Cheney Says Iraq Doubters Are Wrong (Situation Is Improving)

[sabra]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1751046

Cheney Says Iraq Doubters Are Wrong
Vice President Cheney Says Despite Tension in Iraq, the Situation Is Improving


SCOTT AIR FORCE BASE, Ill. Mar 21, 2006 (AP)— Vice President Dick Cheney asserted Tuesday that the situation in Iraq is continually getting better, taking on war critics while acknowledging misgivings many Americans have about the administration's strategy.

"Progress has not come easily but it has been steady and we can be confident going forward," the vice president told an enthusiastic military crowd.

...

He conceded: "There is no doubt that the situation in Iraq is still tense."

...

"At times you may wonder if your fellow citizens truly realize the extent of your achievements," Cheney said to the about 3,000 troops and family members gathered in a chilly hangar. "I want you to know that Americans do realize it and we do not take our military for granted."

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. At times I wonder if my fellow citizens know what a

fucking liar Cheney is. And a despicable human being.

[movonne]

14. I think we heard this last year, and he will keep on saying it until

we get it...who listens to this guy with his 18% approval rating..oh I know the 18% of morons that think this guy is A-OK..

[MADem]

2. Gathered in a chilly hangar?? Or herded there against their will???

Show up, stand for inspection, sit at attention, listen respectfully....or NO LIBERTY FOR YOU!!!!!!

[The Magistrate]

3. Meanwhile, In Other News ----

Satan announces Hell is not nearly so hot as people think....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[BOSSHOG]

4. Yo dick - I am not in the last throes of my doubt and you are a liar

"We don't take our military for granted?" If you are a republican or a "conservative" you do. You lie dick. Those americans support our troops with worn out magnets. They don't give a fuck about our troops, their deaths or peace or constitutional law or the truth. You are a scum of the earth lying hateful sack of shit dick.

[physioex]

5. As Usual.....

Dick is as accurate as his aim.....

[Kikosexy2]

6. If that's so...

then The Big Dick shouldn't have a problem flying over to Iraq and tour the country without bodyguards/military, right?....Why would anyone believe such a dick as Dick..

[tabasco]

39. He and Bush both need to go over there and model for the statues.

Fox News said when they tore down Saddam's statue that they would be building statues to Bush and Cheney.

[Mithras61]

7. Memo to Cheney...

When a country's leaders say that the country is in a civl war, why would you waste your time insisting it isn't unless you're trying to appear to be in denial?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/03/19/uirq.xml&sSheet=/portal/2006/03/19/ixportaltop.html

Former Iraqi PM insists civil war has broken out
(Filed: 19/03/2006)

Iraq is in the grip of civil war, according to the country's former prime minister.


Allawi: 'sectarianism will spread'

Iyad Allawi warned that the cycle of violence would soon spiral completely out of control, and Europe and the US would not be spared the consequences.

British ministers have repeatedly denied civil war is either imminent or inevitable in Iraq.

But Mr Allawi told the BBC: "It is unfortunate that we are in civil war. We are losing each day as an average 50 to 60 people throughout the country, if not more.

"If this is not civil war, then God knows what civil war is."

Edited to add more text from the article...

[LynnTheDem]

32. It's Washington Dick again. "there is no civl war ..." *kaboom*

Over 70% Americans belive Iraq is in/heading to all-out civil war; the more these stupid MFers, Washington Dick and Washington George, deny what's so obvious even to MFing stupid rightwingnuts, the more Americans become aware of the fact that Washington Dick & Washington George are stupid, ignorant, incompetent, lying MFing assholes.


Keep it up, Washington Dick & Washington George!

[monktonman]

8. I want to believe

I watched the meet the press (or whatever)interview last sunday and of course big dick said the same thing about progress. I want to believe it, I honestly do.
The thing is that they can never come up with any examples; not ONE.
Show me how things are improving. Please.
until then I'll just believe my own lying eyes when they see dead bodies and injured children and very little or no progress.
Again PLEASE DICK, MAKE ME BELIEVE!!

[bunkerbuster1]

13. Who doesn't?

Seriously, there isn't a liberal I know who actually wants this shitty situation to remain shitty.

Point is, even if the War Fairy came down, sprinkled magic fairy dust all over Iraq and got everyone to stop shooting and blowing each other up, the Iraq occupation would still be an abject failure. The Administration seems to think we have terrible memories, that we've forgotten about how they'd claimed it would all be a cakewalk, and basically self-financed.

well, we haven't.

[Kierkegaard]

9. There is considerably less doubt that Tiny Dick

has nothing to lose and everything to gain by lying about the war in Iraq.

