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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:34 PM
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Senators on Intelligence Panel Clash on Talk Show
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 01:25 PM by khephra
The Republican chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and a senior Democratic member of the panel clashed in unusually sharp and public ways today in a dispute that has interrupted the committee's review of prewar intelligence on Iraq.

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Senator Pat Roberts, the Kansas Republican who is the chairman of the committee, said on "Fox News Sunday," "I was stunned by this memo, shocked by this memo."

In a voice shaking with anger, he said that the Democratic memo jeopardized a 30-year history on the committee — one of the most sensitive in Congress — of nonpartisan activity. "What this memo has done," he added, "is really poisoned the well."

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But Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, a senior Democratic member, replied that Republicans were using their outrage over the memo — which he and other Democrats said must have been stolen — to avoid addressing its central point.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/09/politics/09CND-IHTI.html?ex=1069045200&
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:39 PM
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1. Here's the working link
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:41 PM
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2. good. i'm glad some of this "indignance" is being dragged out and shown
for what it is... further stonewalling.

they use the threat of examination by an independent group to shut down the examination of the truth? pshaw... gentlemen, stop playing games and do the people's work. right now, you sissy indignicans. feigned indignance is part of the bushco plan. "why i never!" "how dare you!" "this is unheard of!" whining sissies.
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:55 PM
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6. speaking of whining sissies
Wait until the 30 hour debate on the senate floor regarding judges when Hatch talks about what a great job he did for Clinton.

Facts are pesky critters....this committee has confirmed 168 and dismissed 4.( best record in 15 years)........30 hours spent over these four. What a waste of the people's time.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:48 PM
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3. Misplaced indignity
more fodder for talk shows....I do wonder
about conservative's intelligence.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:52 PM
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4. I think that the dems should remove their velvet gloves....
I am sick and tired of this pandering to the party line. WHERE is the
REAL opposition?! :mad:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:55 PM
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5. Agree. Unfortunately, nobody does outrage like Republicans.
And given the state of American media, it's the only outrage which is validated.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 01:01 PM
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9. That's what I've been asking for 3
years.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:56 PM
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7. We all need to innundate Roberts
We all need to inundate Pat Roberts with calls of outrage; the pugs are using this memo to avoid the investigation of Bush. It is subterfuge plain and simple. We also need to call Senator Levin and applaud his efforts. The toll free number is !-800-648-3516. Call Jay Rockefellar too. I am also going to call that catkiller Frist, whose family insurance empire has been found guilty of fraud.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 01:46 PM
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14. absoulutely right
they need to know their deception isn't working, we know they're covering up for Bush. Ask them if they want to go down with Bush.
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 12:58 PM
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8. Thanks for posting
Three of our main Sunday talk shows air at the same time.....will catch the replay on FOX this afternoon.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 01:17 PM
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10. I wish he had the same outrage and indignation over the outing of Plame
They at least should be consistent. We're talking about a memo that wasn't even disseminated versus the life of CIA agent being put in danger and the very national security, that the Republicans so proudly tout as their own, being jeopardized. I wish they'd stop being such hypocrites!
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 01:20 PM
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11. "I am stunned", "I am outranged"
he said with a shaking voice - oh, which topic was he stunned and outraged about - they use this terminology all the time for whatever topic - of course with the shaking voice - be nice if one of them said it about our dying military.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 01:21 PM
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12. This is an outrage
This is nothing but a cover up. All that memo did was outline common legislative strategy. If the GOP doesn't like dems going public with the cover up, they could simply cooperate.

If the dems had done something like this with Clinton it would have been on TV 24/7.

I hope this isn't the last word on Bush's lies about the WMD.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 01:57 PM
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15. Hi creedsneakers2!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 01:26 PM
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13. Here's a link to the transcript
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 02:43 PM
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19. Levin is so good
Levin hits back with every punch:

LEVIN: Well, where did Senator Roberts get it from? Who did he get it from? Where did that staffer get that memo which was leaked?

You know, to say that a well is poisoned -- if it's poisoned at all, which I hope it isn't, for God's sake -- the other issues that you talk about -- Korea, what are we going to do in Iraq -- are so much more significant than a staffer's words. But if a well is poisoned, it's poisoned by people stealing a memo of a staffer, which is in a file apparently...

SNOW: Well...

LEVIN: ... and then dropping it in the well, and then saying, "Oh, my God, the well is now poisoned."

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 02:48 PM
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20. Levin is amazing... one of the all-time good-guys, to me.
Wish he'd come south and be our senator... :-)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 02:18 PM
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16. On the senate floor late Friday afternoon.....
The Republicans started with Bill First who went on and on .....then one after another did the same bitching about this leaked memo.

The Democrats got their fight and I hope they beat the liveing daylights out of those whinny sicko's. They've covered for junior too long, let the games begin.

I do think this was all planned and the stupid repukes can't figure it out. Pat Roberts shouldn't even be in the senate, what a dumb ass!
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 02:23 PM
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17. Absolutely.
The GOP has been covering for Junior. I think the GOP is stupid to pick this fight -- unless the Dems don't call their bluff.

The Dems should go sav on 'em.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 02:35 PM
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18. "Outraged by the outrageousness of this outrageous outrage"
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 02:58 PM by Snellius
I still want to know how long has Karl Rove and his Republican gestapo had a clandestine intelligence network spying on Democratic members of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Talk about "poisoning the well."

They should cut a deal: We'll tell you who wrote the memo, if you tell us who stole it.
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:15 PM
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21. Here's the deal that I want them to cut
We'll tell you who wrote the memo, if you tell us who outed Plame.

They sure do get their knickers in a twist over a slap with a glove, while the whole time they're beating on us with 2 by 4's.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 03:33 PM
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22. Right on!
The dingle berries would all start dropping with heavy sweat! All the repuke senators would be walking around with baggy wet pants.

God! am I terrible, please forgive me. 'eh?
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:18 PM
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23. Recently, every time Roberts was on TV
debating some issue before the committee, he would say something about "a tad bit of politics" being played here--he was always so smug in saying it. Sure is funny to see his big old flip flop now. I wish some TV station would pull out clips of him seeming to enjoy accusing the Democrats of playing a "tad bit of politics" when it helped him evade questions and issues, and now being so angry, also to evade a real investigation.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:28 PM
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24. Democrats on the Intelligence Committee need to stand their ground
They're spot on. How the Bush administration used intelligence is a crucial issue and if the Republicans can't see this they're unfit to lead the committee and should step down.
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