually :eyes: ... with a little effort ...

... and, just yesterday (I believe) someone was inquiring about Herr Ridge and what he has been up to with his massive budget and handsome salary ...

... they're talking of kamikaze surprise attacks ... just about anywhere, at any time ... we should be at red alert ...

I declare the TV screen just isn't big enough for all news all the time ... so much keeps getting bumped out of the picture ...



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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 09:45 AM
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17. The color code didn't change....but CNN sure did report this piece of
crap.

They (rove) are pulling out the big guns again...they are running out of ammo...we have them on the run...run you bastards.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:34 AM
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19. from Washington Post article
according to the Washington Post ...

The warning is based on information from a single individual, and a U.S. official familiar with his reports said: "We haven't had the opportunity to fully judge his credibility." But intelligence officers deemed the information believable enough to justify the strengthened security warning, the official said.

sooooooooo...what does this little paragraph really saying?

***Unnamed US official - give Baghdad Bush plausible deniability

***"haven't had the opportunity to fully judge his credibility..." - ready made excuse if people complain about faux terror alerts

*** intelligence officers deemed the information believable - ready made scape-gaot, blame intel if the attack happens, blame intel if it doesn't
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