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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:44 PM
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NYT: Conservatives See Court Shift as Culmination
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/30/politics/politicsspecial1/30alito.html

In February of last year, as rumors swirled about the failing health of Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, a team of conservative grass-roots organizers, public relations specialists and legal strategists met to prepare a battle plan for whomever the next Supreme Court nominee might be.

The leaders were Leonard A. Leo, executive vice president of the Federalist Society and informal adviser to the White House; Edwin Meese III, attorney general in the Reagan administration; and C. Boyden Gray, the White House counsel under the first President Bush and a veteran of confirmation battles. They had recruited 18 conservative lawyers to study the records of 18 potential nominees, including Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Judge Samuel A. Alito.

They trained more than three dozen lawyers across the country to respond to news media reports on the president's eventual pick. And they began weekly and eventually daily conference calls to fine-tune their strategy, for example, responding to the nomination of Judge Alito last October by recruiting Italian-American groups to protest the use of the nickname "Scalito," which would have linked Judge Alito to the conservative Justice Antonin Scalia.

"We boxed them in," one lawyer present during those strategy meetings said with pride in an interview over the weekend. This lawyer and others present who described the meeting were granted anonymity because the meetings were confidential and because the team had told its allies not to gloat publicly until the confirmation vote was cast.

With Judge Alito's all but certain confirmation Tuesday as the 110th justice of the Supreme Court, the conservative legal movement is on the brink of a triumph 25 years in the making.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:47 PM
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1. Yup. The last piece of the puzzle
The closing of the circle.

The moat gates are about to be lifted, and the media warriors are on the ramparts.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:38 AM
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22. The last sentence quote of Bork gave me chills....

"It has been a long time coming," Judge Bork said, "but more needs to be done."

These Federalist Society Sons of Bitches are waiting for Justice Stevens to die...so they can then complete their final sealing of the control of all branches of government....

:scared:
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:46 AM
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24. They don't WAIT for anyone to die....
The sick bastards are PRAYING for it.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:50 AM
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25. I'm sure they have Pat Robertson organizing "prayer circles" for that!
sick sick sick....
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:48 PM
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2. FILIBUSTER COMPLETE!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:00 PM
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3. If Alito is nominated, the Democratic Party is a lie and a myth.
n/t
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:12 PM
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5. do you mean confirmed?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:01 PM
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4. You know. These people are like rats. They multiply, scatter,
and scurry behind the scenes to do crap like this and no one is watching. No one knows what the hell they're up to until times like these. Their tenacity is something else, is it not? 25 YEARS in the making. GEEZUS.

I'm SHOCKED that this is being released tomorrow. Really. How lucky can we be?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:30 PM
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9. Some Dems could learn a thing or two, it seems.
Like the filibuster: we shouldn't be running around NOW trying to figure out who's with us and who isn't. The arms should have been twisted a long time ago.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:12 PM
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6. You cannot appease the Fascists, as the DLC has advocated
We must oppose them even if we have to go underground to fight the Christian tyranny they are about to impose on America.
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:16 PM
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7. I have not finshed the article yet but this will not be complete conservat
ive victory. We still have kennedy as a swing vote. Yes the court will be more conservtive. But there will still be 5 judges who do not take their marching orders from James Dobson.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:32 PM
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11. bush may get more court picks before he is thrown out :_( some of
the remaining justices are on their last legs so to speak, agewise.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/liberaltshirts.htm
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:33 PM
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12. Yep but hey hears to Stevans health
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:01 AM
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27. If Ann, the man, Coulter doesn't POISON him...PELICAN BRIEF
anyone?:scared: Do ANY OF YOU doubt this regime would kill Stevens for his seat? NOT ME! I don't doubt for a second they would kill him to finish their takeover of the SCOTUS. If I were Stevens, I'd have body guards and food testers for the next 3 years.:scared:
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:34 PM
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13. and if we dont win in 2008 we will be more screwed the a 2 dollar ho
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:43 PM
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16. We won't win in 2008!
The GOP controls the election process and the ballot counting, so it doesn't matter how many votes we get, the election result is guaranteed to go the GOP way before a single vote is cast.

