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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:38 PM
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Jill Carroll Statement
Jill Carroll Statement

http://www.csmonitor.com/earlyed/early_world040106.htm

RAMSTEIN AIRBASE, GERMANY — I'm so happy to be free and am looking forward to spending a lot of time with my family. I want to express my deep appreciation to all the people who worked so long and hard for my release. I am humbled by the sympathy and support expressed by so many people during my kidnapping.

In the past few days, the US military and officials have been extremely generous, and I am grateful for their help. Throughout this ordeal, many US agencies have committed themselves to bringing me safely home.

My colleagues at The Christian Science Monitor have worked ceaselessly to secure my release, and worked with security consultants to do so. Many other news organizations, both inside and outside of Iraq, as well as many officials from Iraq and other countries, worked hard to bring about my freedom.

<snip>

During my last night in captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me they would let me go if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and wanted to go home alive. I agreed.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:41 PM
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1. Why does Jill have to apologize for surviving?
She did what she had to do to get free. She kept her head. She is free. End of story.
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Never Forget Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:53 PM
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5. Stupid fools...
I've read of some jerks claiming that her kidnapping was a hoax. I suppose the murder of Jill's interpreter was a hoax too. :eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:54 PM
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13. A few DUers have also expressed that, too
Crazy... she's a brave young woman who did admirably in captivity.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:55 PM
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38. I should consider myself lucky ...
I suppose I should consider myself lucky that I hadn't read the relevant posts denigrating Ms. Carroll young lady or else I probably would have gotten myself banned from DU (at the very least).

Once again, knee-jerk, flag-waving, patriotism trumps critical thought and civility...

You're right. "Crazy" is an apt description.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:08 PM
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8. Because the Radical Right says she is ungrateful
They currently run the country. For now. :)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:31 PM
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14. you said it well,
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:32 PM
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15. Fox just said she is 'changing' her story.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:12 PM
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23. Faux that's sponsored by UConn? Wait til I let my state rep know where
our CT dollars are going!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:42 PM
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2. False statements
So who made those false statements? The right wing press?

Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: That I refused to travel and cooperate with the US military and that I refused to discuss my captivity with US officials. Again, neither is true.

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:44 PM
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3. Thank you for posting this...
I hope that Jonah Goldberg and Charles Johnson read this and CHOKE! Fucking imbeciles!:grr:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:05 PM
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7. BWHAHAHA - Jonah Goldberg's backtrack
I went over to his site and this is all he has to say. THis is posted under a copy of her statement:

Me: In all sincereity: good for her. I take Carroll at her word and hope nothing but the best for her. I'm sure it was a terrible ordeal and I think, barring some major revelation this should put an end to the criticism of her. Leave her be.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/06_03_26_corner-archive.asp
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:19 PM
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17. +It's time to nail Joonah Goldberg's ass to the wall along with all the
RW smearboaters, FOX "News", Imus, Hannity, and Limbaugh.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 08:34 PM
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18. in all "sincereity"
he is a friggin' imbecile
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:47 PM
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4. I glad that she is alive and well.
Of course the freepers want her dead and dishonored.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:02 PM
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6. I never believed her first statement anyway....
While they were holding her, a tape was released and in this tape she was crying and pleading for her life.

I know that they would have to tell her some pretty scary stuff to make her act like that.

Anyway, that's why I never believed the first story.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:11 PM
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9. Can't you see the slime KKKarl Rove
chuckling in the background at the "little distraction" he created. The GOP Dirty Tricks Committee is working overtime. KKKarl must be on steriods or meth.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:14 PM
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10. Note - she admits she was threatened . . . but does not change her
story that she wasn't tortured or harmed . . . I wonder how many freepturds would shit themselves and fold at the first sight of nail clippers . . .
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:28 PM
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11. Being threatened with death
sound pretty harmful to me. I can't imagine how awful it must have been for her not knowing whether or not she would survive another day; waking up to that fear for 3 months.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:49 PM
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12. I imagine that seeing Alan Enwiya murdered
during her capture was pretty threatening too. I have no doubt that she feared for her life.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:09 PM
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22. Agreed. This is one young woman who kept her head while she feared for her
life. IMO, she deserves nothing but credit for her courage during and after what she endured. As far as I'm concerned, she was as brave and is as well spoken as they come.
:yourock:
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:38 AM
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37. The fact that she wasn't tortured or harmed doesn't give the kidnappers
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 11:41 AM by Mike Daniels
any claims for humanity.

