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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:19 AM
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From CNN: Arrest Warrant Issued for Michael Jackson
According to the Court TV reporter who broke the original story. When the Police searched Michael's house yesterday, they had an arrest warrant in hand and would have taken him into custody if he were at home.

She said to expect more information on this during the press conference coming up at 11 AM PST.

She also said that the current boy's family have been placed in some sort of 'protective custody'

She also was speculating that, if Jackson leaves Nevada without turning himself in, he will also be charged with fleeing and it will become a Federal case? Not too sure on that front.

-darknemus
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:21 AM
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1. This type of news is what is making it possible for repugs to steal the US
n/t
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:00 AM
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11. Why do you think so?
Please explain.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:17 AM
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14. I imagine LittleApple81 considers this a distraction from the real news
The timing is pretty useful for Bush, isn't it.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:37 AM
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19. Turn your attention to the north and I'll go south, 'eh?
The White House direct link to the whore networks is now buying time while Michael will be 24/7- Now was that hard to figure out?
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:58 AM
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33. So the White House ordered this?
is that what you're saying? Karl Rove (or Unka Dick or whoever) picked up the phone and asked the authorities in LA to pretend that Jackson has been accused of molestation and then called up a judge asked him/her to draw up a baseless warrent?

Or did they recruite a 12 year old CIA agent to "seduce" jackson so they'd have the "goods" on him when needed. Activate Distract the Masses plan 1,972! The sleeper agent then makes his accusation after reading a code word in the LA Times?

:eyes:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:08 AM
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37. Sounds like your on the same page, 'eh?
Now let us go and watch our favorite whore channel and listen every time pervert Jackson takes a piss.

Get real baby!! :eyes:
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:14 AM
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43. I don't get it then
just what are you saying? Eityher this was planned as a distraction from the Monkey-King in England or its coincidence. Which is it according to you?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:42 AM
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23. Michael Jackson is NOT significant to what is happening in the
country. The news that fascinate the US public distracts us from the REAL issues. And placing ENORMOUS attention and emphasis on news about a sick individual just derails examination of the real problems in our society.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:13 AM
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42. Thanks for the explanation.
That's just what I needed.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:23 AM
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2. So why were they in such a hurry
to raid his house? Why didn't they wait until he got back from his trip to do the raid and arrest him then? Oh, it couldn't have anything to do with distracting the sheeple while W was flying into London?

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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:26 AM
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3. My guess is..
That their entire goal was to simply gather evidence. I may be a bit less of a conspiracy theorist than some around here, but I honestly don't think the Police really were concerned with the specific timing of the search. I guess what I'm saying is I dont think it was done just to distract from dorkboy going to London.

I think Jackson has.. issues - and I, for one, am hoping that he sees Justice done swiftly and strongly in this case. Preying on children is just so very, very wrong.

-darknemus
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:28 AM
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4. Ordinarily I'd be full of conspiratorial suspicion, but THIS has been
building for a LONG time. Michael Jackson is in a class by himself. Or SHOULD be. "Sharing your bed" my ASS!
I, too, hope justice is done. He's been buying his way around it for far too long.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:31 AM
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5. I'd rather raid someone house when they weren't there.
Of course I'd also set up an arrest scene for that person whereever they happened to be at the time.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:35 AM
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7. Perhaps it's because ...
he is a fucking pedophile. It is absolutely disgraceful that this prevert was allowed to continue his campaign of child molestation for so long (even after he paid off other childrens parents to be silent).

It is a distraction from AWOL, but don't worry. The Brits have everything undercontrol.

What is most important right now is getting this pedophile off the streets, and in prison where he take a bit of what he has been giving out.

Cheers
Drifter
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:52 AM
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8. Agree - 100%
what kind of parents take payoffs for pain caused to their children? Pedophiles CANNOT be rehabed!
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:25 AM
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49. Exactly
The whole thing stinks. What kind of parents let their child go to his home. Jackson does not kidnap these children, parents hand them over. Jackson and the parents should be arrested if he did anything to those children.

:wtf:



:freak:
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:55 AM
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9. the dangers of "civilization"
One of the bad things about becoming so civilized is that we grow to rely on the courts and the police too much. I don't know a single person who has any doubts Jackson is a pedophile. So why do we tolerate him sleeping in the same bed with children? Because he's famous and he has money.

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RememberTheCoup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:21 AM
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15. Personally, I like "civilization."
What is the alternative to relying on the courts and police? Lynch mobs?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:07 AM
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13. Nice to see all the government apologists
coming out on this one. There is nothing in my post that had anything to do with the merits of this case and/or what should be done to bring MJ to justice if indeed these charges are true. MJ should have been put away the first time around. The fact that the guy has grown up to be one sick puppy is nothing new.

