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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:13 PM
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India, Russia developing combat aircraft
http://www.centralchronicle.com/20031111/1111002.htm

NEW DELHI: Disclosing that India and Russia have begun development of a sophisticated combat aircraft, Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpay- ee has said that the defence co-operation between the two coun- tries was of a long-term and mutually beneficial character.

Asserting that Indo-Russian defence and military co-operation was "stable and rapidly" developing, Vajpayee said the two countries have started work on a fifth generation combat plane.

Two state-of-art frigates built in Russia have already joined the Indian naval fleet and deals on purchase of Sukhoi-30 MKI war planes and their licensed production in India are underway, Vajpayee told a group of Russian journalists in New Delhi on the eve of his departure on a three-day official visit to Moscow.

Russia has delivered the modern T-90 tanks to the Indian Army he said adding that the "implementation of these and other projects proves co-operation between the two countries in the defence area is of a long-term and mutually beneficial character." "The two countries are committed to maintaining and consolidating bilater- al strategic partnership," he was quoted as saying by ITAR-TASS news agency.

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More "uniting" by Shrub?
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:15 PM
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1. payed for by taxes
on the income generated by tech and support industry jobs shipped to india. See the 'free market' stab itself in the back.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:45 PM
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6. much of the western wealth
was built on resource consumption and exploitation of the third world.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:16 PM
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2. OMG, threats to our hegemony!!!
Does this mean pre-emptive attacks, again?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:22 PM
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3. Ah, yes, the fall of the Roman EMpire
There were many causes of the fall of the Roman Empire, internally and externally, but the basic summary of the big picture is this: Rome mishandled and used up its natural resources, thus having to rely on other regions to supply them. This led them into conflict with many of these regions, requiring them to use and maintain too large an army, which drained their treasury and created more enemies. Eventually, this cuaght up with them as they went broke and as the other nations they had exploited for so long began military invasions which destroyed them.

Any similarity between this account and current events is solely based on events and reality.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:42 PM
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5. Yes, yes, and yes.
I'm a big Roman history buff, and I couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't have said it any better than you did, though. Your post said it all and yet was very concise.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:36 PM
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4. Here, this is fun too:
India Test Fires Supersonic Cruise Anti-Ship Missile

NEW DELHI, 10 November 2003 - India yesterday successfully tested a supersonic cruise anti-ship
missile, it is jointly developing with Russia, from a launch site in the eastern state of Orissa, defense
officials said.

The Brahmos missile has a range of 300 kilometers (186 miles) and can carry a 200-kilogram
(440-pound) conventional warhead. It was first test fired in June 2001.

The test took place yesterday morning at the Interim-Test-Range at Chandipur, 180 kilometers (111
miles) from Orissa?s state capital Bhubaneswar.

?After achieving precision guidance capability in the surface-to-surface version from a fixed launcher
in its fourth trial on Oct. 29, the missile was tested to check its other parameters today,? a defense
source said.

al Jazeera

Chinese version:

3M-80E Supersonic Anti-Ship Missile (SS-N-22)

NAME

Russian Designation: 3M-80E Moskit
NATO Codename: SS-N-22 Sunburn

CONTRACTOR

Raduga Machine Building Design Bureau (Missile)
Soyuz Turaevo Machine Design Bureau (Propulsion system)

PROGRAMME

The 3M-80 Moskit anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM), code named SS-N-22 Sunburn by
NATO, is considered by many observers to be the most threatening ship-launched ASCM
in service today. The missile's designers have stated openly that the missile was
developed to defeat the U.S. Navy's Aegis air-defense system. The 3M-80/SS-N-22
missile entered service in 1984 -- a year after the U.S. Navy's first Aegis-equipped ship,
Ticonderoga (CG-47), entered service.

China obtained the 3M-80E missile together with a deal of purchasing two Russian-built
Sovremenny class missile destroyers in 2000 and 2001. The PLA Navy have reportedly
received over 100 3M-80E Moskit missiles from Russia, and have already test fired the
missile in 2001.

sinodefence

These things can be put on ships, truck, aircraft, and most
anything else. The only weakness I can see it they use active
radar, but at Mach 3 and 20 meters I don't see that it matters
much.
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