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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:17 PM
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Limbaugh returns after drug treatment
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/11/17/rushlimbaugh.returns.ap/

NEW YORK (AP) -- Rush Limbaugh returned to radio Monday after what he called "five intense weeks" of rehab for an addiction to painkillers, promising listeners "even more honesty to come."
The conservative commentator thanked his listeners for their concern, and assured them that his ordeal would not affect his radio program.
"I've not been phony here, I've not been artificial on the program," he said. "I was all of that elsewhere." He did not elaborate.




Limpballs has been a phony period, but the fact that he partially admitted it will mean nothing to his avid dittoheads because it won’t register….it was the truth. Only vile lies and deception work on these critters.

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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:24 PM
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1. LOL "have not been phony here,"
From the article: "I've not been phony here, I've not been artificial on the program," he said. "I was all of that elsewhere." He did not elaborate

ROFL, anybody that believes that crock of sh*t deserves whatever they get.

More honesty, yeah, riiiight.
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BlackFrancis Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:26 PM
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2. Is that code?
Like he is implying that he bullshitted his way through treatment as a legal strategy but he really wasn't going in for any pussy ass twelve-step stuff or something?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:43 PM
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12. I had the same thought when I read that. n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:27 PM
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3. If he's broadcasting from New York, he's a MEGA phony
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 02:29 PM by rocknation
Go back to Florida and deal with your legal issues like a man! You're exposing your employer to a charge of harboring a fugitive!


rocknation
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bspence Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:28 PM
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4. Been waiting all day for news about what he says
Because I won't give that guy any ratings by tuning in.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:06 PM
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33. The act of tuning in does not give him ratings.
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 11:06 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
That falls to Arbitron, a marketing research firm.





Edit- Hmmm. Interesting. I was going to link to the Arbitron "about" page and noticed this ditty:

Through its Scarborough Research joint venture with SRDS, Inc., a subsidiary of VNU, Inc., Arbitron also provides media and marketing research services to the broadcast television, magazine, newspaper, outdoor and online industries.
http://www.arbitron.com/about/home.htm

Too tired to follow the crumb trail...
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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:29 PM
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5. When is he going to be arrested?
That's what I want to know.

"you do the crime, you do the time."
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:23 PM
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41. Never
I heard on the Today Show this morning that charges will not be filed against him, but he is expected to cooperate with authorities should they decide to charge those people who supplied him. :puke:
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SkipNewarkDE Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:33 PM
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6. There's a relapse waiting to happen
I have a ton of experience with twelve step programs. This man's journey to sobriety is going to be a long one. He obviously hasn't gotten to steps four and five yet, as he is not willing to do an honest moral inventory, and confess those to another. His railing on his radio shows against other drug addicts, and indeed his not facing the music in Florida and lying on the air about his situation is about as phony as you can get.

Sadly, until this addict gets a bit of humility, gets off his self-made pedestal, and takes a hard look at himself, he's f-ed so far as true recovery.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:36 PM
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8. we should be flooding his fax machine with the 12 steps
and asking him when he's planning on completing the program.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:13 PM
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16. And a simple suggestion for a great head start on them...
Two simple words: "I QUIT."
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:45 PM
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13. Agreed
3 - 5 years for even decent recovery.
Been there.
And you can't be phony in one part of your life, and a saint in another.

Bank manager can be a model father (saint) by night, and an embezzler (phony) by day. Yeah, that'll work.

I believe Adolf was kind to children and animals. Great guy, except for that little Jewish thing.
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SkipNewarkDE Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:10 PM
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15. When he gets to making amends
... he's going to have an AWFUL lot of work to do, I'm afraid. That is the true sign of humility, and "getting it".

One of the hard lessons of 12 steps, whether it be the AA or NA version is that one shouldn't take another's moral inventory. Sadly for Rush, this is going to be a hard one to break, as much of his livelihood is spent casting judgement on others. This guy has a hard road ahead of him.
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freethought23 Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 07:49 PM
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24. YOU are taking Rush's inventory and enjoying every minute of it.
Now go make amends. Call him up and apologize. :)
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submerged99 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:35 PM
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7. said he should've done this 30 years ago
I forgot pigboy was coming back on the air until I flipped past Faux and saw a live feed of his program. I watched it for a couple of minutes but he seemed like he was fishing around for an angle and not exactly sure what he wanted to say.

He did say this about Therapy"I wish I would have done this 30 years ago"

Now what did he mean by that? Does that mean he's been an addict for 30 years or just in need of therapy for other issues?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:36 PM
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10. addict for 30 years, obviously. why else would he say that he should have
gone to treatment 30 years ago?
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submerged99 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:42 PM
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11. that's what I infer as well
That's what I concluded from his statement. I was just wondering if there were any other possible reasons for him to have needed therapy for the last 3 decades such as deep seated psychological problems/issues.

