Iraq Deaths Take Their Toll on Voters

[leftchick]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031113/ap_on_re_us/war_politics&cid=519&ncid=1480

<snip>"It was a mistake to get into Iraq (news - web sites). It's a mistake not to get out. Got that? Mistake! Mistake! Mistake!" the Republican says, jabbing the air with his smoking spear. "You know what I'd like to tell the president? Get out! Get going! Get gone! Now."

Ranting outside American Legion Post 261, some 250 miles from the polls and politics of Washington, Webb stands testament to a sentiment that could threaten President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election hopes. Death in Iraq is taking its toll politically as local media coverage of each body bag and burial drives home the costs of war.

More than 390 soldiers from 46 states, the District of Columbia and two U.S. territories have died in Iraq since the war began March 20. All 16 of the most critical political states — those Bush won or lost by 5 percentage points or less — have suffered fatalities. Five battleground states — Michigan, Ohio, Florida, Missouri and Pennsylvania — have lost 10 or more soldiers.

This steady drizzle of death is creeping into the American consciousness, causing even independent and Republican-leaning voters like Webb to question Bush's policies.

.......Wait till they find out who owns the voting machines with no verifiable paper ballot!

[JeebusH]

1. they're taking their toll with the Iraqis too

[billbuckhead]

4. And what about the wars effect on the most sacred thing in America?

The economy!

[el_gato]

2. i like this part

"I liked Bush. He comes off as a decent fellow, a good Christian. The whole works," says Webb, 77, who parachuted into France as part of the D-Day invasion.

"But as commander in chief? No way. Not now."


Fucking dumbass should have taken a little closer look before he voted for the warmongering machiavellian scumbag.

[knowledgeispower]

3. "He comes off like a good Christian"

That is all these morons think about. Meanwhile he can be the devil incarnate, ironicly enough, just as long as "comes off" like "a good Christian." Idiots.

[David__77]

6. "Fucking dumbass?" Not helpful...

I think that outlook is unhelpful to people--all it does it make people cynical. If you consider that people are systematically lied to about the world from the day one, I think that wide leeway must be givern in terms of rebolding people's thinking.

[el_gato]

9. you're probably right

but then I've always taken my vote seriously and have made the effort to look at people's actions rather than their words.

[KalicoKitty]

5. Think Bush will pull the troops from Iraq just before election time?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/13/politics/13PREX.html?hp


U.S. Moves to Speed Up Iraqi Vote and Shift of Power

Excerpts:

WASHINGTON, Nov. 12 — The Bush administration, moving up its timetable for self-government in Iraq and yielding to its own handpicked leadership there, has decided to try to hold elections in the first half of next year and turn civilian authority over to a temporary government before a new constitution is written, administration officials said Wednesday.

Increasing attacks on American and other foreign forces forced a rethinking of the administration's approach in recent days, the officials said, lending more urgency to the need for Iraqi self-rule by the middle of next year.

The new plan — a two-step process — was intended in part, they said, to change the political climate in Iraq and reduce the anger toward occupying forces that fosters support for violence, including attacks on American and other foreign forces, by demonstrating to Iraqis that the United States is moving more quickly to establish self-rule.

But it was not clear whether those behind the guerrilla attacks, whoever they are, would regard a changed political situation as significant if large numbers of American forces are still in Iraq.

[wryter2000]

7. Don't know

I have a feeling that if he waits until just before, it'll be too late to save his sorry hide. How many more GI's will have died by then?

[HFishbine]

8. "jabbing the air with his smoking spear."

Is this some kind of republican thing?

[el_gato]

10. republicans do all kinds of wierd things

it's like a cult you know

[arcane1]

11. rate this a 5!!!

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