US occupation of Iraq will end on June 30, 2004(US troops will be invited)

[NNN0LHI]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20031116/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_us_occupation&cid=1514&ncid=1480

BAGHDAD (AFP) - The occupation of Iraq will end on June 30, 2004, but US-led coalition troops will remain "at the invitation of the Iraqis," a top coalition official said.

[qanda]

1. This is the most ridiculous spin on occupation

That I have ever heard! I guess the Republicans need new talking points going into the election. "We're not occupying Iraq, we're fulfilling the request of some friends."

[4dsc]

2. This is nothing new

the neocons's have been stating they want permenent bases in Iraq for quite a long time. I heard Newt states this a couple of weeks ago.. Different spin though as US troop casualities are getting way out of hand..

[0007]

16. Gotta have a base to go to Iran, halfta have a stronghold....

We give democracy and then take the oil and we want the folks in the Middle East to love us, 'eh?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

3. Sounds like Vietnam's "Peace with Honor".

[young_at_heart]

4. Timed perfectly for the election

News footage of important-looking changes will be in the ads. Our commnander will have achievead his goal....democracy and freedom (he keeps saying over and over our wonderful freedom is).

[gristy]

6. Bush has very little control over what is now happening in Iraq

And his influence is likely to be no greater next summer/fall. Things might be better, they might be worse. But bush's leverage is getting smaller all the time. All these "plans" are vapor plans. To be updated and changed many times between now and next summer.

[DivinBreuvage]

5. Curiously enough...

that day will mark the 70th anniversary of the "Night of the Long Knives", in which Hitler and the SS broke the power of the Storm Troopers and "liquidated" a number of political opponents.

Françoise

[alcuno]

7. I, too, could be a neocon.

Several of us were saying this last year; install a puppet government who invites us to stay and build permanent bases, help with the oil, and maybe offers to pay us for our help.

However, neocon plans have a high probability for failure because they are based on ideology, not facts.

[barbaraann]

27. That is a very inspiring post.

"...neocon plans have a high probability for failure because they are based on ideology, not facts."

And that seems to me to be a perfect definition of insanity.

[lark]

29. Profits and power matter the most

I disagree. I don't think that ideology rules them, unless you count profits and power! They really don't care about anything other than those 2 - all the rest is window dressing to obtain the desired results of profits for contributors so they can retain power and make even more money.

lark

[rocktivity]

8. There isn't an exit strategy because the strategy is NOT to exit

But to use Iraq as a base for attacking other Mideast countries. The least the Bush Regime can do is honest about it.


rocknation

[mediaman007]

9. Where's Condoleeza Rice?...I thought she was in charge of Iraq

This administration has changed plans so often, it forgot about Condi, whom it put in charge about 3 weeks ago.

Hope they remember to tell her that the Iraqis will be running the show.

[salin]

10. right... prepare for a Nixonian "secret war"

where we publically "withdraw" troops from one country - while shipping a greater number to neighboring countries.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. Leaving chaos in our wake

wherever we go.

This is how Bu$h and their pals enrich themselves. It's the same pattern over and over again. Overthrow the leader of any country that does not cooperate, destroy their infrastructure and then move on to the next mission. Bu$hCo's slogan should be, 'How to destroy a culture for fun and profit."

[0rganism]

12. Holiday in Cambodia, anyone?

So you've been to school for a year or two
And you know you've seen it all
In daddy's car thinkin' you'll go far
Back east you type don't crawl
Play ethnicky jazz to parade your snazz
On you five grand stereo
Braggin' that you know how the niggers feel the cold
And the slum's got so much soul
It's time to taste what you most fear
Right Guard will not help you here
Brace yourself, my dear
Brace yourself, my dear
It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough kid, but it's life
It's a holiday in Cambodia
Don't foget to pack a wife

You're a star - belly sneech you suck like a leech
You want everyone to act like you
Kiss ass while you bitch so you can get rich
But your boss gets richer off you
Well you'll work harder with a gun in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Slave for soldiers 'til you starve
Then you head is skewered on a stake
Now you can go where people are one
Now you can go where they get things done
What you need, my son...
What you need, my son...
Is a holiday in Cambodia
Where people dress in black
A holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll kiss ass or crack
Pol Pot,
Pol Pot,
Pol Pot,
Pol Pot etc.

And it's a holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll do what you're told

A holiday in Cambodia
Where the slum's got so much soul

(Dead Kennedys, Holiday In Cambodia)

[rocktivity]

13. INVITED to stay by the Iraqis? WHAT Iraqis?

The ones the Bush regime have already placed in power, or the ones who will be in the provisional goverment that supposed to taking over as of June 30? Who are they, did the Iraqi people pick them, and HOW DOES BUSH KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO INVITE THE TROOPS TO STAY?


rocknation

[Capt_Nemo]

14. That was the Soviets' claim in Afghanistan

They were "invited" as "guests" to help the afghans against a
"counter-revolutionary" coup.