My post was in regards to the timing and the distraction it is creating from covering W's Big Disaster in England Vacation. With my tinfoil firmly in place, my point is that the timing of this event is politically motivated and if that is true the implications are rather disgusting.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:17 AM
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45. Then why didn't they wait until he was home?
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 10:26 AM by 0007
Sounds like a simple plan to me, 'eh? Why is this pervert any different than the others? Don't worry the police has everything under control. LOL!


Is that Michael Jackson standing in the background?

/c' ya, I'm out of here - This is a stupid thread to begin with.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:32 AM
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6. oh no, now it's going to be Laci/Jacko/Malvo
and not much room for the real news
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:56 AM
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10. don't forget kobe
the whores must be really getting off on all that right now.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:02 AM
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12. It's a veritable extravaganza of televised distractions!! If that...
...doesn't work, they can always play the "terrorism" card.

Those NeoCons will do anything to hold onto power, even if they feel it falling from their grasp.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:35 AM
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18. If not Jacko, then something else...
Shark attacks, freeway shooters--hell, they'd even dig up J-Lo and Ben again.

I'm just glad someone is finally working on bringing this scary son-of-a-bitch into the justice system. It was painful obvious to almost everyone that he is a clear and present danger to himself and to children. The people that let him get away with his nonsense for so long should be brought up on charges with him.
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:27 AM
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16. Am i the only one who thinks the world is a little harsh on Jackson?
I honestly feel he has a lot of psychological issues to deal with, and he needs serious help. But you are sounding like conservatives wuith the whole lock them up and throw away the key philosophy. Its 2003 and with the aid of psychology we know its an inante pathological disorder. i don't want to be the apologists for them, Lord knows i railed against the catholic church but thats different. They are suppose to be the gods of the earth and are sanctimonius and hypocritical. Jacko is an affable chracter forsooth an arcane one. What ever happened to the liberals wanting to rehabilitate and aid ofenders, i would hate to see someone locked away forever, even if it took chemical castration, no one deserves to live in bedlam with no one looking to aid.
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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:31 AM
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17. I concur
But he does need to be dealt with (If allegations are proven).

I heard the most amazing defence of Jackson on T.V the other day.

Apparently he's so different as to be impossible to understand. Therefore we can't hold him to normal standards.

My brain nearly blew up.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:38 AM
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20. That sounds a lot like the definition
Of "legally insane."
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:39 AM
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21. If the dude picked up 18-20 year old twinks that'd be one thing
but he's messing around with 12 & 13 year olds whose cognitive development can be seriously twisted by sexual abuse. For all his oddities, money and pretentions, I don't see him all that different from the usual, run of the mill, abuser.

I agree that he needs serious treatment (although that form of treatment has a low success and high recidivism rate). But he also needs to be segregated from society- and I'm not talking some fantasy camp like Neverland.
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:46 AM
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26. Has anyone else noticed this/quite odd
Christ have mercy on my soul. I went over to antagonize freepers and they were already over this. How are they managing to use this as a catylyst for thier abnegation of homosexuality, they say nothing of heterosexual encounters (polygamy, priests etc) Think about many of these atni gay groups that masquerade as loving and kind and offer groups often arrange for there members (male, female) to have "Dates to expose them to the wonders of God". I dunno what happened to that bullshit no sex before marriage thing they were always acting to stodgy about. This happened on the same day as the mass. ruling and that pisses me off, by the way everyone keeps thinking this is to distract from the uk visit of bush, but what about the mass ruling. It was suppose to happen 4 months ago, all of a sudden this and Mj are number one. I think this is wide reaching, and im no conspiracy doctrinaire
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:42 AM
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22. I have no problem locking up pedophiles and tossing the key...
they are not likely to be 'rehabilitated.'

Also, imagine the prison their victims live in daily?

Sorry, no mercy here. :shrug:

Though, I have not concluded anything about Jackson, and will await more information before doing so.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:49 AM
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28. He should feel quite at home in prison.
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rooddood743 Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:10 AM
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40. Perhaps a little perspective...
(I realize I'm jumping into the minefield with both feet; but I'm doing it with eyes open. Here goes...)


Yeah, harming kids is grotesque. But why do people always go so ballistic over sexual crimes, yet don't seem to get so riled up over other crimes commited against kids? A kid with a toothache or strep throat (and no medical care) hurts a helluva lot more than one getting fondled. You can make a recovery from molestation, but you don't ever recover from a drunk father beating you to death.

Yup, sex crimes against kids are really, really bad. (I'm not suggesting otherwise; Remember that when you are composing your outraged response)

But there are other things that are worse.

