MIA Aussie Found in Twin Grave (With Howard Dean's Brother)

[kskiska]

THE remains of an Australian journalist shot almost 30 years ago have been found by US authorities.

The bodies of Neil Sharman and American tourist Charles Dean, brother of front-running US presidential candidate Howard Dean, have been uncovered in a grave in central Laos.

The discovery ends a 30-year mystery after the men were taken by communist forces in September 1974.

Yesterday Mr Sharman's brother Ian told the Herald Sun the men were handcuffed, executed, and their bodies thrown into a bomb crater.

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http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7912625%255E401,00.html

[MaineDem]

1. This isn't all true

Mr Sharman had been a journalist in Darwin and Sydney. Mr Dean, 24, was the son of John Dean, a former adviser to US president Richard Nixon.

He was also the brother of Howard Dean, who is leading the race to be the Democrat candidate in the 2004 United States presidential election


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The son of John Dean? I don't think so.

[JaneQPublic]

6. If Gov. Dean is "Howard Dean III...

Wouldn't his dad be Howard Dean II and not John Dean?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

21. They've corrected it.

It doesn't say that anymore.

[Jack Rabbit]

28. It was a obvious error

I believe that John Dean was less than 30 years old when he was the White House Council. He couldn't have had a 24-year-old son during that time.

[wryter2000]

31. Ooops

He wasn't John Dean's son, and neither is Howard Dean. I believe the father's name was also Howard Dean and our candidate is Howard Dean, III.

[Mel]

2. does anyone find this strange?

That Howard Dean's brother was found at this point?

[soothsayer]

5. yeah, is this supposed to be a warning to dean?

about digging up more skeletons (literally and figuratively)---or 'this could happen to you'?

[soothsayer]

14. On the other hand, the freepers think DEAN did it to get sympathy

They are suspicious about the timing, too, but from the opposite side of the conspiracy theory.

[Spider Jerusalem]

15. What I find strange...

is the surprising number of people who think every-fucking-thing has to be a conspiracy. Jesus. Do you realise how absurd that sounds?

[Mel]

26. Hello

I did not say anything about a conspiracy you did so back off with putting words into my posting.

I said, "I found it strange" it's strange because his brother was missing for so long and finally found and at this point Howard Dean is running for President and we have Iraqnam.

Jeezus, do you realise how you jumped to a conclusion?

Strange does not mean conspiracy.

[Spider Jerusalem]

27. There's nothing especially strange about it.

And, given your wording, that was the most obvious inference to be drawn. Don't get huffy with me just because you don't know how to phrase things in such a manner as to convey your intended meaning. (And I'm not the only one who thought that's what you meant...see the first reply to your post.)

[Mel]

32. My huffy attitude came from your cursing and assuming.

if you noticed all the number of people who assume conspiracy theories you would of noted that my name isn't found in those threads.

Huffy is to nice of a word for me how about bitchy? ;) heee! hee!


Granted maybe the better word would of been ironic? and then explaining what I meant.

[Spider Jerusalem]

34. Maybe you should try saying what you mean to start with.

If you don't want people to assume you're saying something, don't make vague posts that seem to hint towards a meaning you didn't intend. Simple enough.

[Eloriel]

43. Well, what did you mean, then?

Because that's approximately the inference I drew from your remarks too.

'Splain yourself.

Eloriel

[demdave]

33. No, they do not realise how absurd they sound, they think they are

insightful. They think that the "sheeple" are blindly led by the nose while only they possess the intellect to see the truth. The BFEE controls all worldly events in order to time the release of all news items for the purpose of distracting the foolish public. If you look, there are threads that even the investigation into Micheal Jackson is timed for that pupose.


These are the people that have thrust themselves in front of the cameras, have written the letters to the editors and called the talk shows. These are the people who have taken our historic base of support and made it cringe with their cries of LIHOP, MIHOP and Wellstoned. These are the people who are losing our elections because the candidates cannot here the rational views through their din of absurdity.....but I don't want to get off on a rant here. :evilgrin:

[CounterCoulter]

35. You've got to be joking...

Leftwingnuts are not the ones calling in talk radio with conspiracy theories. Remember the Arkansas Project? Remember the tapes sold by Jerry Faldwell and Pat Robertson with their whacko theories about Bill Clinton, cocaine smuggling, Vince Foster and Hillary Clinton? Which party do they hail from? And which party controls all three branches of government? I thought so.

I'm sorry to go off on you, but blaming conspiracy theorists for the problems of the Democratic Party and, more generally, democracy in the United States is particularly asinine.

Perhaps you are uninformed about the abuses of power during the Nixon Administration, but the average American has good reason to be cynical about political events and news coverage. If you don't agree, then you are woefully ignorant of America's history in even the past 50 years.

[demdave]

36. BAAAAAAAA Gee, I must be a sheeple.

You made my point for me, your lack of ability to debate in a reasoned and civil fashion, your immediate descent to namecalling and your "more knowledgable then thou" attitude are just what I was talking about. Thank you for stepping forward and being an example. You may be seated now, wipe the drivel from your chin.

[CounterCoulter]

38. Exactly

All you can do is critique my tone and delivery. Not my point. I'm not your mother, and it's not my responsibility to be nice to you. You posted an asinine rant blaming conspiracy theorists for the problems facing the Democratic Party. That it was a misguided rant is my opinion. I backed it up with facts. That is the definition of reasoned. I'd LOVE for you to back up your statement that my posts were not "reasoned."