Hmmm. Now who should we trust? Pretty much everyone in the free world, or a lying scumbag vice president sporting a lower approval rating than e.coli? I think you can divine your own answer here...

[PVK]

10. Douchebag chickenhawk draft dodger.

But he cited the skills of U.S. soldiers, the desire of Iraqis to be free, and strides in training Iraqi security forces as reasons to be heartened about Iraq now and in the future.

"At times you may wonder if your fellow citizens truly realize the extent of your achievements," Cheney said to the about 3,000 troops and family members gathered in a chilly hangar. "I want you to know that Americans do realize it and we do not take our military for granted."

You have a lot of nerve, Dick.

[Bridget Burke]

11. So the Republicans' 2008 Convention will be in Baghdad!

(One could only wish.)

[monktonman]

16. Great idea!

[Roland99]

12. Electricity/oil below pre-invasion levels? Bombs/Murders/Kidnappings up?

By golly gosh he's right!!

[pinniped]

15. It sure is, asshole.

I now present today's headline:

* raises possibility of years-long Iraq presence

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/bush_administration

[electropop]

17. Hey Tricky Dick, keep it up!

Please continue to go out every day and advertise your most spectacular failure. We appreciate the help.

[wookie294]

18. Dick: The man who doesn't know insurgent attacks are at record highs

Pentagon report: Insurgent attacks hit postwar high

ARLINGTON, Va. — Insurgent attacks in Iraq reached a postwar high in the four months preceding Jan. 20, according to a Iraq progress report issued Friday by the Pentagon.

More than 550 attacks took place in Iraq from Aug. 29, 2005, to Jan. 20, 2006, according to the latest “security and stability” report the Defense Department is required to send lawmakers every four months.

Speaking to Pentagon reporters Friday, Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs said that the survey’s conclusions “were not good,” but that “loving us is not what it’s about.”

Awareness of the relative unpopularity of U.S. troops “is one of the reasons we want to turn over the battlespace” to the Iraqi security forces, Rodman said.

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=35298

[coalition_unwilling]

19. Brings to mind that Beatles' classic: "Getting Better"

McCartney: I have to believe it's getting better, a little better all the time.

Lennon: It can't get much worse.

No matter how often the liars repeat their lies, no matter how shrilly they repeat them, they cannot change lies into truth. The Iraqi resistance, a rag-tag body of irregulars, has defeated the most powerful military in human history. Now it's just a question of how many more people will die in the pursuit of a delusion.

[951-Riverside]

20. Hey! He forgot to click his shoes 3 times!

[Generator]

21. Is this purpose of our military

to give Iraq "freedom"? I thought our military was to defend me. Is Bush president of Iraq? Why are we there? Why? What does Iraq have to do with me? It is no threat to me. It has no WMD. It has no ties to 9/11. Why don't I have one represenative to call this sham war the pointless sham war it is?

Why are my tax dollars being spent by the billions on a country that isn't America and has nothing to do with me? This and a few other questions that no one ever asks in America. I'm sick to death of Iraq. I know it's not "liberal" to say all this. I'm sure many felt this way when the word was Vietnam for twenty years. Why can't we find a populist Dem to dare to say this? Please oh please. Bring the troops home to defend me and let Iraq do whatever it needs to do. We can't save them. All we can do is continue to make it worse under the guise of stopping their ultimate civil war that will happen anyway.

[Jacobin]

22. He said that TODAY?

Does he have the type of dementia where you think if you say something a lot it will come true?

Or is he just a lying, pigfucking thief getting rich off a war he started?

Wait, nevermind, I know the answer

[HuffleClaw]

23. he doesn't really have his heart in it anymore.

he used to rant and thunder about this stuff. lately, he's been coming across more like a whiny kid.

[Jack Rabbit]

24. How to tell when Cheney is lying . . .

His lips are moving.

[EFerrari]

25. Beth says Cheney is a lying sack of excrement. n/t

[mwooldri]

26. And this from the man who said "The insurgency is in its last throes"?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[brooklynite]

27. Sing it, Mama Cass!

And it's getting better
Growing stronger
warm and wilder
Getting better everyday, better everyday

Cass Elliot

[mwooldri]

28. And of course some good did come out of Hitler's regime...

... the only two things I can think that are good to have come out of the Nazi regime is the German autobahn system, and the Volkswagen Beetle. And even with the Beetle it took the Americans to recognize that building Beetles would help get Germany back on its feet after WWII.

