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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:01 PM
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Bush Warns Extremists Seek to Rule Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3375700,00.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - Foreign fighters who seek to install a Taliban-style government in Iraq are coordinating with Saddam Hussein loyalists to launch deadly attacks on U.S. troops, President Bush asserted Tuesday as he mourned rising casualties.

Bush has previously accused the two groups of seeking to intimidate Americans in Iraq. But as explosions in Baghdad disrupted his Veterans Day tribute from afar, he accused them of conspiring with each other in the wave of attacks.

``Over time, Baath Party and Fedayeen fighters and other Saddam loyalists have organized to attack our forces, to terrorize international aid workers and to murder innocent Iraqis,'' Bush told a supportive audience at the conservative Heritage Foundation.

``Foreign jihadists have arrived across Iraq's borders in small groups with the goal of installing a Taliban-like regime,'' he said. Also in the mix, Bush maintained, are militants with al-Qaida and the affiliated Ansar al-Islam - two groups ``always eager to join in the killing and to seek revenge after their defeat in Afghanistan.''

``Saddam loyalists and foreign terrorists may have different long-term goals, but they share a near-term strategy: to terrorize Iraqis and to intimidate America and our allies,'' Bush said. ``Recent reporting suggests that despite their differences, these killers are working together to spread chaos and terror and fear.''

While Bush was speaking, a series of strong explosions were heard in central Baghdad. Earlier Tuesday, an explosion on a road frequently used by British troops killed six civilians in southern Iraq. And another occurred as U.S. soldiers were escorting Iraqi prisoners from jail to a court, injuring two Iraqi policeman and two prisoners.
<snip>

Extremists conspiring to rule a nation? That sounds vaguely familiar.

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:02 PM
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1. Bushco making sly references to his regime again, eh?
GO GEORGE!
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:03 PM
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2. Iraq is indeed overrun with foreign terrorists & extremists
They call themselves the "Coalition", and want to impose their fundamentalist capitalist regime on Iraq.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:03 PM
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3. At last, something I can agree with him on
Extremists named Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:04 PM
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4. why would secular Ba'athists want a Taliban-style theocracy?
Georgie, your bullshit isn't even GOOD bullshit!!!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:04 PM
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5. Ka-CHING! Dead on!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:28 PM
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16. the murkins will eat it up just like...
"our soldiers are dying for our freedoms" :puke:
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:04 PM
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6. The irony of this is truly mind-boggling.
"Foreign jihadists have arrived across Iraq's borders in small groups with the goal of installing a Taliban-like regime."

Where's that mirror?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:05 PM
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7. is Boykin going after Bremer's job?
:shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:10 PM
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:07 PM
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8. He should know....he appointed them! eom
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JM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:07 PM
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9. Brought to us by the partnership of Obvious & Duh
Mr. Bush, call it in the air...Pot or Kettle...

Later,
JM
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Neutrino Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:08 PM
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10. Bush is as "extreme" as "extreme" gets--
so, he is correct in his assertion that "extremists" want to rule.
Bush is the most extreme President in U.S. History.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:28 PM
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15. was he talking to
Cheney and Rummy when he read that speech?
:evilgrin:
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:09 PM
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11. Global Citizens Warn That Extremists Seek To Rule America and
The World! Arrest the Bush Mafia!
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hail to the thief Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:25 PM
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13. Will someone please explain to the chimp,
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 03:28 PM by hail to the thief
with crayons if necessary, the difference between a Secular State and a Fundamentalist/Extremist one? Saddam Hussein could not stand to be in the presence of the Taliban for more than a few seconds and vice versa. This is laughable on its face! so let me get this straight, the very man who was maniacal in his persecution of Fundamentalist Muslims in Iraq all of a sudden, presto changeo, turns into a cheerleader for the Taliban? This more than proves the assertion that this administration sees us as game to be used and manipulated at will. Further proof is the changing of the term "Body Bags" to "Transfer Tubes", my god is this not chilling! All the humanity has been entirely excised from the term, they won't even let you DIE with your humanity intact. These people are heartless, spiritless, soulless demons from hell.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:43 PM
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17. I've even seen people talk about women's rights in Iraq...
and mention burkhas and things like that!

Hello? Get a clue! Iraq and Afghanistan are NOTHING ALIKE!!

IIRC, wasn't the Wahabbi sect FORBIDDEN to practice in Iraq?

Of course, George would say that proves Saddam stifles religious freedom :eyes:
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:46 PM
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19. A few days ago I read a debate between Hitchens and Danner at Berkeley
in which Hitchens made the point that : "... Hussein's speeches were becoming "ever more demented and extreme and ever more Islamist in tone," suggesting that he was changing from a secular to fundamentalist in his thinking -- having a copy of Quran made with his blood and building new mosques does suggest that he at least was trying to win over the Islamist 'vote'. I don't for one believe he was becoming some kind of Iraqi talibani at all. In fact, I think a case could be made that Hussein was mellowing in his old age -- and didn't want to fight anybody.

Of course, if Hussein and the taliban weren't bedfellows before the war, I." sure they are now as in an" enemy of my enemy is my friend".
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:27 PM
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14. Because Bush* FAILED, just like he FAILED in Afghanistan. (n/t)
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:46 PM
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18. Oh. Ya mean those NEO-CON extremists?
For once I agree with AWOL, foreign U.S. neo-con extremists are attempting, and I repeat ATTEMPTING to rule EyeRack
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 03:51 PM
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20. remember THIS classic, textbook projection, from the SOTU?
"Throughout the 20th century, small groups of men seized control of great nations, built armies and arsenals, and set out to dominate the weak and intimidate the world."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/28/sotu.transcript.7/
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:33 PM
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21. Wolfowitz had a better line
"I think all foreigners should stop interfering in the internal affairs of Iraq"

Of course, the sick irony of his own remark went right over his own head.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:35 PM
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22. These are a group that believe no one can comprehend the glorious
plans and logics they have devised in their "think tanks."

Hubris.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:03 PM
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23. Funny. But not exactly breaking news. Hasn't the Bush Crime
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 11:03 PM by leesa
Family been seeking to rule Iraq since the eighties?
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:04 AM
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24. This one recent Bush quote says it all......
Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. GWB, 10.03.03
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