We live in a dictatorship.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:31 AM
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18. Yeah, but we'll be voting after another hurricane season in 2006.
And in 2008.

Unless you believe global warming is a lie?

Also, a dictatorship needs a military. We ain't got one, brilliant George saw to that.

It's going to get rough, ugly, even hungry, and we will probably never be what we were...but fascists get tossed when the rot is complete. If the election system is completely corrupt, they'll end by being removed a different way. Their choice.

The only question is how many of us will be dead by then.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:12 AM
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28. I tend to agree, IndianaGreen.
Until election fraud using private voting machines is EXPOSED, we do live in a GOP dictatorship.

Until ELECTION FRAUD is brought front and center to the American people and change is demanded by We the People, this charade of a "democratic republic" will continue.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:20 PM
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8. Yes. The culmination of complete corruption. n/t
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:32 PM
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10. What these idiots fail to realize as they celebrate is this:
They have condemned their children and grandchildren to a life under fascism. How is that a good thing? Do they honestly believe their families will be immune forever? As soon as the "leaders" get everything they want, they're going to start "weeding out" the people they don't need anymore - the people they used and manipulated into doing their dirty work. Like every "good dictatorship" only a select few will remain truly free to enjoy the wealth and power - the rest will be discarded.

Congratulations assholes ... you are about to find out that you are expendable, too!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:35 PM
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14. that's what this was all about, folks
getting roberts and alito in there....for YEARS. they robbed the treasury, they claimed the judiciary, their job is done. :(
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:42 PM
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15. This had to happen for a new progressive movement to take root.
The American people will not like the bag of goods they bought with the conservatives running everything. Years from now there will be the same kind of change but it will be to liberalism. It takes enough people to feel the pain before they want to do something about it. It will not happen in my lifetime but it will happen.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:07 AM
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17. Jay-sus, what a situation.
These sick bastards will stop at nothing...:grr::mad::grr:
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:11 AM
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19. I can't believe they're are only 3 recommends for this!
I just gave it the 4th. Come on someone--give it the 5th!

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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:14 AM
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20. Sad that we have to put up with DLC/wimps as leaders
We have so compromised our side to the point that we do not make preparations ahead of the inevitable storms that we know will be coming. How many liberal/progressives outfits prepared before hand knowing what the stakes are? none to my knowledge. We are constantly reminded that nothing could be done until after a nominee's hearing. But at that point we are only playing their game. These conservatives are devious and unrelenting in the ways they scheme and plot for their fights. They play to win all the time!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:25 AM
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21. so things will now get worse for them?
Interesting choice of words. "Culmination" kind of implies that this was the high point, and will decline in the future.
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:45 AM
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23. We should send a copy of this article to each Dem. Senator (and the
few moderate repugs) Because sometimes I wonder if they even read the paper or pay attention to stuff like this. Their blase attitude about all of this shows me that they don't realize how serious this situation is. I think this article does a good job of pointing out the danger of letting Alito get confirmed.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:03 PM
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29. Ted Kennedy alluded to this article
during his speech today against Alito.
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:41 PM
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30. I heard that.
Go Uncle Ted!:applause: :woohoo:
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:48 AM
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26. Oh, wow....

I have to admit this stuff doesn't surprise me at this point. And I think they're right, they've only gotten to four Right fruitcakes on the Court- if Roberts stays a team player, which he's too smart to do for long.

I get stuck on more fundamental things with these people, on this as on stuff like the Iraq war/occupation. It's the Why.

There's something in me that wants to believe that these morons have some kind of higher ideal, how ever grotesque. But the evidence is really that it's at bottom all motivated by some mix of pure ego and grossest, stupidest, narcissism and vanity.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:50 PM
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31. "...told its allies not to gloat publicly until the confirmation vote ..."
smug bastards.
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