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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:21 PM
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Rawstory: NYT sues Pentagon on NSA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060227/ts_nm/security_nsa_nytimes_dc

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Times sued the U.S. Defense Department on Monday demanding that it hand over documents about the National Security Agency's domestic spying program.

The Times wants a list of documents including all internal memos and e-mails about the program of monitoring phone calls without court approval. It also seeks the names of the people or groups identified by it.

The Times in December broke the story that the NSA had begun intercepting domestic communications believed linked to al Qaeda following the September 11 attacks. That provoked renewed criticism of the way U.S.
President George W. Bush is handling his declared war on terrorism.

Bush called the disclosure of the program to the Times a "shameful act" and the U.S. Justice Department has launched an investigation into who leaked it.
-snip-
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:22 PM
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1. Yeah Boooooy!!!!!
Turnabout is fair play!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:24 PM
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2. Love it, love it, love it! Goose, meet gander! nt
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:24 PM
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3. effing librul media
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:25 PM
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4. The other shoe finally dropped.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:33 PM
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5. The NYT was really infiltrated and wiretapped wonder if it was
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 06:33 PM by lovuian
during the Plamegate thingy too...

:spank:
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 06:42 PM
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6. With Judith Miller working there? Come on, the NYT
held the wire-tapping story for a year at the request of the gangsters. They no longer have much credibility, imho.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:12 PM
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12. Zero zip nada in the credibility dept. eom
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:03 PM
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7. Good for the NYT!
I'm furious that this administration couldn't care less about spying on Americans and violating our rights, and is instead concerned about who ratted them out.

Shows their priorities are fubared.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:34 PM
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8. Hmmmm.......Interesting display of lovelost.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:36 PM
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9. Wow.
This is news! God bless the NYTimes... sometimes. :D
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:05 PM
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10. Re-watch Three Days of the Condor...NYT didn't publish then
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 08:09 PM by EVDebs
and are probably running a 'cover' operation to keep the really nasty stuff away from an unsuspecting public. Maybe the NYT will out itself in their ongoing Operation Mockingbird p.r. for Bush efforts.

(scroll down past the ads) Operation Mockingbird
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmockingbird.htm

The Three Days of the Condor link ? Try this

U.S. Planned to Seize Oil in '73 Crisis
www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0102-01.htm
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:11 PM
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11. Oh, BTW, how many months has the NYT been sitting on the wiretap story ?
before the printed it ? Long enough to do Bush another favor...
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:15 PM
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13. Thank you. NYT has zero credibility.
It was only after Miss Run Amok became the laughing stock of the rest of the journalistic world and blogosphere did they reluctantly admit that maybe she had been given too much leeway and that "mistakes were made." They are with Bushco all the way.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:18 PM
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14. NYT can only restore its cred by endorsing an IMPEACHMENT
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 08:24 PM by EVDebs
or IMMEDIATE RESIGNATION of Bush. Take yer pick gray lady. Won't go that far ? Maybe the eternal sobriquet of BIRDCAGE LINER/FISHWRAPPER will become commonplace and synonymous with NYT.

No endruns, not nifty lawsuits you know are going to be shitcanned anyway...

Harpers makes the case, while the NYTimes sits and twiddles
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2482898
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:42 PM
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15. NYT's call for impeachment wouldn't mean much
for me, they could restore credibility by doing what they should have been doing all along -- reporting the news. Not holding back for fear of Bush retribution or phony national security reasons. But aggressively seeking out and then immediately reporting the news.

Wouldn't that be nice for a change?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:24 AM
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18. But a 'clamor' for impeachment would silence the Freepers
Who were happy to get in on '51%' and are happy now with 34% poll numbers...they'd be happy with 10% or less (it doesn't mean a thing to them about 'rational' policies).