I am not saying for one minute that the good the Nazi regime did counteracts their bad. What I am trying to say here (and probably unsuccessfully) is that although our boys over there are doing their best to do good, (and good is getting done and of course it's not getting reported) there's too much bad going on to make it completely unnoticeable. Does it matter how many new schools get built when the students are too afraid to go to school, fearing for being blown up - just for going to school? Does it matter that new hospitals are built, when the doctors that would staff them are leaving Iraq, again fearing for their lives?

From what I can gather, the US Army appears to be a relic of the Cold War. It's geared up still to fight a major battle against a major aggressive superpower. I'm sorry, I am not a military specialist, and it might be my nationality clouding my opinion here, but I feel that the British forces in southern Iraq have on the whole (and yes they have had their problems too) done a better job than the Americans and are better trained for this kind of situation than the American forces. Feel free to debate and debunk this until the cows come home (I may well be wrong. Please correct me!) but I feel that the US forces were prepared to fight War A when in fact it's War B and it's a whole different war.

Can I see the good that the Bush regime has done in Iraq? Well, deposing Saddam was a good thing - I don't think anyone can disagree that Saddam was a dictator and didn't need to be in control of Iraq. The way his administration went about it was all wrong. Containment in Iraq was working to some extent - but the sanctions on the other hand was not (and was in fact damaging the indiginous populations). Yes, the inspections would probably have proven that Saddam didn't have WMD. Yes, Saddam would have probably declared that the US's failure to invade was a 'victory'. But we could have worried about more precious things. Like the war back home. The war on poverty.

Anyway, rant over. Thanks for listening.

Mark.

[Javaman]

29. hey, shut up mr. 18% when you say something based in reality,

I'll let you know.

[Dudley_DUright]

33. Mr. 18% is going for negative numbers, a first in polling history

[daleo]

30. Cheney on quail hunting

"At times you may wonder if your fellow hunters truly realize the extent of your achievements," Cheney said...

He conceded: "There is no doubt that the situation at the ranch is still tense."

[LynnTheDem]

31. "situation is improving"... ROTFLMAO!!!

What's worse; that he KNOWS he's lying his fucking ass off & that Americans are THAT STUPID to believe his bullshit...or that he actually believes his bullshit?!

"situation is improving"... :wow: :wow: :wow:

[Buck Rabbit]

34. Well, if Michael Jackson or OJ Simpson were giving the speech

more people might accept the message, according to the polls. On the other hand he is a more credible spokesperson than Paris Hilton! You Go Dick! ... no really just go.

[madmark]

35. our troops have been taking bullets for the civilian leadership, and

they will continue to do so until they are ordered out because that is their duty. What does the military doing its duty have to do with a civilian leadership making horrendous decisions, Cheney? The former does not justify or validate the latter.

[superconnected]

36. gosh, it's worse than we all imagined.

I know this because dick said its fine.

[fujiyama]

37. You know who these guys remind me of?

Simpsons fans will remember that episode where the pig goes flying: "It's just a little airborn, it's still good, it's still good. It's just a little wet. It's still good.".

Regarding the war - It's just a little bloody. It's still good. It's just a bit blow up. It's still good.

[Kenergy]

38. Screw you Cheney...you're an a**hole extraordinaire n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. I can honestly say that I hate him more than I hate **.

:grr:

[yellowcanine]

50. Big Time! Heh. He can go f**k himself also.

[yorkiemommie1]

40. And reindeer really can fly

and, Snarly-mouth, you above all 'take the military for granted', you creep.

[yellowcanine]

41. Dick "Bagdad Bob" Cheney gives another upbeat report. But at least

Bagdad Bob was entertaining. Cheney is just starting to get on everyone's nerves.

[Disturbed]

42. If the US had a 70% Unemployment rate...

as Iraq has, this Sociopath and his Sock Puppet would say progress is being made.

[DanCa]

43. This coming from a guy who can't tell the difference between ...

a quail and his hunting buddy.

[salin]

44. DIck: I don't care about credibility - I am the VP and can do and say

as I like.

[Bassic]

45. Hey Iraq looks like a breeze.

Bringing democracy to them looks at easy as hunting quails eh Dick? :sarcasm:

Oh wait..... :banghead:

[Frank Cannon]

47. Cheney reminds me of one of those demented old men...

you often see in nursing homes. You know, the guy sitting off in the corner in his wheelchair, talking to some imaginary person named "Bob" and saying the same crazy shit over and over and over again, totally oblivious to the fact that no one's listening.

[Brooklyn Michael]

48. What color is the sky in your world, Dick?

[silvermachine]

49. Well if Cheney said it...

...it must be true.

[kurth]

51. Go fuck yourself, major-league asshole

[SLCPUNK]

52. Improving =

Civil War