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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:48 PM
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Microsoft to Delay Windows Vista Release
SEATTLE - Microsoft Corp. will delay the consumer release of its new Windows operating system until January 2007, missing the holiday sales season and throwing some PC makers and retailers into turmoil.

The delay in Windows Vista — caused by Microsoft needing more time to enhance security and other functions — will come as a blow to Microsoft partners who were looking forward to a new operating system to boost holiday sales.

Windows Vista is Microsoft's first major update to the company's flagship operating system since Windows XP was released in late 2001.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060321/ap_on_hi_te/microsoft_windows_3
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BIG Surprise. Buy a Mac.

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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:50 PM
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1. ...vista...
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 07:51 PM by superconnected
:puke:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:12 PM
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13. pardon me while I join you
:puke:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:57 PM
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2. Tiger
Purrrrrr !
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:01 PM
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4. LOL.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:43 AM
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28. Hee hee.
What's "Windows"? ;-)
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:55 AM
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32. Tripled paned windows filled with argon gas and coated with low e-glazing?
They are great, they lower my energy bill over having no windows by like 23958236039736%. O8)
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:14 AM
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34. but that kind of window works. ;) nt
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:57 PM
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3. gee, what a surprise!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:05 PM
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5. Here's the Inforworld article.
Microsoft, however, plans to release Vista to business partners through its volume licensing program in November this year

By Elizabeth Montalbano, IDG News Service

March 21, 2006
The broad availability of the Windows Vista client OS has been pushed back to next year, Microsoft Corp. Co-President of the Platform and Services Division Jim Allchin announced Tuesday.

Microsoft, however, plans to release Vista to business partners through its volume licensing program in November 2006, he said in a conference call. This will enable them to begin the deployment process of the OS throughout their business.

In an interview in January, Allchin said he would delay releasing Vista if the OS did not reach a standard of quality with which he was comfortable. In a conference call Tuesday, he said that Microsoft wanted to give customers a firm date for when the company could deliver Vista broadly, and so decided to push back the release to January of next year.
<snip>

http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/03/21/76674_HNvista2007full_1.html
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 09:44 AM
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33. Volume licensing is typically adapted by big business slowly.
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 09:46 AM by onehandle
They won't have it budgeted until a year or two or several years later in many cases.

And Business is not going to take a chance on an OS that they won't even trust to consumers.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:11 PM
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6. I have beta tested it.
It is beta software, but my experience hasn't been good. I am using a 3Ghz machine with 512Mb of memory. The default install blew way past that. The machine was unusable. It got better when I turned off the new graphics mode. Microsoft is trying to do some nice things with organization and look and feel. So far I think they are missing the boat. It doesn't appear to have the stability and usability of XP or the seamlessness and sophistication of OS X. IE7 is a poor Firefox ripoff. I don't remember MS ever putting out a poor major release. I am afraid that this may be the time. They were holding off cool new features including WinFS because they wouldn't be ready in time. Now they are pushing back the entire OS. Not good.

One bad thing about Microsoft is that they will put out half assed software to make an internal deadline. Vista appeared to be headed down that route. It may be worse than I first thought.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:13 PM
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7. What, you forgot about Windows ME? n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:13 PM
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That was not a major release.
Me was Windows 98 SP3
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:18 PM
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10. I thought that ME was Windows 98 after the script kiddies got through...
with it. BTW: that reminds, WTF was Bill smoking to release that piece of shit?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:25 PM
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20. I don't know.
It was the most peculiar OS release ever. It was repackaged crap with a few new icons. It came out about a year before XP. I guess it was a nice way to release a bunch of security fixes.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:14 PM
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15. Windows 95, first release, was unstable
but they released it anyway, and set an industry standard for releasing buggy software. :grr:

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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:19 PM
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17. Windows 95, the longest beta testing on record. n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:04 PM
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24. Windows ME is EXTREMELY unstable. Trust me. I deal with it every day.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:39 AM
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30. oh, I agree completely
it's a piece of garbage, and having been a computer lab manager, I totally understand working with it on a daily basis.

Windows 95, however, was released before that. :hi:

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Lauri Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:51 PM
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40. ME = Mistake Edition
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:02 PM
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23. Hey, I have Windows ME. You mean computers don't HAVE to
be like this??????