Bush should do what Nixon did or be prepared for a landslide come Nov. of new Dems in Congress willing to go for impeachment and the investigations that go with it. Think he'd pick resignation at that point and try to do a 'pardon' routine, like Ford and GHWB before him. They just want to head off the pack before they start nipping at his heels; it's starting now.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:52 AM
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19. Marketing Dpt
must have produced a report suggesting a slide in some leading areas of the readership. When everybody was for the war so was the NYT. This is not the kind of journalism I want. NYT is out of my list until holding itself accountable for backing down.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:53 AM
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20. yup- they had this story before the 2004 election
By holding it back, they only served to help Bush.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:14 PM
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16. NYT sues Pentagon over domestic spying
I love that MSM is finally calling it what it is- SPYING

The New York Times sued the U.S. Defense Department on Monday demanding that it hand over documents about the National Security Agency's domestic spying program.

The Times wants a list of documents including all internal memos and e-mails about the program of monitoring phone calls without court approval. It also seeks the names of the people or groups identified by it.

The Times in December broke the story that the NSA had begun intercepting domestic communications believed linked to al Qaeda following the September 11 attacks. That provoked renewed criticism of the way U.S. President George W. Bush is handling his declared war on terrorism.

Bush called the disclosure of the program to the Times a "shameful act" and the U.S. Justice Department has launched an investigation into who leaked it.

rest of article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060227/ts_nm/security_nsa_nytimes_dc&printer=1;_ylt=Aod1jQZJswkJMimqOLHV0TFg.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:14 PM
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17. Interesting development.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:59 AM
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21. CHENEY - TARGET IN NYT LAWSUIT AGAINST THE DOD / WIRETAP
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 09:43 AM by stop the bleeding
I hope that this is not a dupe, as far as I know Cheney wasn't mentioned in the original Reuters article featured on Yahoo.

On edit: I know the article isn't titled the way how I posted it, but when I came across it I just couldn't help but feeling like this was an important piece of news. Moderators if this is in violation I understand.



New York Times sues Department of Defense for eavesdrop documents

February 27, 2006, 10:32 PM EST

NEW YORK -- The New York Times sued the Department of Defense on Monday, saying the government has refused to turn over records related to its domestic warrantless surveillance program.

In a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, the Times asked the court to order the government to comply with a Freedom of Information Act request requiring it to release documents or provide a lawful reason why it cannot.

~snip~


The Times said a Dec. 16 letter to the Department of Defense requested all internal memos, e-mails and legal memoranda and opinions since Sept. 11, 2001, related to the National Security Agency spying program. The department is the parent agency of the NSA.

The newspaper said it asked for meeting logs, calendar items and notes related to discussions of the program, including meetings held by Vice President Dick Cheney and his staff with members of Congress and telecommunications executives.

It also requested all complaints of abuse or possible violations in the operations of the program or the legal rationale behind it.




http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--eavesdroppinglaws0227feb27,0,6727417.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:59 AM
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22. Dom't they usually just kill these stories a month before elections?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:59 AM
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23. Will this work? As the vp of US, can he be sued for this?
I surely hope so.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:59 AM
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25. Spiro Agnew was
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 09:49 AM by Canuckistanian
From Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiro_Agnew
On October 10, 1973, Agnew became the second Vice President to resign the office. Unlike John C. Calhoun, who resigned to take a seat in the Senate, Agnew resigned and then pled nolo contendere (no contest) to a criminal charge of tax evasion, part of a negotiated resolution to a scheme wherein he allegedly accepted $29,500 in bribes during his tenure as governor of Maryland. Agnew was fined $10,000 and put on three years' probation. He was later disbarred by the State of Maryland. His resignation triggered the first use of the 25th Amendment, as the vacancy prompted the appointment and confirmation of Gerald R. Ford as his successor. It remains one of only two times that the amendment has been employed to fill a Vice Presidential vacancy.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:59 AM
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24. Will Cheney Respect Democracy?
Probably not...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:00 AM
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26. I suppose there's always a first time
He seems to have made a career out of subverting laws and taking rights away.
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