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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:22 AM
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9/11 inquiry orders White House compliance
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 03:25 AM by kysrsoze
Could this finally be it?

I hope to God this spreads to the western papers. It's the first article I've seen where our typically quiet, docile democrats start questioning the timeframe surrounding the attack, including the length of time taken to scramble intercepting fighter jets. Something has to change soon. You can't have people swallow these many lies, can you? Snippet:


The national commission investigating the September 11 attacks has again resorted to legal measures to force US government agencies to tell the truth.




The commission has decided to subpoena the US military's North American Aerospace Defence Command (NORAD) records for information it promised but did not deliver.

It will be the second subpoena issued by the commission which has complained of delays by some government agencies in providing information needed to complete the investigation by a May deadline.



Some members of the commission are interested in the time sequence for notifying the jets that headed to Washington where one of the hijacked planes struck the Pentagon.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CBEBD494-6600-41EF-8A46-89BF366E5D45.htm
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:45 AM
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1. wh
It is too early in the morning for me to remember the name of the mythological figure that spent his life looking for an honest man. I don't think there are any honest men left today. I keep hoping some courageous reporter at one of the major newspapers will finally say Enough, and write the truth. For whatever reason they keep quiet. To think that we have to supoena someone who is in high office to get to the truth is unbelievable. Patriotism seems only to be in the eye of the Republicans, and their style of patriotism is treachery. If, and I say if, Democrats win in 2004 maybe we can start a real investigation. But with the voting machines rigged I don't know if we will make it.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:51 AM
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2. Don't be so down. It's depressing
I always have hope for this world. If not, I'd just give in. I think there are still some honest people out there, my Illinois senator, Dick Durbin, being one of them. If only we can get the press to listen to them.

Looking at it, I have to think that this investigation has now come to the point of subpoenas, I have to think that the Repukes have begun cooking their own goose. You look at the way they smashed the 9/11 commission on Friday, and the new response and you have to figure that was a serious mistake. Now the Dems are finally fighting back with legal action. Somebody's working hard to ensure htis gets heard. It has to. This would blow everything else completely apart. I'm crossing my fingers.

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:55 AM
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4. allow me: Diogenes (poor bastard)
At some point, it may become clear (not without vigorous efforts) that the plan of the current junta is simply so detrimental to such a vast majority of the electorate that critical mass is reached. We'll see.
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CivilRightsNow Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:06 AM
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5. Critical Mass...
isn't that far off.

IMHO.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:35 AM
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6. wh
Ah yes, now I remember. Went to bed at 10:30, got up at 1:30. Brain still in bed.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:53 AM
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9. Hard to find a Diogenes today
much less an honest reporter. None of them are willing to forswear the riches and ambition that their corporate masters promise them. They would rather aim for a Georgetown townhouse than a barrel, which is what they'd probably get if they went in too heaviliy for truth telling.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:14 AM
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10. There will be a point at which the dishonest men will begin to lose money
and then it will collapse. We, of course, have been and will be very much hurt as a country, but hopefully it is before they have made us an official prison state. They will not have the bulk of the military on their side and they will not have the intelligence agents on their side and that will be to our benefit. But it could get really ugly first before this relative handful of maniacs and their basically 30% voter population is brought down.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:55 AM
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3. Good
Another debate point if the Democratic canidates have the conjones to bring it up and ask Dimbo what he has to hide.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:46 AM
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7. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

October 27, 2003

CONTACT: Press Office, 802-651-3200

GOVERNOR DEAN CALLS ON PRESIDENT BUSH TO STOP STONEWALLING 9/11 COMMISSION

DES MOINES -- Democratic presidential candidate Governor Howard Dean, M.D. issued the following statement in response to reports that the bipartisan 9/11 commission could soon be forced to issue subpoenas to the White House and other executive branch agencies because of continuing delays by the Bush administration in providing documents and other evidence needed by the panel.

"I am very concerned by the President's foot dragging on cooperation with the bi-partisan 9/11 commission. We already know that President Bush received a written intelligence report in August 2001, the month before the attacks that Al Qaeda might try to hijack American passenger planes. The Administration's current stonewalling suggests that there is more that they knew and want to hide from the American public.

"The work that this commission is performing is critical to our national security. We need to know what transpired before the tragedy of 9/11 in order to avoid future similar tragedies. If the bipartisan commission investigating the terrorist attacks says that it needs the documents the Administration is withholding, then the President has an obligation to the American people to turn them over immediately.

"An issue this important to our national security should trump whatever concerns about political embarrassment the Administration might have."

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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:45 AM
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8. I'm read Stanley Kurnow's history of Vietnam. You could almost
substitute Iraq for Vietnam and come out with the same lessons to be learned. But I am encouraged, even as I see us making the same mistakes as the French did in Indochina, that the truth will come out. Unfortunately, it will cost many lives on both sides.

A lesson I have learned already: the smallest persistance can change history. We mustn't give up. Be of good courage.
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zanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 11:23 AM
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11. Could the American people "handle the truth"?
I'm all for this investigation and revealing the truth about 9/11. I just wonder if we could handle being told that 3,000 Americans were killed BECAUSE of the administration? I don't know what conservatives would do with this kind of information; I have a strong feeling that they would either go even deeper into denial, or that violence would erupt among citizens. It's just something that's occurred to me, and I wonder what you think?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 11:36 AM
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12. It's the BFEE, not the American people,
who can't handle the truth. Most Americans, like people everywhere, are just fine with the truth. Once it penetrates, they act on it.

I often think of what Winston Churchill said: Something to the effect that you can always count on the Americans to do the right thing. After they've exausted all the other options.

As a psychologist who has worked a lot with survivors of trauma & abuse, I must say that Churchill's words remind me a lot of how the processes of denial and minimization work.
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