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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:46 PM Original message |
AP: Reid Aided Abramoff Clients, Records Show |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. ugh, this just got really ugly... then again |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 09:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
87. . . not news... How can the media SO not get it? disingenuous bullshit |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Hmmm. |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Agreed .... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Josh Marshall at TPM says article is pretty weak stuff..... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
61. Why? Reid isn't supposed to address needs of his constituents? |
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SCDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Interesting what MSM chooses to disclose - detailed billing records |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. True, but the sentence that jumps out at me is: |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Dean's not a liar unless he knew or had reason to believe this was true. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. That is exactly my point. It seems to indicate that Reid misled us all. |
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kittenwithmittens (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. My brother uses the same line |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Now YOU'RE jumping to conclusions |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. That is exactly what I am saying. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. actually dean said "from a fec report" i believe it was FEC report |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. You're right. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
86. Howard said this on Faux News Sunday Jan 29 |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. How does it make dean a liar? |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. You may be right. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. No - He still did not get any money from Abramoff |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. None of the ILLEGAL Abramoff money went to Dems. Not a penny. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. True enough. |
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azureblue (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Identify "Lobbying Partners" |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. That is the million dollar question, isn't it? n/t |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
42. That line is misleading, read it again and call Dean a lier |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I agree. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. well, if you remember, Dean said "no evidence I have seen" has shown |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. That is still true. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. every senator probably took calls from all lobbiests |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Abramoff is not one of our guys though. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. "Abramoff's records show his lobbying partners" |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Gotcha. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. so Abramoff is bad and his lobbying partners are good? |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 10:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
89. haha,no,but corporations aren't good either, but most people work for them |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 02:55 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. I have mixed emotions on lobbyists |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
84. Abramoff related |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. NO! The article does NOT say Reid took Abramoff's calls. You have |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Hit piece is exactly what it looks like. |
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JWS (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
75. I can't argue with that |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
91. Billed for phone contacts or meetings? |
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central scrutinizer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. Just because they billed their clients |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. What you just pointed out says NOTHING about Reid doing anything |
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Buford Pusser (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
65. But emails show Abramoff and Co. fabricated their billings. |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. I think your missing the point of Dean's statement |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. Sounds like he helped Abramoff's victims.... |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Bingo! (nt) |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Remember, Abramoff ripped the tribes off for millions |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Republicans Truely Disgust Me |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
58. You and me both--Republicans are the scum of the earth |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. Exactly and isn't it interesting how diligently the propaganda machine |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
60. Well put.... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. Reid opposed the Alito filibuster |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. I dont like him, but this story is BS fed to AP by the GOP in order |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
108. Reid could be tainted in other ways too. |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. So What? Guilt Through Association? |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. Without knowing the details... |
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medeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. he's my senator and it's total bs n/t |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
66. It does have a funny smell to it.....I can't buy it on the basis of |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. Man! Rove has been really busy in the last few days hasn't he? nt |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
21. Top story - the media will play it up for all it is worth. |
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terip64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I'm afraid you might be right |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. You've got it! That's what's going to be happening |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
70. its one ofthe top political stories on Yahoo |
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JWS (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
76. Yep |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
24. Tribe money wasn't DIRTY UNTIL ABRAMOFF BRIBED HIS PET REPUBS WITH IT. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
29. sounds like a more detailed version of the accusations made |
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patdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:10 PM Original message |
When they say "Abramhoff's firm" are they refering to HIS firm or the firm |
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patdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. When they say "Abramhoff's firm" are they refering to HIS firm or the firm |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
32. I didn't know Jack Abramoff owned Indians Tribes. n/t |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
33. We ought to wait before judgement on this... AP obtained records fromWHOM? |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
37. Reid is from Nevada. |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. This is BS! Read the Head line, "...Abramoff Clients!!!" SO WHAT! |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
40. This line here is the "beef" of the article, but they wrote is so strange |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. That's what I got from it, and I didn't like it. |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
43. The indian nonsense COULD all be anti gambling stance.... |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
44. Let the swiftboating begin! |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Very true, but now what WILL happen is, this article will get picked up... |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. Already happened - check this link. |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Yep, but just wait, when UPI's NewsTrack re-edits it, it will be... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
46. Looks like Edward Ayoob (Former Reid Counsel)leaked the documents |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. Definitely a Swift Boat attempt...Troll just posted it without a link on |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
64. PUH-LEEEZE.... |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
67. I'm not going to defend him just because he's a Democrat |
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JWS (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. If it said frist or delay |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
92. REID DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY MONEY FROM ABRAMOFF! |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 02:36 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I'm not buying anything being "fed" to me so back the hell off. |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
71. Great, I knew this would happen.. |
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JWS (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
72. Pretty much another attempt to overstate Democrats role |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
77. Sounds like more CNN Republican Propaganda |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
78. My opinion, investigate them all. Prosecute any guilty ones. nt |
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VirginiaDem (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
79. Reid voted AGAINST Abramoff clients on issue at hand |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
80. Oh, yawn |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
82. Instead of every one getting their panties in a wad over this.... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
83. If the records also show that Reid TOOK NO MONEY from Abramoff |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
85. Breaking: press whores trample one another to get to phone booths. |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
88. And Reid thought he was fighting a fair war...lol...get to work Harry! |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
90. soooo ... i take it there will be |
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Senator Obama (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
93. Remember the President took money from the same |
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NNguyenMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
96. His reelection committee took campaign money from tribes who benefited |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
97. Like many other states in the southwest |
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Postmanx (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
98. Abramoff Team and Reid's Office Had Frequent Contact, Records Show |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Did you see Josh Marshall? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. The stars must be aligned today, Mr. Benchley, I believe we agree |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. By the way, this desperate and dishonest attempt to slander Harry Reid |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Again, we agree. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Wonder what else is still out there? |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. If he took money from Slabramoff, then throw him out with all the |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. So?... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. None of the ILLEGAL Abramoff money went to Dems. Not a penny. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Check out this information from Josh Marshall's site |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Abramoff did not give one dime to Reid. |
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