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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:48 AM
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US investors turn their backs on Republicans, Pres Bush - poll

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US investors turn their backs on Republicans, Pres Bush - poll

NEW YORK, April 15 (Itar-Tass) -- U.S. investors, traditional supporters of the Republican Party, seem to be ever more critical of the current Administration and President George W. Bush in person.

The “investor exodus” phenomenon may have dire effects in the forthcoming congressional elections in November and eventually lead to the Republicans’ loss in the struggle for control of the Congress, as follows from a Zogby International opinion poll.

According to the poll results Business Week published on Friday a mere 43 percent of the polled investors approve of George W. Bush’s policies. Business Week recalls that in the 2004 presidential election Bush had the backing of 61 percent of investors.

The investor class is a major driving force in U.S. politics. It encompasses virtually all walks of life, because everybody who invests one’ s earnings into securities regards oneself as an investor.


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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:50 AM
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1. Here is comes, the rebellion of the M's
Edited on Sat Apr-15-06 12:51 AM by lvx35
Those being the three "M's" a regime needs to control to hold power: Military, Money, and Media. The generals are going after Rummy, the Investors are turning away, now we are just waiting for the MSM to change.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:58 AM
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3. Did you see CNN's special on Iraq/pre-war intelligence?
Oh man...that report was SCATHING!!

The copy for the program--could have been written by any DUer. The show made this administration looks like the lying, pathetic weasels that they are.

Anyone who saw that CNN program---walked away wanting Junior's head on a platter.

So maybe--the media isn't towing the BushCo line anymore.

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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:01 AM
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5. Could have been written by a DUer?
I'm not used to that kind of quality on CNN, I'll have to check them out and give em another chance.

Seriously good news. But when I see Fox reporting the truth, I'll know its over ! :)
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:21 AM
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15. FOX will never report the
truth as I suspect that Ruppert Murdoch is one of them.
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 07:24 PM
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29. I dont think he is
watch his tv network
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:14 AM
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6. Unfortunately, they run that program only a couple of times a month.
Wolf Blitzer is on three hours a day and two on Sunday.

He doesn't just spin the Republican line, he ARGUES it if his guests disagree with him.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:22 PM
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23. yes, you are right. There is little counter balance to the daily line.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 06:29 AM
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10. FYI, proper idiom is "toe the line", not "tow the line"
Edited on Sat Apr-15-06 06:32 AM by Divernan
The expression "toe the line", meaning to conform to the rules, often appears as "tow the line". It's often said that it comes from an ancient practice in the House of Commons, the lower house of the British parliament. A pair of lines is painted on the floor that separates the two front benches, replicating one in ealier chambers (the Commons is strong on tradition).

The rule used to be that during debates members could step no nearer to the opposing benches than the line on their side of the floor. This dates from a period when members hapbitually wore swords and the rule was designed to deter them from getting into potentially fatal confrontations. The lines are traditionally two sword lengths apart. So much is historical fact. But it is also said that if debate was getting too heated, the Speaker would demand that members "toe the line". Tourist guides and some books on word histories tell visitors that this is the source of the tradition. It isn't.

Toe the line is actually the survivor of a set of phrases which were common in the 19th century; others were toe the mark, toe the scratch, toe the crack or toe the trig. In every case, the image was that of men lining up with their toes touching some line. They might be on parade, or preparing to undertake some task, or inreadiness for a race or fight. The earliest recorded form is dated 1813, in a book by Hector Bull-Us (a pseudonym, you will not be surprised to hear) with the title "The Diverting History of John Bull and Brother Jonathan". This already had the modern figurative sense of conforming to the usual standards or rules: "He began to think it was high time to toe the mark". Many early examples are from the British navy, which is where it may have originated.

Toe the crack is an American form of the 1820s in referrence to a crack in the floorboards that delineates a straight line. Toe the scratch is from prize fighting, where scratch was a line drawn across the ring (often in the earth of an informal outdoor ring)to which the fighters were brought ready for contest - it's a close relative of "to come up to scratch". In toe the trig, trig is an old term for a boundary or center line in various sports.