They still shot her interpreter in cold blood and that says all I need to know about the people that took her hostage.

The only reason she's alive is because the kidnappers knew they'd destroy their cause by harming her in any way. Nothing alturistic about it.

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:33 PM
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16. More facts will come out; just glad she's back safe and sound
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:41 PM
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19. Carroll disavows statements against U.S.
By Matt Moore, Associated Press Writer | April 1, 2006

RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany --Protected by the U.S. military and far from the country where she had been held hostage, Jill Carroll strongly disavowed statements she had made during captivity in Iraq and shortly after her release, saying Saturday she had been repeatedly threatened.

In a video, recorded before she was freed and posted by her captors on an Islamist Web site, Carroll spoke out against the U.S. military presence. But in a statement Saturday, she said the recording was made under threat. Her editor has said three men were pointing guns at her at the time.

"During my last night in captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me I would be released if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and wanted to go home alive. So I agreed," she said in a statement read by her editor in Boston.

"Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not."

...

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/04/01/former_hostage_carroll_happy_to_be_here/
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:41 PM
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20. She isn't a military officer or anything, she could do whatever she
felt she needed to do to get the hell out of there. She is very lucky imho.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:23 AM
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21. Jill will be a long time healing from this ordeal
I'm grateful that she got out alive and in one piece. That's big.

But the trauma of living like that for three months and of being coerced into making those videos, could well be with her forever.

I hope the good folks who wish her well make their thoughts known... Some of the broadcasts I caught today seemed to indicate that her colleagues get it.

Hekate

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Caria Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:50 PM
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24. Anyone who criticizes this woman
has had a nice, secure life. I do not see how anyone who has ever felt the threat of violence, even for a few minutes, could possibly fault her.

This in no way compares to what Jill Carroll has just gone through, but when I was attacked I said things I did not mean & I made promises I had no intention of keeping. Because of that, I'm alive and the criminal who attacked me is in jail.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:52 PM
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25. why does anyone believe any of this?
Rule 109
hear everything, believe nothing

we just don't know what really happened
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 10:37 PM
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26. So you don't believe she was held hostage?
Are you equally skeptical of everything, or do you have a reason for not believing it?
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:10 PM
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27. this is just, not knowable
could be anything.
I have no specific reason to doubt,
but I don't believe it either
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New Government Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:26 PM
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28. Hmmmmm
Couldn't this be said about almost anything? I mean, literally, anything - that you don't personally witness and have a first-hand account?
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:58 PM
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30. consider, self-serving ex-culpable claims
my skeptisism is that, there may have been some colusion,
at one time, between the 'kidnapers', and 'kidnapees'

I just don't know.

after the fact statement, sometimes mean something,
sometimes they don't.

I certainly believe one of the four, is dead.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:47 AM
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32. "ex-culpable"?
Yes, more Right Wing talking points.

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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:56 AM
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33. when released, why say anything?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:15 AM
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34. One wonders why some people....
Say anything at all. Ever.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 04:57 PM
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39. She was "released" into the custody of the Sunni Iraqi Islamic Party.
(Not exactly a neutral third party.) They said wanted to make a video "for their records," not for broadcast. It's not inconceivable that she did not feel entirely free to safely refuse or that she could speak freely at that time while in the custody of the IIP.

The IIP then played their exclusive "interview" on its TV channel and the international news media picked that up and played it over and over, giving the impression that Carroll had given a news conference after being released.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:57 PM
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29. she's being excoriated for one reason.
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 12:09 AM by HuffleClaw
she's showed that the iraqis are HUMANS, not the evildoing animals the press would have us believe.

on edit: as the story points out: "Unlike most Europeans, Americans are convinced that they are at war with a relentless and inhumane enemy."
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 08:55 AM
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31. She apologizes for being free. What does that tell you about
the right wing? This story is simply ridiculous. I just can't understand what the fuck these morans are thinking. I'd like to see how they would hold up to months of captivity and uncertain survival. God damn evil pawns.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:16 AM
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35. Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me anything about the right wing...
That I didn't already know. And I can hear some of those talking points right here at DU.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:54 AM
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36. Are you serious?
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 10:54 AM by Bassic
I haven't seen them yet, and I'm kind of comforted by that.


Edit: I've been spelling like a Freeper.
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