MSNBC Breaking: Kerry Has Fired Campaign Manager

[matcom]

Just announced.

Its an effort to "shake up" his "weak" campaign (their words).

More to come.....

[La_Serpiente]

1. Good God

[ringmastery]

2. Link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20031110/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_campaign

[leetrisck]

5. Just heard it on C-Span

also -

[dArKeR]

3. If Kerry used this language 'Fired' then I hope he doesn't do well in the

future.

What ever happened to dignity in America? Someone who's trying to do their best job doesn't deserved to have this word shoved in their face. Why does it seem to me everyone is out looking for blood? Maybe Kerry should take the responsibility and Fire himself?

[onebigbadwulf]

4. I don't know what he expects....

Every positive attribute about Kerry is over-exemplified by another candidated. He got taken, maybe he's just trying to get valuable press?

[TomNickell]

13. Not Kerry's words... eom

nt

[TahitiNut]

6. Aricles in the press ...

Kerry Fires Campaign Manager
John Kerry Fires Campaign Manager in Attempt to Shake Up Beleaguered Presidential Bid
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Nov. 10 — Democratic candidate John Kerry fired his campaign manager Sunday night in an attempt shake up his beleaguered presidential bid, The Associated Press learned.
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Beleaguered Kerry Fires Campaign Manager
Democrat John Kerry Fires Campaign Manager in Attempt to Shake Up Beleaguered Presidential Bid
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Nov. 10 — Democratic candidate John Kerry fired his campaign manager Sunday night in an attempt shake up his beleaguered presidential bid, The Associated Press learned.
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Isn't that fun? Both articles from AP/ABC News, but the latter shows the heavy hand of editors. "Liberal media"? (Yeah, riiight.)

[piece sine]

7. psssst....

big-time centrist DC-based Dem. fundraisers are flummoxed that Kerry is doing so poorly. This pre-primary season is got going the way they thought.

[UpInArms]

8. these dlc'ers haven't

figured out that we really really are tired of the repub-lite ways

wonder who they are??

http://www.ndol.org/new_dem_dir_action.cfm?viewAll=1

and, gee, John Kerry's name appears with them -

we don't want dems that support the bad choices of the repub party

those people are unelectable (imho)

[Monte Carlo]

9. I hope that Kerry can turn his campaign around.

I'm still convinced that he is our best shot at beating Bush and becoming a leader for the Democrats in the next 4 years. He had better hurry; time is running short.

[wildwww2]

10. Kerry suffers from too many people like me. I will vote for him but he is

at the tail end of the list because of his vote for Bu$h`s war crime. If I as a former Marine knew that Iraq was an impossible to win war to begin with. Then he should of too. With all of his inside knowledge there is no way he should have not known that an Iraq invasion would only work as a tool for Boy Bu$h to use to steal the next election and stay in power. And power and greed are all Bu$h Inc. is about. And anyone who say`s different is lying to themselves and me.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[wabeewoman]

29. Agreed, wildwww2

and for me, add to that the fact that he has seemed pretty impotent in the Senate in dealing with bush. If Byrd can stand up, why couldn't Kerry. And, in fairness, maybe he did some but he didn't find a way to get that message out. I'll vote for him if he is the demo choice but I don't think he can beat bush.

[bleedingheart]

11. this doesn't look good for Kerry...

this is an admission that he is being outpaced by Dean.

[tsipple]

12. So, Does This Mean...

...Kerry opts-in or opts-out of the federal matching funds system?

Also, anyone want to find out whether Jordan was getting paid more or less than Cahill? (Kerry pays less to women, yada yada yada. Let's invent another faux scandal.)

[TexasPatriot]

14. hrm

maybe its not about his campaign manager... maybe its about Kerry. I wonder if that thought crosses his mind.

[Eloriel]

28. ROTFL -- that reminds me of something Phil Gramm said

when he got out of the race early.

Let's see. I'll probably bungle this. I think he did poorly in a primary he'd hoped to do well in, and he said to his wife, "Maybe it's a message from God." She said something like, "Yeah, the message is: the people don't want you."

Eloriel

[JNelson6563]

15. If I were Kerry's mgr

I would forbid him from giving so much free publicity to Dean. I would have him talk about what's wrong and how he'll fix it.

Any questions about Dean should be answered with "I'm not here to talk about Dean, I'm here to talk about America's future".

