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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:41 AM
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Iraqi arrested for criticising U.S
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - American soldiers handcuffed and firmly wrapped masking tape around an Iraqi man's mouth after they arrested him for speaking out against occupation troops.

Asked why the man had been arrested and put into the back of a Humvee vehicle on Tahrir Square, the commanding officer told Reuters at the scene on Tuesday: "This man has been detained for making anti-coalition statements."

He refused to say what the man said.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/24by7panews/page.cfm?objectid=13612777&method=full&siteid=50143

I thought Bush's NEW policy is to just drop a 500 pound bomb on a guy like this?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:43 AM
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1. Just a test run for Imperial Amerika 2050
Glsd I won't be around to see it.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:52 AM
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3. Feeling positive this morning? I think it will happen
way before that.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:04 AM
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7. Maybe you meant 2005...
...but I doubt if it takes that long.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:49 AM
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2. look how free they are!
that's just Liberation Cuffs and Victory Tape!
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:56 AM
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5. They wanted to prevent him
from throwing roses and singing jubilant songs praising his liberation.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 02:53 PM
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24. we Americans are humble folk
so much adulation by the Iraqis is downright embarrassing to us.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:48 AM
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16. an image of freedom
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 09:48 AM by Aidoneus


Liberation Cuffs & Victory Tape for all free peoples!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:53 AM
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4. Democracy in action...............
yes the Conservative version of Democracy is alive and well in Iraq. How wonderful these people must feel with all of their newfound freedoms. I'm sure the troops were showered with flowers after this incident.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:00 AM
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6. Duct tape is so much cheaper than First Amendment Zones
Just wait 'til the CPA and DoD start comparing notes with Rove's advance people. I think the little psychopath meant what he said when he stated that there should be limits to freedom, and I think it's becoming clearer that he meant pretty restrictive limits at that.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:47 AM
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20. Don't give ideas to the Bush people
Next thing you will see is the same thing being done in the US to those that dare speak up against the regime.

BTW, arresting the Iraqi for speaking out is what Saddam used to do. Now the Iraqis know that there is no difference between Saddam and the US, they both murder and subjugate the Iraqi people.

Way to go soldier!
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:04 AM
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8. I wonder how the Bushovics will spin this one
Double-speak or double-talk? How will Condalessa Rice explain this? I bet her answer will be the most entertaining.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:14 AM
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9. This will not need to be spun
Notice it's from a British publication. It won't get any air time in the US. As such, the Administration will ignore it. I think the preferred method of dealing with bad news is to ignore it, followed by ridicule, then alternate interpretation, then attacking the messenger, then just throwing a whole bunch of garbage at any handy wall and hoping that confusion reigns. The next step is to manipulate the judiciary, or just flat-out control it. And so on. This one won't even be a blip on the President's Daily Comic Book briefing.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:29 AM
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10. spin
Wow! You have summed it up beautifully. Thanks.
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metisnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:55 AM
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14. right on target
welcome to DU Don!

:dem:
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:07 AM
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18. Thanks
I've been around for a couple of years, but changed my username yesterday on a lark. Still, it's nice to get a welcome. :)

Take care.
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LeftistGorilla Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:45 AM
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11. aint freedom a bitch....
moves like this don't help anybody....
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:45 AM
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12. hmmmm - let me think....
didn't SH refuse to allow people to speak out against him?

didn't SH arrest dissidents?

didn't SH kill Iraqis?

so tell me again how we have changed their lives and liberated them?

I am so disgusted :mad:

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:50 AM
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13. Emperor Bunnypants* is the same as Saddam Hussein
If Bunnyoants* ruled Iraq, he would murder and turture his enemies just like Saddam, I believe.

If Saddam had the tremendous task of destrying a 225-year-old Republic (bristling with an armed populace) and turning into his own private family organization, he would proceed with caution and only use targeted assassinations like Wellstone in the early stegs.

It would only be when he reduced the opposition and the infrastructure of checks and balances and had installed his own Loyalists in every sector of the Former Republic's law enfroceemnt and military that he would feel bold enough to let "his true self out".

See what our great-grandchildren have to look forward to during the reign of Emperor George P. Caligula (or would that be Uday P. Bush?)
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:38 AM
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15. This is how we introduce Democracy?
We arrest people for making "anti-coalition statements"?

Someone in Congress or with access to the spinning heads shows needs to call them on this one.

I want to know how many people have been detained for making anti-coalition statements, and how precisely this contributes to building Democracy in the Middle East?

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 02:50 PM
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23. I'm betting a large percentage of the 5000
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/11/sprj.irq.main/index.html

snip>
Sanchez said more than 5,000 suspected terrorists of various nationalities are in custody and undergoing interrogation.

At one time, 20 suspected al Qaeda members were being questioned. It never was established that they belonged to the terrorist group, Sanchez said.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:55 AM
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17. Ahhh...smell the democracy in the air?
This is what the fascist Chimpster would LOVE to do to all of us.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:42 AM
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19. Iraqi bound and gagged for protest
Iraqi bound and gagged for protest
Tuesday 11 November 2003

US occupation soldiers handcuffed and firmly wrapped masking tape around an Iraqi man's mouth as they arrested him for speaking out against occupation troops.

The arrest was captured on camera by international photojournalists.

Asked on Tuesday why the man had been arrested and put into the back of a Humvee vehicle on Tahrir Square, the commanding officer told Reuters at the scene: "This man has been detained for making anti- coalition statements."

--snip--

Another US soldier swore at Iraqis as he ordered them to move back. School teachers and young students looked on.

--snip--

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/62F3218A-0044-47E5-AFFB-B93773B4B141.htm
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:01 AM
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21. Bound and gagged for free speech, heh?
n/t
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TrueStory Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 02:45 PM
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22. The US officer refused to repeat what the man said
It's obvious. Iraqi people make anti-coalition statements in Arabic language. The US officer can't speak Arabic, so he can't repeat the statements.

The Question: If the US officer can't speak arabic, how could he realise that those statements were "anti-coalition"???
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:13 PM
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26. Why let a little thing like that stand in the way?
Maybe he could look into his soul, just as George W., the "Psychic pResident" did with Putin.

From the article:
U.S. politicians and military commanders often say they toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein so that Iraqis can enjoy free speech and democracy after years of iron-fisted rule.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 02:55 PM
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25. I don't think there are enough prisons in the whole world to hold all
those who are critical of Bushco. Wouldn't it be more efficient just to lock up the BushBoyz? (..for their own protection, of course. An "exclusion zone" all to themselves).

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