If he has been an addict for the past 30 years, 5 weeks in therapy won't do him any good.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:04 PM
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22. Good catch!
Heeee, hee. So he has been an addict all this time and so much as says it. Ha, Ha, Ha.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 08:16 PM
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25. Funny!
I tuned in over lunch (yes, it was painful). He admitted he had a substance abuce problem, an addiction problem, and had had it since about oh, uh, 19 uh (he really struggled with when the addiciton started) 1995 or 96.

He just spend 5 weeks in heavy duty treatment. He KNOWS when his addiciton started - he talked about it daily in treatement. He was stumbling, attempting to recall what lies he told in treatement - simple as that.
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Meph Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:53 AM
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47. yes, various addictions for 30 years.
For the past 30 years he's had addictions with lying, exagerations,half truths, distortions, quote mining, fact stacking, food, and most recently, oxycotin.
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Neutrino Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:36 PM
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9. 30 day stint no cure for Rush's deep addiction.---

From what I have read, Rush has actually been rendered deaf as a side
effect from heavy and prolonged doses of Oxycontin. He wears a Cochlear
(sp) implant to hear even minimally. Rush Limbaugh's physiology has
undergone obvious and profound changes that in no way can be addressed
in 30 days. It ain't over.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 02:45 PM
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14. Mr. Limbaugh has shown to the world what indeed he is....
and what he represents so why would anyone want to hear more of his garbage.

I think the feepers are smarter than that.....
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shamanstar Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:19 PM
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17. freepers smarter than that?
i think you are wrong. he wont see much of a drop in ratings. these people can so easily put out of their mind what they dont want to think about- or turn it around. "poor rush had pain so he became an ddict to those horible perscription drugs. " then they will change focus to the evils of prescription drugs, not rush limbaugh.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:28 PM
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19. As Dems forgave Clinton...
...so will Dittoheads forgive Limbaugh. And probably love him all the more.

It's nothing to do with political affiliation. It's everything to do with hero worship. In our society, the fall from grace and the repentant (or at least rehabbed) return is a widely understood rite of passage for celebrities.

It would take a lot more than this to topple Limbaugh - something along the lines of a video of him screwing Paris Hilton might do it, though. ;-)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 08:18 PM
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26. Two of his drs said that drugs didn't do in his ears
when a caller asked him about it today. He didn't offer a reason, but he did get around to blaming the Clintons.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:19 PM
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18. One hopes Mr. Limbaugh will have a more compassionate view of addiction
and drug policy in the future.

Hey, we can dream.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 03:56 PM
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20. he won't
he's a f***ing republican
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:01 PM
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21. Why does he have to reassure his audience
that he hasn't been "phony"????

That is bizarre.
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shamanstar Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 08:37 PM
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30. when someone says "now im being honest here"
you know they are lying.
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 06:43 PM
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23. He's gonna relapse- for sure...
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 06:52 PM by Kanzeon
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/17/national/17CND-RUSH.html?hp

Better yet, take a look at this:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111703/content/rush_speaks.guest.html

Holy f*ckin' cow what a goddam narcissist!

I'm just like anybody else who has an addiction. I'm powerless over it, and I have to continue to recognize that and make sure that the things that I've learned continue to be practiced. It's a challenge, but it's exciting. ... I can now not relive things, but it's going to give new meaning to the future.

But I don't want anybody to get frightened about this, now. This has no impact on what you have come to know, love and respect here and expect, because I've not been phony here. I've not been artificial or any of that on the program. I was all that elsewhere. I was all that other places, but not here....



... It's been interesting to...(talking to camera crew) Would you people hang on just a second? There's a video camera recording this, and I just want to wave at it so that they realize I - a personal "Hi." We're going to send this to the media. I thought about opening up on steel tariffs and the budget deficit and some real boring, dull, dry stuff because that's what we're going to give the media, but I decided, no. No act. Just be who I am.

This was fascinating for me over the weekend. I did read some of the so-called experts predicting what I will now be like and who I will now be, and what must have happened to me while I was gone. It's amazing, when you know something that nobody else knows and you listen to the people that don't know anything write and talk about it. It is hilarious. It is absolutely hilarious to read and listen to people who don't have the slightest idea what they're talking about act expert and all opinionated about it. It's also quite hilarious - and I mean this "hilarious." It's quite hilarious to listen to people quote the National Enquirer as the world's foremost authority, and I'm here to tell you that they're not, ladies and gentlemen. What you know - what you think you know - you don't know. But you will when I am able to tell you all about it, and I hope that's going to be very, very soon. In the meantime, quick time-out.
...


This guy's gonna relapse so hard he's gonna make Robert Downey Jr. look like the spokesperson for the WCTU...