I wouldn't expect you to pat me on the head if I posted a misguided rant and I'll do you the favor of treating you like an adult as well. Sometimes the truth hurts, but don't confuse sparing your feelings with reason.

[demdave]

37. WOW how quickly you edited your subject line

I guess tou no longer find me to be a "dumbass" or did it suddenly dawn on you that you exemplify what I was trying to point out? :)

[CounterCoulter]

39. Fine.

I edited my name calling--even if your assertation was one of the more ridiculous, ignorant reactionary statements I've ever seen. Perhaps you bought into the Republican propaganda that liberals don't believe in right and wrong? Well, now you know that this liberal most definitely thinks that you are unequivocally dead wrong.

Now defend your position and quit changing the subject.

[drfemoe]

16. If it's his brother

Charlie, HD has been searching for his body for several years. Gov Dean waited until his father passed before starting the search.

[David Zephyr]

29. Strange? Not With This Administration.

n/t

[CMT]

3. something is wrong

but maybe I read it wrong. It says Mr. Dean was son of John Dean, an aide to Richard Nixon and also the brother of Howard Dean, leading Democrat in race for president...

John Dean and Howard Dean are not relations to my knowledge.

[bushisanidiot]

4. John Dean is Howard Dean's Dad?!!! What?

from the linked article:

"Mr Sharman had been a journalist in Darwin and Sydney. Mr Dean, 24, was the son of John Dean, a former adviser to US president Richard Nixon.

He was also the brother of Howard Dean, who is leading the race to be the Democrat candidate in the 2004 United States presidential election.

Col. O'Hara said Mr Dean's family had been told of the discovery.

"The family's been notified," he said.

"They're very grateful."

Herald Sun"

[Lydia Leftcoast]

7. I think the article is wrong about one of those relationships

John Dean was only in his 30s during Watergate, which means that he could be at the most in his 60s. Howard Dean is what? Somewhere in his 50s?

No way are they father and son.

[drfemoe]

19. Howard Dean

turned 55 yesterday, Nov 17.

[eyesroll]

11. Howard Dean's full birth name is Howard Brush Dean III

His late father was Howard Brush Dean Jr.

It should also be noted that John Dean was 31 in 1970, when he became Nixon's counsel. If he was born in 1939, he would have been 9 when Howard Dean was born.

So, yes, this is wrong.

[Merlin]

22. This was corrected. See #21 above. n/t

.

[54anickel]

8. Here's a story of Howard Deans brother....

http://www.aiipowmia.com/inter22/in021502vt.html

On edit, a better one:
http://timesargus.nybor.com/Legislature/Story/42048.html

There has been plenty of information, though, about Charles Dean and Sharman, partly because they were civilians and partly because of the connections of Howard Dean Sr., who was a classmate at Yale University of Charles S. Whitehouse, then the U.S. ambassador to Laos. The elder Dean, who was then a vice president of Reynolds Securities in New York, also had developed connections in the region while living in China, Asia and India.

[goforit]

9. You won't see bush paying tribute to him either!!!

All my sincere sympathy, Dean!!

[Jerseycoa]

13. Condolences

Yes, we can all be glad Howard Dean and his family can finally grieve their terrible loss.

[Demobrat]

10. Howard Dean is Howard Brush Dean the third.

This can't be true. The part about being related to John Dean, anyway. If that were true we would know.

[RandomKoolzip]

12. So the corpse is....who?

Howard's brother or John's son? It can't be both, so who is it? My sympathies to both men and their families; maybe this brings some closure, but it's also pretty damn tragic.

[Demobrat]

20. Howard's brother was killed over there.

It could be him. The part about him being connected to John Dean is wrong, though.

[Whoa_Nelly]

17. Sent news.com.au an email

re: their mistake.
They have a page for feedback and you can select rom the drop down menu "-a mistake in one of your stories".

Here's the link if you want them to retract and print the truth re: Dean:
http://news.com.au/feedback/

[gate of the sun]

18. why were they in Laos in 1974

on searching on google Neil Sharman was a journalist and Dean was a " tourist". It seems strange that they would find them right now. I tried to figure out what kind of journalist Neil Sharman was but could not.

[KaraokeKarlton]

42. They've been looking for them for years

Dean went over himself a year or two ago to help look. They had a general idea of the area where his remains were, but didn't know the exact spot. I suppose it's possible that those looking put forth more of an effort to find Charlie's remains just because his brother is running for president, but Dean would not have left his brother's remains there if he knew where they were. He's been looking for a long time.

[AntiCoup2K4]

23. news.com.au is a MURDOCH site

Notice how the layout is remarkably similar to FAUXNews.com??

Could it be that the "accidental" misprint of John Dean being related to Howard Dean be designed to create the false impression that the Doc is related to a Watergate criminal.

It would be the type of thing FAUX does all the time (i.e. the recent Feith memo/lie printed in the Weakly Standard)

[54anickel]

24. Plant a seed, then quitely correct it later when no one will catch it and

perception is already taking root.

[atre]

25. John Dean was not a watergate criminal

he was just about the only guy to come out of the deal smelling like roses.

[Oreegone]

30. Howar Dean is not John Deans Son No Matter what FAUX News says

Please don't ever be surprised at the depths of stupidy they will go to that's why they call it FAUX News.

[KaraokeKarlton]

40. Charlie was Howard Dean's brother

but John Dean is no relation to them. Their father's name was Howard Brush Dean II. The rest of the information sounds about right, though...except that they got the wrong guy as the father of Charlie and Howard Dean.

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