Hinckley Pushes For Homecoming

[dArKeR]

The man who tried to assassinate President Reagan is trying to persuade a federal judge to allow him to visit his parents without being accompanied by staff from the psychiatric hospital where he has lived for more than two decades.

John Hinckley Jr. has asked U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman to let him leave unescorted from St. Elizabeths Hospital in Washington and travel three hours away to the Williamsburg, Va., area to see his parents 10 times. Five of the trips would be overnight visits.

Friedman scheduled a hearing for Monday.

Hinckley, 48, has been a patient at St. Elizabeths since his acquittal by reason of insanity in the shooting of Reagan and three others outside a Washington hotel in March 1981. Hinckley said he shot the president to impress actress Jodie Foster.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/27/national/main570411.shtml

Jooodieee Foooosterrrrr Jooodieee Foooosterrrrr
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/HINCKLEY.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38432f49307d.htm

[Bluzmann57]

1. No no no!

He shot the President. Whether one liked reagan or not, he was the President and NO ONE should be allowed to roam free if they try to shoot the President. For that matter, no one should be allowed to be free if they pre meditate a murder of any type. And Hinckley is a wannabe murderer who may or may not be insane, either way, his visits should always be supervised.

[dArKeR]

2. What about the guy who sent him on his mission? Herr Bush.

[RobinA]

3. Couldn't Agree More

This guy tried to assasinate the President. Not exactly a crime of passion. Also, he seems to have been pretty seriously disturbed.

[Muddleoftheroad]

6. I agree

There are some crimes that you should never get out after.

[Cooley Hurd]

4. I don't understand why the Hinckley family doesn't call their friends...

...the Bush family, and have them spring John. After all he tried to do for them, and this is how the Bush's show loyalty? Tsk tsk...

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

5. But he FAILED so he's left to rot. (nt)

[PATRICK]

7. may be angling for a pardon?

i see wheels behind this. At least on Hinckley or his lawyer's part. Demonstrate his cure and sanity. Reagan will die soon and Bush will be dusting off the pardons. A controversial one to mask more disturbing pardons of Enron officials, etc.?

But probably not Bush's idea by any stretch.

[mumon]

8. I favor this...

Look, if Hinckley was schizophrenic and psychotic, it is possible to get better.

The fact that Ronald Reagan was/is a scumbag is irrelevant here, except insofar as that fact combined with the posting policy might possibly limit what I write here. Or not.

I can't believe the "Well, he's the president!" arguments that folks are making here- do you all have the Stockholm syndrome?

Yeah- he's the president- meaning he's just another jerk like you and me.

And frankly, the insanity defense isn't used enough in this country.

[apsuman]

9. Yeah, but the prez is different

If he tried to kill the Speaker of the House, or the Secretary of Agriculture, that would be one thing, but to try and decapitate *THE* leadership of a country is a bit more serious.

He wasn't trying to kill Reagan because he was Reagan, he was trying to kill the President of the United States.

[newyawker99]

12. Hi apsuman!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[shanti]

14. what a lovely flower!

what kind is it?

[9215]

10. A quid-pro-quo?

http://www.geocities.com/prohibition_us/dui.html
.......The two families lived close to each other. They knew each other socially and financially. When the Hinkley oil company started to fail in the sixties, Bush's Zapata Oil financially bailed out Hinkley's company. It went from being Vanderbilt Oil to Vanderbilt Energy or Vanderbilt Resources in the 60s after Bush intervened. The Hinkleys had been running an operation with six dead wells but then they were making several million dollars a year after the Bush bailout. .....

Hinkley linked to Oswald, Poppy Hinckley contributed to Bush campaign and more......