Mine can't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. Other than that, it suffices. But I was just getting used to the idea of getting a new computer with XP and now they have this NEW thing???No way.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:54 AM
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25. XP is actually very good.
But I can see how this would be discouraging.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:48 PM
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38. MAC lovers are always going to tell you
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 12:50 PM by FlaGranny
XP is crap. What is crap is trying to find programs for MAC and other operating systems. XP is great! It is easy to use and stable. Mine runs for weeks and weeks and never needs a reboot. I have never had a problem with viruses or worms, because I have up-to-date antivirus software and I have good software (brains) in my own head. I'm a totally and completely trouble-free user of XP since it first came out.

Edit: Windows (the first one), Windows 95, Windows ME, different story - lousy programs by comparison. Also I like XP better than 2000.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:47 AM
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29. XP is crap. Save your money.
I keep a Windows box around for the odd contract requiring its use, but I do everything else--worry-free--on a Mac.

If you've had a bad experience running Microslop, drop by your Apple store and see a Mac. First step toward saving yourself computing headaches!
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:02 PM
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22. A friend of mine beta tested it too.
He found that his system ran like slug with Vista Beta at anything under 2GB or RAM.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:18 AM
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35. I have too.
:puke:
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:13 PM
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8. Don't worry, it come out bundled with Duke Nukem Forever. n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:15 PM
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9. Vista...
...Cruiser.



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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:21 PM
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18. That's a nice car ( Oldsmobile )
I had a girlfiend whose father had one. You were king of the road in that thing

Then gas went up from 28 cents a gallon.

I think it got 9 miles to the gallon with a 455 CID engine in 1973
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:16 PM
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19. Sweet!
My Dad had a 1970 Cutlass. I see it's Ghost in that Cruiser.

My Mom's hand-me-down 1972 '98 Oldsmobile was my first car. Its 455 V8 was my TransAm killer in the late '70s.

The Death of Oldsmobile was the Death of General Motors.


BUY A MAC!

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:49 PM
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11. Maybe it will be Microsoft that attacks Christmas this year.
:rofl:

But seriously, would you buy a NEW PC with an old Operating System that going to be replaced in 3 months with the newest from MS....
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:56 PM
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12. Hell NO! Why get bloatware that gives...
Microsoft almost total control of your computer through DRM and shit? Fuck that, I gave up on Windows Months ago, my last version was XP and now its Linux for me!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:13 PM
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14. Exactly.
Vista may well be the M$ release that firmly establishes Linux on the desktop.

It's kinda sad. Kinda. Because Windows XP Professional x64 is a good OS. But the peripheral manufacturers are not supporting it with drivers, in any real way.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 09:18 PM
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16. True, and Linux is getting better and better...
especially in regards to features and usability, I haven't messed with the command line on the Ubuntu Linux box I have now yet, and I have been running the Beta version of the next release(Dapper Drake). It surprisingly stable, though some features aren't working a hundred percent yet, but at least I haven't had a crash yet, and also, the feature set matches that of Vista, at least.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:57 PM
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21. I'll wait until it's fixed and renamed Micsrosoft Windows 2010
Then I might consider upgrading from Windows 2000, which is the only good OS version Microsoft ever made.

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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:42 PM
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39. Totally agree on the Win2000 thing. nt
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:00 AM
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26. Bill will just have to delay Christmas for a month
Shouldn't be much a problem for him
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:09 AM
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27. They should have gone UNIX.
Do like Apple, have the core open source and the UI proprietary.
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:50 AM
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31. I remember a friend who was a UNIX propeller head...
He bought a powerbook (PPC) and gleefully showed it to me saying "This is the first PC that you take out of the box and use!" Because it had OSX and he was such a UNIX geek, I said "Where's the command prompt?"

please understand: as I see it, I've had Mac friends criticizing me for years about the command prompt, telling me how lame it was... they also made fun of the Intel processor: now-a-days, though, you can put on a black turtleneck and deny any-and-all of that... not unlike some pundits and leaders on 'the otherside'.

So he goes to invoke the command prompt, saying "you're gonna LOVE this!" and the notebook locked up, tighter than Rush Limbaugh's brain!

He walked away, muttering!

Tut-tut
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:37 AM
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36. Hey! I'm wearing a black turtleneck!
I love my eMac, it does everything I need it to do and I don't need no steeenking command prompt.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:21 PM
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37. I've never had problems with using the command line.
I use it nearly every day. I have folding@home running in the terminal right now.

I've been using OSX since day one, not once have I experienced any problems like you described. I'm glad they have changed from tsch to bash. That was one of the first things I did was to change the default to bash. Not that one is better than the other, but because bash is what I used in Linux.


yeah, we were PPC fans, but IBM and Motorola has been dropping the ball on innovation and supply. The love affair with the platform has cooled over the years. Most Mac users have accepted the change to Intel because they do pay attention to the realities.


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