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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:01 AM Original message |
Arrested Russian Businessman Is Carlyle Group Adviser ...(Khodorkovsky) |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. Now this is an interesting development. Isn't it? n/t |
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DUreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Are we having fun yet? |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. Very very interesting. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I think it means Reagan ended the Cold war and Junior started it again? |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Thank you for jogging the memory. |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. I wonder how long Putin will live? I expect to see headlines |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I don't know? This is one shrewd SOB here. Bet he uses mice too |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
60. More info on the SAMs in Iraq? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. CNN has been reporting "Soviet" manufactured today |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Poppy Satan said "don't f--- with us", Putin called bluff |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Putin is protecting Russia's oil |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Is Putin protecting it for Russia or his own economic interests? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 03:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. I don't know |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
85. Possibly. I certainly trust Putin more than Bush. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 05:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
79. Very, very, very interesting indeed |
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jonoboy (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
5. never cross a spook |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. But Bush has looked into his eyes. |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
30. The problem is Putin looked into Dubya's eyes and saw his chance |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. To say the least |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
6. Carlyle spokesman Christopher W. Ullman declined to comment on the matter. |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
8. It has a nice beat but can you dance to it? |
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Aidoneus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
9. that explains the harsh barking for the reaction |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
58. Should it surprise anyone that Putin is taking on Shrub? |
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emad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
10. Seem to remember that three or four days before Khodorkhovsky |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:28 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. i remember that too. |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. here it is. bush senior quits carlyle group. wonder why? heh. |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. I was thinking the same thing |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 03:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
74. What does Greg Palast have to say about this? |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Well now Sir, that is quite a coincidence isn't it? |
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emad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. John Major is the court-appointed guardian of Prince William |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Perhaps John Major will be at the Royal Feast.... |
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emad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Re: Royal Feast: |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 09:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. There are no good guys here. McCain included n/t |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 09:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Gosh Don, there's gotta be one, LOL!! |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. There WAS a good guy on the scene |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 05:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
76. Yes, Putin did indeed make a referenc to energy guys in the US |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 09:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. interesting article from the |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. Aah, another secret meeting with Cheney |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
13. HEY all the BEST criminals work for Carlyle Group. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 09:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. We make money the old-fashioned way. |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
14. OMG! The Carlyle group is looking more like some cyborg |
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loudnclear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 09:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Once you understand who this Russian guy really is |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 09:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Could you expound? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 09:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I believe loud is thinking of |
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loudnclear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
61. Sharon visited Putin right after this happened. |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. al-Qaeda is just a useful tool for control |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
29. Soros's offices in Moscow were raided...and there is a connection |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Holy crapola Batman, why didn't Sorros just give Puti the key to.... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
105. You made the connection too! Cool... Good to see you here! |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
31. Yukos Cited for Allowing 'Unsystematic" Rabbit Sex |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
32. A clean sweep...Major Yukos shareholder stripped of Senate Seat |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
33. Mr. Putin intends to keep control of Russian Oil. |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:12 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. One look at the U.S. Gov. merger with Corporations has opened |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I don't think things are that clear cut over there either |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Stunning similarities to 9/11 MIHOP |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Yea, but they haven't figured out yet is all the rules have changed |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. I don't think things are clear cut at all. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
65. One of the interesting aspects is watching the party line |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
34. Poppy was in Russia recently |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Did "the biggest crook in the world" give Bush a blowjob? |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
36. We can only guess what Machiavellian macinations are afoot here |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
37. Lots of dots being connected here. |
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Unknown Known (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
38. Is this Halliburton vs. Carlyle? |
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pfitz59 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Dickie gazes lovingly at Rummie. |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Aah...true love |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Ten to one |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Carlyle/Halliburton/BFEE wants Russia's oil |
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Don_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I Wonder If The RSVD Was Monitoring Poppy |
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knowledgeispower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Putin vs. Poppy Bush |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 02:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
71. I'd enjoy watching the chess match, but speaking as a pawn, |
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ignatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 03:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
75. So who said the cold war was over? Just as we funded and trained |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. Geez, which is worse? |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
55. Was this name on the "let one happen, stop the rest" paper |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Goodcatch...I have a copy of that document at home and will look |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Found it here, lot of Russian names but not that one |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. Delmart Vreeland. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 02:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Is he dead or alive? |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I don't know |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 03:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I don't know what happened to Mr. Vreeland, |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:48 PM Response to Reply #69 |
86. Why on earth would it reflect badly on Al Queda in the Arab world |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 11:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. I was just about to post that in Meeting Room. I would take bets that the |
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CaptainClark23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
77. Tin Hardhats ON! |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 05:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. huh?? |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:51 AM Response to Reply #77 |
89. I did a search and came up with this |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
80. OK, here is a list & links of 4 months of background articles on all this! |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 06:01 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Whoa! My head is spinning. So that explosion in Riyadh, and the |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 02:19 PM Response to Reply #80 |
98. Damn, Spot on, Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 02:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
100. People need to notice about what is going on here |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
81. That explains why U.S. media immediately condemned Putin. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
83. Link to another Carlyle thread here on LBN |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 09:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Found this crazy stuff sniffing for Carlyle Group + Iraq + Khodorkovsky |
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:41 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. You all are not going back far enough. Go back to Poppy's reign. In |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 01:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. * and the rest of the PNAc really are dealing with a weak hand |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:29 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Exactly, what did he need that Carlyle stock sale money for? |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
91. Earth to US Media - |
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ignatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
92. One more kick. This is a must read thread, it is what Iraq, Afghanistan, |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:29 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I think the PNAc was against the whole world from the get go |
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CaptainClark23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
95. Alfa Group, Access/Renova and BP to create new company |
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Unknown Known (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 11:44 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Got euro? |
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CaptainClark23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
97. Kicking and Screaming (N/T) |
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austinboy (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
99. The beginning of a New World Order? |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 02:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. No Shit! Do you think that there is any correlation between this |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 03:21 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I with you champ, I started noting this, posting on a few of these threads |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
103. Kicking for the connection! |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
104. You MUST read this thread and keep an eye OPEN! |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 04:04 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. I would put nothing past them folks |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 05:35 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I'm with you on this one! |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
107. More Details- funding OPPOSITION PARTIES TO PUTIN |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
109. Two more possible pieces of the puzzle |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 09:17 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. You could be right. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
111. Will Mr. Lay bring cookies to Mr. Khodordovsky? |
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demgrrrll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:05 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Someone will have to help me here but apparently Exxon was part |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-03 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
113. kicking cause it is all related. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-03 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
114. Here's some more stuff |
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