FTR-244 Trouble on Oiled Waters, Part V - Line of Succession (Restoring Dignity to the Office of the Presidency) (Two 30-minute segments) (Sources are noted in parentheses)
1. Throughout the campaigning of 2000, the Republicans have stated that they (George W. Bush) should be elected, in order to “restore dignity to the office of the Presidency.” (This, presumably, in reference to the scandals of the Clinton Administration. The role of the George H.W. Bush faction of the intelligence community in the creation of these scandals is discussed in numerous broadcasts, including FTR #'s 174, 182, 186 , as well as L-8.)
2. This broadcast underscores the role of the elder Bush, people associated with his administration, and other key Republican politicians (past and present) in the murder (or attempted murder) of past Presidents. In particular, the program focuses on what might be called ‘“vice” Presidents’”--Republicans who either held, or ran for, the office of Vice-President and participated in what might be viewed as the ultimate “vice” of someone in that position. These “vice” Presidents either murdered, or attempted to murder, the chief executive of the United States.
3. The broadcast begins with discussion of the predominance of Bush administration figures serving as principal advisors to George W. (The New York Times, 7/21/2000, p. A19.)
4. In that context, it is not unfair to assess “Dubya” in the context of his father's actions, particularly since the Republicans have attempted to tar Al Gore with Clinton's indiscretions. The first half of the program consists largely of a long excerpt from Miscellaneous Archive Show M-20 (George Bush and the Shooting of Ronald Reagan.) Recorded on 7/10/88, M-20 sets forth analysis of a strong body of circumstantial evidence linking the elder Bush to the shooting of Ronald Reagan. (M-20 was recorded during the course of “Campaign '88.” At the time Reagan was shot, former Director of Central Intelligence Bush was Vice-President.)
5. John Hinckley was a former member of the National Socialist Party of America. (San Francisco Examiner, 3/31/81.)
6. He was expelled for being so violent that his fellow Nazis suspected him of being a government agent. (Idem.)
7. In October of 1980, Hinckley had been arrested at the Nashville (Tennessee) airport as then President Jimmy Carter was due to arrive. (Idem.)
8. At the time, he had a .38 caliber pistol and two .22 caliber handguns in his possession, along with 50 rounds of ammunition. (Idem.)
9. Interestingly, this former resident of Dallas, Texas, had purchased the weapons at Rocky's Pawn Shop, on the very street on which President Kennedy had been assassinated. (Idem.) One wonders to what extent some of these “coincidences” were intended to send a message. The Nazi party to which Hinckley belonged had been founded by George Lincoln Rockwell, whose Arlington (Virginia) name and address were in Lee Harvey Oswald's address book at the time of his (Oswald’s) arrest. (For more on the Oswald - Rockwell-JFK assassination connection, see also: G-4, RFA-13, Miscellaneous Archive Show M-20, Lecture L-3, and FTR-188.)
10. Hinckley had attended a memorial march to commemorate Rockwell. (San Francisco Chronicle, 4/1/81.)
11. The broadcast sets forth evidence that Hinckley's father, John Hinckley Sr., had been a significant contributor to George Bush's primary campaign (when Bush Sr. was challenging Ronald Reagan for the nomination.) (Idem.)
12. The night after the shooting, John Jr.'s brother, Scott Hinckley, was scheduled to have dinner with Neil Bush (George W.'s brother and, like “Dubya” and George Sr, a petroleum industry professional.) (San Francisco Chronicle, 4/1/81.)
13. Scott was, at the time, an executive with the Hinckley family's independent oil company, Vanderbilt Energy. (San Jose Mercury, 4/1/81, p. 24A, San Francisco Chronicle, 4/1/81.)........more........



Was the Reagan hit a quid-pro-quo for past favors?

[9215]

11. Oops, left out link

http://www.spitfirelist.com/f244.html

[UpInArms]

13. here's a link

(much as I hate to link to them) but this is the only source I could find that had the AP wire stories on it

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38432f49307d.htm

Bush Son Had Dinner Plans With Hinckley Brother Before Shooting

The Associated Press
Domestic News
March 31, 1981, Tuesday, PM cycle

HOUSTON
The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign, the Houston Post reported today.



Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.


The newspaper said in a copyright story, Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.

The newspaper said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana.

In 1978, Neil served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the vice president's oldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980.

On Monday, Neil Bush said he did not know if he had ever met 25-year- old John Hinckley.

...more...

[underpants]

15. In a high profile NGRI case like this I don't see this happening

The judge is (for lack of a better term) crazy to let him visit alone.

NGRI is the WORST sentence one can receive, it is never over. Even if you are in the hospital (I know I kno wit's not as bad as jail) for 20 years like Hinckly has once your doctor says he/she thinks you are okay it goes before a board of psychologists, psychiatrists, clinicians, and the like. They review not only how the patient is doing but the treatment that was given. Rarely do they NOT change the treatment and basically send the patient and clinician back to square one. To be released (not just for visits but actually released) several such reviews are done.

And even if all of that is given a passing grade the patient has to go before the presiding judge and get the terms of his/her release. That oculd be anything from reporting as if they were out on parole to what is most likely; daily to weekly contact (usually in person), informing their landlord and any new employer (if they are allowed to work) of their history, and quite often not being able to leave a jurisdiction (city/county) without either contacting their case manager or maybe even going in front of the judge (this could include going to Wal-Mart in the next county).

People think that it is an "easy" sentence, it is quite the opposite. I've worked in the Mental Health Mental Retardation Substance Abuse field before and that is who usually handles it at least in Virginia.

[LisaM]

16. I think he should be referred to as "Bush Family Friend John Hinckley"

the way Michael Skakel is always referred to as "Kennedy Cousin Michael Skakel". I remember someone here commenting hilariously, "why did they name their kid 'Kennedy Cousin'"?

[cosmicdot]

17. wonder what conservative/Repukes/freepers think about this

I would think they wouldn't take lightly RE this gradual move to free Hinckley, the alleged would-be killer of Raygun ...



imho it has BFEE all over it - was he really ill to begin with?

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"Doctor: Hinckley's Mental Health Improving"

WASHINGTON - John Hinckley Jr.'s therapist testified Monday that the mental health of the man who tried to assassinate President Reagan is improving, and he should be allowed to visit his parents without supervision.

The government and Reagan's family oppose the idea.

Psychologist Sidney Binks, who has treated Hinckley for more than four years, said supervised trips away from Washington's St. Elizabeths Hospital to such places as restaurants, bowling allies and shopping centers have been therapeutic.

The next step in his recovery, Binks said, is to allow Hinckley to visit his parents without hospital staff. "Continued incremental releases are appropriate," he said.

http://start.earthlink.net/newsarticle?cat=6&aid=D7USMPV80_story