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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 08:32 PM
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29. Hey, maybe he'll do a David Brock thing here....
Nah, he's too into himself.

http://www.ericblumrich.com/nazi.html
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:15 PM
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37. Your post brewed down to the squirmy core:
It is absolutely hilarious to read and listen to people who don't have the slightest idea what they're talking about act expert and all opinionated about it.



He hits the nail on the head about his own career. Hilarious.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 08:23 PM
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27. NBC said charges against Ru$h may come up in Jeb and Noelle's Florida ...
What a joke! The BFEE will see that Ru$h is rich, not indicted.


Noelle Bu$h, after recent arrest.


The Florida wing of the Bu$h crime family.

(Thanks Betty Bowers' Crackwhore Ministries for these great pics - www.bettybowers.com)
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:55 PM
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32. What do they mean MAY come up. This appears to be a well-documented
federal crime. I think pressure needs to be put on law enforcement to do their job. Anyone know who the public prosecutor is in his area? Let's do some letter writin'.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:12 PM
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36. You forget, federal crime or not, the jurisdiction is big-Bu$h country.
Have you forgotten the "election" of 2000, Leesa? Ru$h is home free. Well, not free. He has to toe the BFEE line for now and evermore. BFD, for Ru$h-bo. He is a whore from way back.

(Ru$h, you reading DU tonight? If so, why did you not answer my email last year about your draft exclusion. Maybe the oxycontin was for the old pain in the ass you had in the '60s? Yeah, like hell. Remember, some of us linguinni-limp left wingers - that's what you called us today - served distinguished combat careers in the war you and the minor Bu$h avoided. Vietnam, Republic of ...). Personally, I thing Ru$h is a chichenshit (not a chickenhawk), who will never be the same again. With any luck at all!
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 08:27 PM
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28. Limberger
I'll bet Rusty has already had a relapse & is popping pills like crazy. }(
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 10:39 PM
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31. here's a revealing quote from his site
There's also part of me that wonders if I need to apologize. There are people I need to apologize to. When it comes to apologizing to you, those of you in this audience, I think of my statement on Friday before I left that I'm not a victim here and I'm not a role model. What I did, I did knowingly. What I did, I did because I wanted to do it, but I knew it was wrong the whole time. It's a powerful addiction this stuff has over me, and it's something that I'm, as I say, am going to be dealing with on a daily basis, and I'm excited to be doing it as well. But the thing that I want you all to know is that the effort that I put forth during that period of time was not affected.

The things that I said to you during that period of time I meant. The positions I took, I felt - all of it. There was no phoniness or any of this, and there was not any sort of - I don't even know what the word is. I was honest with you throughout the whole time. I was not honest with myself, is what was happening. And I was doing something I knew was wrong but didn't understand why and didn't really understand what I had to do to stop it - and now I do. As I say, I'm really eager to share these last five weeks with you, that they are things that could benefit people.



ok, let's parse this, Rxush. "the effort i put forth during that period of time was not affected." hah. you were high out of your mind on opiates, and you were ranting like a streetpreacher junky. don't even try to pretend you weren't high. you were high, high, high.

"The positions I took, I felt - all of it. There was no phoniness or any of this, and there was not any sort of - I don't even know what the word is. I was honest with you throughout the whole time. I was not honest with myself, is what was happening. "

I know what the word is, rushbo. it's called HIGH. and you're lying. you were high, and you knew it, and you don't know what phoniness is when you're high. it's all phony. you're a phony. you're trying to make black white and white black, and the only reason you're getting away with it is because your audience is sheeple. but we know the truth, fat boy. we know that your mind is squirming like a toad, wanting that oxycontin high back. right now. crying out in pain. you're still a junky...

and by the way, rush, remember, junkies always mean what they say when they're high. w.s. burroughs meant what he said, too. but he was never stupid enough to claim it was anything other than fiction.

rush is going to always leave out one little detail when he talks about this... the fact that he was high 24 hours a day. which means he was high on the air too. but he's going to pretend that he wasn't high.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:09 PM
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35. Something's missing???
Every addict that I have known, be they alcholic or drug user who have gone through rehab was required to personally apoligize to all those that he/she may have hurt or offended during their addiction. Rush was under the influence during his broadcasts yet, I hear no apology to his listener's nor to the addicts that he crucified while at the same time using himself. How long do you think it will take for him to relapse????????
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:16 PM
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39. So long as the denial continues, so will the chronic narcotics abuse
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 11:16 PM by Dr Fate
...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:15 PM
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38. Rush's spin does not work on a good DUer!!!
Great break down of what Rush said...

I guess chronic narcotics abuse does that to you- makes you wishy-washy, unable to just come out say what you really mean- unless you are attacking people...