That's what they should all do when the whore-press tries to bait them.

Julie

[eissa]

40. That's great advice Julie

Let's hope the Kerry camp doesn't take it; it may actually have a positive impact on his poll numbers!

[cspiguy]

16. Only really help would be - Kerry Fires Self

in bid to shake up his losing campaign. He is so over. Get out.

[smallprint]

17. In my book, he already fired himself

when he voted for the Iraq war resolution.

I'm not sure how he can get around that. Although Dean has waffled too, he never had to put his antiwar views to a vote.

[0007]

18. A change would have been better...

if it had been quietly.

[Dover]

19. From the Yahoo News article......

...Kerry released a statement saying he made a change, and that campaign manager Jim Jordan's job was being given to veteran Democratic operative Mary Beth Cahill and that Jordan was being offered another position.


Two senior campaign officials speaking on condition of anonymity had told The Associated Press earlier the decision to oust Jordan was made jointly by Kerry and his campaign chairman, former New Hampshire Gov. Jeanne Shaheen.


The sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Kerry told Jordan the reason he was removed was because changes were needed in the campaign. Kerry has been trailing considerably behind former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean (news - web sites) in the polls.


"From the bottom of my heart, I thank Jim Jordan for his leadership, extremely hard work, unsurpassed loyalty and devotion to me, to this campaign, and to the people who have worked with him," Kerry said in the statement.


Kerry said he has asked Jordan to remain as a senior strategist "as we enter this critical phase of the campaign."


An official close to Jordan, who asked not to be publicly identified, said it was unclear whether Jordan would accept the offer.


Kerry called Cahill "an accomplished leader for Democrats and progressive causes." She has worked for Emily's List, a lobbying group on behalf of women's political issues, and also for Bill Clinton (news - web sites) and Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass. She currently is chief of staff for Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass....>>

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20031110/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_campaign

[Bandit]

30. Message here is Democratic Base not DLC

Cahill is a Liberal. She has worked for some of the most Liberal Politicians and Liberal causes like Emily"s List. I say way to go Senator Kerry. You may be slow but you are ahead of some. Dean just happened to get there first. Democrats are crying for a real politician who champions their causes and not just the causes of the "Big Money" folks. This has given me a whole new respect for Senator Kerry. I have always liked him but now I like him a lot more.

[Tatiana]

20. It's a start.

Hopefully he'll be able to re-energize his campaign and get on the right track.

[Vikingking66]

21. again? man, he goes through campaign managers like...

tissue paper.

[realFedUp]

22. I imagine it is difficult having both Senate and campaign teams

when you have to depend on both's opinions.

[Rose Siding]

23. Hard, but nothing like

depending on the opinions of a full Cabinet. Seems this was done later than it should have been. Would it have taken him that long to route out a poorly performing cabinet sec.? Would he have taken the bad advice from them that he appears to have taken from Jordan?

Kerry's a great Dem but this is a poor showing, imo.

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

24. Good

Jordan has been running an awful campaign. Kudos to Kerry for making a tough but smart decision. Hopefully now Kerry's message will focus on Kerry, not Dean.

[Tansy_Gold]

33. If Saturday's event in Phoenix is any example. . . . . .

. . . . of the way Jordan was orchestrating Kerry's campaign, then a shake-up was definitely needed.

And if by some chance Chris Heinz is still reading DU and has any influence with the Senator, then maybe he will pass this along :-) --

The Maricopa County Democratic Party held a "convention" of sorts in Phoenix Saturday afternoon. There was considerable advance notice of this event so the various candidates' campaign staffs could set up.

The event was to start at 2. I arrived at 1:40. The Dean, Kucinich, Clark, Gephardt, and Lieberman teams already had their tables set up, with literature, buttons, stickers, etc. all nicely laid out. They had signs securely taped to their canopies. Their representatives were seated behind well-decorated tables, and were clearly identified by their campaign shirts and nametags and buttons. They had balloons and candy and other goodies to hand out. They were all actively talking to people who had come by to learn about the candidates.

The Kerry people showed up at 2:45. They had no table, no table cover, no chairs. One of them wore a Kerry tee-shirt and a couple of them had Kerry buttons or stickers. They were all college students and seemed to have no clue what they were supposed to do.