The parallels are striking!

[Dover]

15. Just an attempt to buy time and some peace......and the Iraqis will

never buy it. Either do I.

[BonjourUSA]

17. it's a marvel of soviet rhetoric

USRR told the same bullshit for justifing the invasion of Hungary, Tchecoslovaquia, Afghanistan....

[nolabels]

26. Sad, funny and true at the same time, I can't stand how stupid it is

Is there realy a job market for Freezer salesmen on the Arctic ocean beach fronts?

[cliss]

18. Yeah, well the "guests"

will be treated quite impolitely by their "hosts". They're about to eject their ungrateful guests.

There's an old saying, 'don't wear out your welcome'. I'd say the US has worn out its welcome by now.

I wonder how long this little phrase will stick, "we'll stay at the invitation of the Iraqis". About 1 week, is my guess.

I wonder how many buildings will be blown up by next June.

[doubles]

19. Just in time for elections...... nt

[BonjourUSA]

20. Seven months... A very very long time

[stickdog]

21. Damn. Just like Vichy France. (nt)

[PurityOfEssence]

22. Ah, the end of the second quarter; that's the way to run world conquest

Of course, we're not going to actually "leave", not with all that tasty oil still sitting there.

[SideshowScott]

23. And US troops will be " Invited" to be shot at..

What a retarded spin..PLEASE

[Sideways]

24. Will The Troops Serve At The Pleasure Of The Iraqis?

I cringe every time I hear a neo-con use that fucking expression..."I serve at the pleasure of the PretzelDunce."

What Royalist fuckwittage.

[banana republican]

25. The Only Reason

we were in Viet Nam was because we were "Invited"

[nolabels]

30. That's correct, It's a good thing they teach history in grade school

Otherwise we would have never have known that

http://www.vietvet.org/jeffviet.htm

"How the U.S. Got Involved In Vietnam"


By Jeff Drake

PREFACE
This article was written by me about two years ago and was, for me, extremely cathartic. I have not had a war nightmare since I wrote it, and I used to get a good one every couple of months or so for the past twenty years. Perhaps it was not so much the writing of the article I found so helpful, as the actual research I did prior to writing it (and I did a lot of research).

(snip)(snip)

In order to support State Department claims about the nature of the war and the reasons for American military actions in Vietnam, further fabricated information had to be generated. A former CIA officer, Philip Liechty, stated in 1982 that in the early 1960's he had seen written plans to take large amounts of Communist-bloc weapons, load them into a Vietnamese boat, fake a battle in which the boat would be sunk in shallow water, then call in Western reporters to see the captured weapons as proof of outside aid to the Vietcong. In 1965, this is precisely what occurred. The State Department "White Paper," titled "Aggression From the North," which came out in February 1965 relates that a "suspicious vessel" was "sunk in shallow water" off the coat of Vietnam on 16 February 1965, after an attack by South Vietnamese forces. The boat was reported to contain at least 100 tons of military supplies "almost all of communist origin, largely from Communist China and Czechoslovakia as well as North Vietnam." The white paper noted that "Representatives of the free press visited the sunken North Vietnamese ship and viewed its cargo."

Liechty said also that he had seen documents involving an elaborate operation to print large numbers of postage stamps showing a Vietnamese shooting down a US Army helicopter. Liechty stated that the professional way the stamps were produced was meant to indicate that they were produced by the North Vietnamese because the Vietcong would not have had the capabilities. Liechty claimed that letters, written in Vietnamese, were then mailed all over the world with the stamp on them "and the CIA made sure journalists would get hold of them." Life Magazine, in its issue of February 26 1965, did in fact feature a full color blow-up of the stamp on its cover, referring to it as a "North Vietnamese stamp." This was just two days before the State Department's white paper appeared.

In reporting Liechty's statements, the Washington Post noted:

"Publication of the white paper turned out to be a key event in documenting the support of North Vietnam and other communist countries in the fighting in the South and in preparing American public opinion for what was going to follow very soon: the large-scale commitment of the US forces to the fighting."(80)
(snip)

[jpgray]

28. I should have KNOWN this shit was coming (nt)

[lark]

31. Next step will be a "treaty"

Man oh man, does this bring back memories - of Vietnam!! Check it out, I guarantee you that Bush will sign a treaty with the US hand-picked government "guaranteeing it's security". Since there will be "foreign" fighters present, we will HAVE to honor the treaty and stay in Iraq to defend them from Al-Quaida! These guys are so transparent - they have no original thoughts but just mimic past misdeeds.

lark