Rush pretending like his rants were not induced by black market street narcotics is like Psychedelic rocke-band Iron Butterly claiming they were sober on "Inna Gadda Davida"...
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:21 PM
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40. I wish someone would examine all the damage he has done
My husband and I have maintained for years that his "style" of attack has been extremely detrimental to our country.....he's caused major devisiveness.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:30 PM
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42. And to find his rants were drug-fueled is a further slap to listeners
He has been dishonest on so many occasions- people bellieve his lies that were designed to divide this nation- and to find out it was all some narcotics-fueled LARK- what an insult to everyone...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:09 PM
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34. The needle and the damage done...
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 11:33 PM by Dr Fate
...sad, sad indeed...the damage he has done with his lies and divisiveness...and to find it was induced by black-market street pills...
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-03 11:33 PM
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43. The fat slob belongs in jail!!!...but I'm afraid it'll never happen..
Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 11:33 PM by Manix
n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 10:40 AM
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51. Yes. he belongs in jail.
He provided hundreds of thousands of dollars to criminal gangs. Gangs which also engage in murder, assault, and a wide range of criminal activity. If Limbaugh is not prosecuted, it will be a blatant injustice.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:16 AM
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44. It would be hard to believe that he is "cured"
Of this after 5 weeks. Considering how deep he was into that stuff, he doesn't look like the has lost any weight or experienced any suffering at all, not even rattled.

He came right back, shamelessly casting out insults and attacksm didn't miss a beat. The person is a fool.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:30 AM
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45. Very startling facts about Rush's fix of choice- (links included)
http://www.oxycontinaddiction.info/

http://www.oxycontinaddiction.info/injecting-oc.htm

The most widely used diversion technique at the street level is doctor shopping. Individuals who may or may not have a legitimate ailment requiring a doctors prescription for OxyContin visit numerous doctors, sometimes in several states, to acquire large amounts of OxyContin which they abuse or sell to others.

Individuals who abuse OxyContin by injecting the crushed tablets quickly become addicted. Injecting OxyContin requires a preparation regimen similar to that of heroin. This allows the abuser to receive the full effect of the pure Oxycodone almost immediately. This creates an effect similar to illicit opioid narcotics, such has heroin. Such a regimen requires the removal of the tablet coating by either sucking on it or scraping it with the teeth or a razor blade, followed by melting the remainder on a spoon, adding water, and then injecting the solution. Dissolving and injecting the contents of OxyContin can slow down or stop breathing and lead to death. Injecting OxyContin can also kill the tissue around the injection site and trigger heart and lung problems.


Signs of OxyContin addiction may include withdrawal symptoms when the OxyContin is discontinued, requests for OxyContin at frequent intervals around the clock, personality changes

Continued increases in the diversion and abuse of OxyContin are likely. Reliable strength, potential prescription cost coverage, and significant profit potential make OxyContin attractive to both illicit distributors and abusers.

OxyContin addiction is serious and is very difficult to overcome through out-patient or home treatment.
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Meph Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:50 AM
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46. The worst thing...
Is that you click on the media, and you hear about Rush returning after rehab. But no mention as to how the criminal didn't go to jail. How he's a total hypocrite.

They mentioned he lost 24 pounds while in rehab... no mention that the liberals were right all along, he was still fat.

And how he had record breaking ratings. that's what really bugs me, was it really all these ditto heads turning in to hear Rush, or was it liberals turning in to hear if he had devoloped any compassion over his recent struggle to try some of the personal responsibility he waffels on so much about. Seriously, the conservatives always banter on and on about how they are the party of personal responsibility, but they never never never think twice about a guy who got over 400 pounds, divorced twice, and got himself addicted to oxycotin having a bit of irony commenting about personal responsibility. But then, they also didn't have a problem with that sloppy drunk Peggy Noonan.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:28 AM
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48. WHY wasn't he in prison?
That's what Pigboy said ought to happen to drug offenders - they ought to be sent to prison. NOT rehab - prison.

Oh..

That's right, Pigboy is a Repuglican. Those RULES wouldn't apply to HIM, then, eh?

Pretentious Hypocrisy is the Hallmark of Republicans. Then, now, always!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:48 AM
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49. Just how MANY black-market pills HAS he illegally bought over the years?
Edited on Tue Nov-18-03 02:58 AM by Dr Fate
Hundreds? Thousands? Thousands and THOUSANDS??? Which is it, Rush?

If you or I (and of course we would not have) or a regular guy had done this, we would spend a few years in JAIL...

...I cant believe the media and the "War on Drugs" police are letting him get off scot-free...

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 10:28 AM
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50. Well pretentious hypocrisy....
...well, you know. The rules apply to everyone ELSE.
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