They were graciously offered the use of a canopy and cardtable brought by one of the convention attendees. They had a roll of ordinary tape that was insufficient to attach their signs to the canopy. They were ready to give up when another attendee showed them how to make-do with what they had and got the signs hung. They then began spreading out the small amount of literature they had brought. Most of it consisted of cheap b&w photocopies, a good portion of which were bent, wrinkled, and/or stained with food. (No, I'm not exaggerating.)

The day was breezy and they had brought nothing to hold the papers in place except for a handful of DumDum (how appropriate) lollipops. They spent a good portion of their time chasing down bits of paper that blew around.

They had not brought a volunteer or information sign-up sheet. The only thing they brought was a sheet for people who were interested in joining Kerry in Tuesday's Veterans' Day parade.

The person in charge -- if you can call it that -- did not have any identification. He was not wearing either a Kerry campaign shirt or hat or even a Kerry sticker. He spent approximately half an hour lounging in a chair (brought by someone else) chatting on his cell phone. Most of his comrades spent their afternoon standing well behind the table and chatting about their school studies. All are students at Arizona State University. Some discussed the possibility of moving to Canada in the event of a military draft.

The young woman who has been more or less in charge of the Phoenix office and who has sent out most of the information on the Kerry campaign doings in Phoenix finally showed up at about 4:00, as the event itself was winding down. She wore a Kerry tee-shirt but had no other identification. She stayed briefly, spoke to a few people, and then left. While the other campaign staffs -- Clark and Dean and Gephardt and Kucinich and Lieberban -- were still talking to interested voters, the Kerry kids had disappeared.

The Senator is supposed to be in Phoenix tomorrow for the Veterans' Day parade and maybe he should listen to some of the people who will be walking with him down Central Avenue.

One of those just may be

Tansy Gold

[JNelson6563]

34. Wow!! That's really something!

Very revealing tale! Thanks for posting it.

Julie

[WilliamPitt]

25. Bye, John

See you in 2008. :(

[opihimoimoi]

26. I hope this gets turned around and he emerges up there somewhere

perhaps a VP or an ambassador/cab post.

But, I see evidence of skipping out on classes when ELECTING A PRESIDENT 101 was in session.

Now it will be either Dean or Clark??

Rest assured the Pubs want our weakest when 04 comes around.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

27. Rest assured the Pubs want our weakest

and Dean will fill that role nicely and Clark won't even be able to save him.

[Bandit]

35. You never give it a rest do you?

I have never witnessed such hatred from a Democrat. You take the cake. I am beginning to think you are Rove in drag.

[Arugula Latte]

37. I second that emotion

After I saw this was a post about Kerry, I thought, I'll bet if I scroll down I'll see yet another I-hate-Dean post from "Newyorker." Sure enough, just as the sun rose in the east today, there it was.

To quote Dieter of SNL's "Sprockets": Your story has become tiresome, newyorkerfrommass. Don't you have anything else to say other than Dean is the devil incarnate?

[eissa]

41. Me third

this person is sooooo predictable/bitter :evilgrin:

[Arugula Latte]

38. Question for Will Pitt

If you think this is the end of Kerry's run, do you have a second choice candidate?

[w4rma]

39. …

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=682576

[davidinalameda]

31. maybe they'll stop calling me

begging for bucks now!

[janx]

32. Wait--isn't this the second time this has happened?

Hasn't he now had two campaign managers? I hope he gets things straightened out.

[seaglass]

36. Are you thinking of Chris Lehane? He quit because

he argued for Kerry to go after Dean last summer and Shrum and others disagreed. Lehane wasn't the campaign manager though.

[robbedvoter]

42. Why are these things news? Who cares?

What Kerry says, does is relevant. Who is running the apparatus - I don't want to know.
All this innuendo - he was a Gore man, a Clinton man, he did that or this for so and so I I went with that nonsense with Clark.
These are people whose job is to manage campaigns. Sometimes they get fored. End of story.

[peanut]

43. More story: truly disgusting

Anyone with any respect whatsoever left for John Kerry, this story is pretty strong stuff:

a) the problem being identified as kerry not doing enuf of the hard work himself, not his staff

b) the disgusting behavior on the phone with his senior staff, not even knowing how to say one of their names, eating while telling the staff that he is letting Jordan go and it's a one day story?

http://start.earthlink.net/newsarticle?cat=9&aid=1110052656_5308_lead_story

who would want to ever work with this man, let alone vote for him?

[dolstein]

44. Can a presidential campaign fire its candidate?

NT