Why are'nt you advocating locking THEM up, and throwing away the key?
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:18 AM
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46. You make a valid point, i agree, i find a child without healthcare just as
iniquitous
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:44 AM
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24. Not harsh enough
I don't care WHAT psychological issues he has. If he is molesting children (anyone here doubt that?) then there is no prison term long enough for him. Molesters molest, it's what they do. They do get cured. They don't stop. They just destroy innocent lives. Perhaps he too was molested as a child. I can't help that. He's an adult now and he is a threat to children.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:49 AM
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27. I guess that he's guilty until proven innocent, huh?
At least in today's U.S., in the Court of Public Opinion- muddleoftheroad presiding.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:55 AM
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31. OK, do you doubt he's a pedophile?
After decades of this crap, I do not.

Normally, I'd give ANYONE the benefit of the doubt. But there is a point where that becomes ridiculous. How many witnesses have been bought off? How many complaints ended because of cash? I see an amazing criminal conspiracy here.
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:19 AM
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47. I can't judge him. If he is, then he is what he is, however all we
have is conjecture. Lets not trample the dolorus arcane of our society
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:52 AM
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29. As a recovering addict i can't cast forth stones of judgement..........
People said the same thing about me. I had managed to steal (kleptomania) and use without contrition. I had hurt a lot of people in the past (economically) and i noticed one thing, i coudlnt help it until i found help, my old ilk has a high recidivision rate also. People are bord with certain tendacies, whats the difference between this and the guy with misfiring defective calcium ion transmitters, its a disease, when do we lock up aids patiens? cancer patiens? this happens to be a (many) diseases that harm others true. But honestly can anyone here say in 300 years our scions wont look on us with disgust for treating our iniquitous fellow man with such cruelty.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:58 AM
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32. Disease
If you had a disease we could not reliably cure and you were deadly to others, yes we would lock you up.

I'm sorry, I have NO sympathy for pedophiles. Zero. None. I don't care if it's a disease or not, it impacts the lives of others. And those lives, INNOCENT lives matter more to me.
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:02 AM
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34. I just don't see the humanity in forsaking our sallied brother/sisters....
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 10:11 AM by Socialist Christian
.without a chance at a life, it just seems so acrimonius and fundamentalist christian like
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:03 AM
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35. Acrimonious?
To lock up predators who rape children? If our society DIDN'T lock them up, we would be bizarre.
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:09 AM
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38. Im not saying don't, but rehabilitation should be the goal..........
I have been surrounded by this my entire life, and seen the effects on many of a friend. However i have had the contretamps of seeing and knowing people who acted on thier desires, maybe im taking the Christ road a little to an extreme extent, i just feel the goal should be to help and cure and have them aggregate into society, maybe with chemical castration, and live productively. I've seen too times of pedophiles in my live, the violent rapist, the one who you want to see hanged, and the Humbert Humbert's who are just different, allbeit unnacceptably.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:12 AM
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41. Only if you can guarantee it
If you can't guarantee success, I'd never let them out. EVER.

Sorry, all pedophiles are rapists -- some are more violent than others that's all. If you wish to minister to them, more power to you. But do it behind very high walls.
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:16 AM
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44. I agree. If they can't then they must be segregated..................
from society, but we have to offer them a fighting chance. By the way im no minister, i keep my mouth shut unless im activistic, the right has destroyed proselytising. I will concede i tend to look at this from a psychological viewpoint rather than normal. I would just feel so guilty for being a part of the uncivil and indecorous accusations bound to arize in a 100 years
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:30 AM
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50. I Don't Think It's Possible To Be Harsh Enough
On people who manipulate a child's boundaries - or lack of them - to exploit said kid for their own purposes. Child molesters rob their victims of the ability to trust.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:45 AM
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25. When an arrest warrant is issued for Rush Limbaugh, wake me up
Does this mean that Michael will be arrested when he returns to California?


rocknation
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:55 AM
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30. I believe he should reside in France for awhile. Like polanski
but he was guilty to the best of my knowledge. At least until this blows over, or hes found guilty in absentia
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:05 AM
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36. Im not saying run to run like Luster, that came out the wrong way........
If i was convicted for something i know i didnt do and had to go into exile i would. However he is rich and can afford bail similar to r kelly so no he shouldnt, for us who can;t i mean thats what i would do rather than stay in jail during a trail, hope that doesnt make me a poltroon
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Socialist Christian Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:10 AM
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39. Alright i'll set my give you a ring, 15 minutes after a blizzard in hell
<nt>
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 10:19 AM
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48. Hmmmm, nobody must be watching Kobe or Scott these days
I'm sure this trial will be just the distraction the media whores need to get everybody's mind off soldiers in body bags that they won't show.
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