This post has been brought to you today by the DU Idiom Checker! You will never see a series hugh! ! post like this at Free Republic.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 07:09 AM
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11. Thanks! Whenever I see "tow the line" I almost puke
I don't know why that particular error has such a great effect on me. :shrug:
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 08:37 AM
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12. Your last paragraph.......
Could you clarify for me? I'm not sure I understand your idiom "series hugh!!"
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:15 PM
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21. Those words are DU "in" jokes, lifted from freeper posts.
nt
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 08:49 PM
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30. I wondered if it was something like that......
however, I have never sullied my eyes or brain by visiting that site. My time is too valuable to waste on anyone who would post on a site like Free Republic. Call me an elitist, but I'm proud that I'm educated and intelligent.
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Bushies gotta go Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:20 AM
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14. Seems like Idiom Checker needs a spellchecker partner
Huge, meaning large, is spelled "hugE", not "hugH". And just a guess here but...
"serious" is not spelled "series". :P
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:37 AM
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16. Actually it's HUGH!1!1! and it's very series!
Ya must be new to DU. Stick around and it will make sense.

:)

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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:16 PM
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22. No, it was deliberate spoof of freepers.
Just like your "Get a brain Morans" avatar.
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Bushies gotta go Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 02:39 PM
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26. Now I feel like duh
I almost added a "PS: unless this is making fun of a freeper, then disregard". I keep forgetting libs aren't THAT stupid. :)
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:41 PM
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27. Welcome to DU - hope you like it as much as I do.
Since I retired from working for the govt., I no longer have daily contact with a lot of other people who know the score when it comes to the dark underside of politics in the GOP. DU has been a lifeline for me. We always jump to make fun of freepers' grammar, spelling, syntax, etc., but a lot of our members seem to spell phoenetically - which in itself is a reflection on the dumbing down of the American educational system. Sometimes the teacher in me just has to comment. I still rely on the Oxford English Dictionary, because I think careless writing/spelling lessens the impact of a message.
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Bushies gotta go Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 06:43 PM
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28. It gets me
... I have always said that "Hooked on Phonics" has ruined this country. I run a forum and the errors by so-called intelligent people who cannot put a single thought together in a sentence are astounding.


Typos are one thing, spelling moron incorrectly is another.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:58 AM
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4. you lose that other 'M' - middle class -
the 'Money' can't sell the stuff 2 prop up their stocks. I think the Money is catching on...
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:55 AM
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2. This one is hard to believe
War/defense spending is good for investors
Medicare drug bill is good for investors
Leave no lobbyist behind Energy Bill is good for investors
CAFTA is good for investors
Globalization is good for investors
and so on

No bill passed in the last five years hurt investors and all have helped them. What are they griping about?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:14 AM
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7. Their griping that Bush & his cronies got all the money and
they didn't... and the economy is worse off than ever and they know it they have been betrayed!!!
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:21 AM
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8. The 3% of investors who owns 95% of the market
are all probably sitting squarely in the support Bush category.

The individual investors with 401K monies may be some of the ones who may have voted negatively in this poll.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:35 AM
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9. True story. Being just a millionaire is not enough
to benefit from the robber baron regime. You have to be one of the uber-rich - the have-mores - to get any of the take. And they are raking in billions.

The average stock holder sees a stagnant stock market and has not benefitted at all under the Bush cabal. In the end, they will be hurt more than anyone. But many investors have delusions that they are part of the upper crust, and therefore must vote republican. You don't have to be smart to be rich. GW Bush is living proof of that.

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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:14 AM
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13. I wonder how much of the 3% at the top is old, old money?
Handed down through the generations and how much is sort of new wealth with a robber baron mind set?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:47 AM
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18. DING DING DING! Tabasco, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Sat Apr-15-06 09:48 AM by rocknation
Being just a millionaire is not enough to benefit from the robber baron regime...

There's a scene in Farenheit 9/11 when Bush addresses an audience as "the haves and the have mores," then adds "They call you the elite--I call you my base." Only the richest got richer from Bush's policies.

:headbang:
rocknation
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 10:14 AM
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19.  and didn't he smirk as he said that?

so obnoxious, vulgar and base!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 11:50 AM
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20. We need a group picture of Ferengi to show Bush's base. n/t
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:27 PM
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24. unless the interest income alone from your investments -
puts you in the highest tax bracket, you are NOT part of the "investment class"...people whose entire income is capital gains, and therefore taxed at a lower rate than EARNED wages...until the revolution comes, anyway.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:45 AM
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17. They're stupid anyway -
statistics show that the stockmarket does much better under Democratic administrations.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:31 PM
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25. Democrats GROW national wealth...
repuglicans harvest(i.e. steal) it.

it's the cycle that we're in.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:05 PM
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31. More like strip-mine.
All the big Repug support is in the "extractive industries":eyes: like mining, lumber, and energy. You know, the type whose only approach to "wealth" is to strip it from the earth, with no thought to what happens it runs out.
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