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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:12 PM Original message |
Bird Flu, Spreading in Africa, May Touch Off Pandemic (cat) |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Africa seems to get the worst of everything |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Yes but I am thinking feral cat colonies |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. So do feral dogs, rats, foxes, opossums, raccoons, and other birds |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. May Touch Off Pandemic |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. I fear the loss of protein sources as much as the flu. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. I have a medical condition that demands a high protein diet-yet |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I only use meat as a flavoring, and only then because my wife |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't even want to think about my kitties |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Keep them indoors |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. So they might cull cats too in the netherlands |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. This thing has been all over Asia, and a cat in Germany is the first |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. German (domestic) cat gets deadly bird flue |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Here is an old article |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. and this |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. The links inside will tell you all you want to know about Avian Flu.... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. that's Henry Niman's site, and a VERY suspect source.... |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Not a legitimate source nt |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. How many patents do you have? How much work have.... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Who doesn't publish... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Hmmm. So patents don't count, eh? Interesting. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. A patent means nothing... |
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Karmakaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Real scientist my ARSE!!! |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
56. dude, for what it's worth, some of us are in fact also "real scientists.." |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Chickens and feral cats. More terra, terra, terra. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. That disease wasn't capable of creating a pandemic of any kind.... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. That comparison is overblown... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Perhaps |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Some of what you say is problematical... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. It is for all intents and purposes endemic now or will be soon |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I think what you are talking about... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I can't remember |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Yeah actually... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. There has been about one death a day in Indonesia lately |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Come back when they are confirmed... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I will |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I have no doubt... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Here is a report on a death a day lately |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. They definitely do not seem to have a handle on this... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-03-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Yes, it is not under control there |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-03-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Yep I saw this... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. "Not endemic in half the world"?? What maps are you using?... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I'm sorry... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Hey....if you can claim people becoming infected without any.... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I made no such claim... |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Thank you for the reality check |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. I think I'll stick with the analyses of Dr. Henry Niman.... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Niman is extremely controversial... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Can you name any of these "experts"? Have any of those.... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I do...and I will post them when I get home... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Some links... |
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Karmakaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. He's a quack... |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
57. 1918 was so deadly because of the technology of the time |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 05:00 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Ventilators would be in short supply in a true pandemic |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. A couple things... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Antibiotics won't be of much use |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. What do you suggest we do? Take what precautions? Cower? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Whatever you say. Do whatever winds your clock. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. If you take it seriously |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. The next pandemic influenza could originate in North America. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. There is considerable evidence that the 1918 Pandemic.... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. There is also evidence... |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
20. Hmmm, millions in Africa with an immune system weakened by HIV |
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Chico Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
52. I've heard rumors that the weakened immune systems (HIV, etc) will help |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-28-06 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
54. I am REALLY hoping that this does not become a trend................ |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Kestral |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I've got just ONE THING to say to cat owners in the US in case |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
59. First they came for the chickens ... |
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Theres-a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Stop! |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I don't know why anyone would ever depend on the government |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Yeah, public health officials never did anybody any good at all........... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-01-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Nice try, but I neither said nor implied anything of the kind |
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