Discovery prompts more concern about Iran nukes (is this new?)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

the date says today, but at the bottom of the article it says...
(Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved.)


May 12, 2006
Discovery prompts more concern about Iran nukes

VIENNA, Austria - A discovery by U.N. nuclear watchdogs is fueling new concerns that Iran may be hiding weapons-making activities.

Diplomats say the U.N. atomic agency has found traces of highly enriched uranium at an Iranian site tied to Tehran's defense ministry.

And the agency believes the uranium is dense enough to be close to or beyond weapons-grade.

bit more - http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=85852

[ixion]

1. blah blah blah... it's still no reason to nuke them

IMO.

[kenny blankenship]

3. Yeah well I heard that Iran was crossing grizzly bears and polar bears

in their underground weapons laboratories; and that was from an impeccable Regnery published author, with TWO mail order degrees, who was being interviewed on FOX News.

Go ahead and try to shrug that one off, you liberal Smartypants!

[mike_c]

2. if it's true, the uranium is VERY UNLIKELY to have come from...

...Iran's home grown enrichment program. They've only just achieved a very modest enrichment of a very small quantity of uranium.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. I agree. I just don't know if it's new propaganda

or recycled from last year.

:shrug:

[leveymg]

10. Similar find turned out to be residue from Paki P-2 centrifuges

Apparently, Iran had puchased them used from Pakistan, and they came with traces of enriched uranium.

[OKNancy]

5. Reuters link dated today

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=712652006

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. Much better link - thanks! nt

[HuffleClaw]

7. "found"

iirc, the americans were caught once already 'seeding' iranian sites with stuff, would have been a year ago maybe?

[jpak]

8. This is old news (2005) and has been resolved

The IAEA did find *very small amounts* of HEU in some of the centrifuges Iran procured from Pakistan.

They determined, however, to everyone's satisfaction, that the HEU was of Pakistani - not I-ranian - origin.

File this story under Neocon Propaganda...

[Viva_La_Revolution]

9. actually it was 2003 for the Pakistani stuff...

read the link from OKNancy, it details the previous find, and states this is new.

It's still propaganda though.

[shadowknows69]

11. More Uranium Reportedly Found in Iran

<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060512/ap_on_re_mi_ea/nuclear_agency_iran_3;_ylt=AtoR29QgiNhrxJXyXfDAcn5Sw60A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl>

Oh shit. Sorry about the megalink.

[Singular73]

12. This is bad...

Highly enriched?

Yikes.

[HuffleClaw]

13. what this is VERY VERY convenient

and highly suspect too.

[KansDem]

30. Yeah, makes you think the Bushistas learned from their Iraq mistake

and are actually planting some of the "evidence" before invading.

Of course, exposing a covert American intelligence operation that was tracking this stuff in the middle East, essentially shutting down any monitoring of this kind of thing, also helped.

[stepnw1f]

15. You Believe This?

LOLOLOLOL....

[shadowknows69]

16. No, but it helps beat those war drums doesn't it?

n/t

[stepnw1f]

19. Oh... Is That Your Intention? (nt)

[shadowknows69]

26. No, of course not. Just passing along LBN

easy friend I'm on your side I assure you.

[stepnw1f]

29. I Know You Are

I've read your posts. I should have inserted: :P Sorry.

[Ian David]

14. Is it a "Slam Dunk"? n/t

[pinniped]

17. More Assholes found in the wh.

.

[savemefromdumbya]

18. they have uranium in Canada too

[casual hex]

20. Wow, amazing timing

Yes, of COURSE they found more Uranium in Iran. And why wouldn't they? And did you know the piece they found had a sticky note on it reading "To be used to wipe Israel off the map."

How many times do these neocon sewage think they can get away with this?

[Roland99]

22. UNSC MUST ACT NOW! MUSHROOM CLOUD SPOTTED FORMING!

AAAAHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGAAAHHH!!!!

[Roland99]

21. Hmmm, Plame outed, CIA damaged in Iran, US working with MEK

Excuse me while I scoff at this probable plant.

[Tempest]

23. Anonomous diplomats say

American diplomats?

Bolton?

[VegasWolf]

24. Jeff Gannon. nt

[lumpy]

25. Information of this nature is kept

under strict wraps so it is difficult to know the truth. It is uspicious since it comes from unnamed diplomats. What would be the reason for spreading this news, great propaganda?

[Tempest]

27. The timing coincides with the phone records scandal

How convvvvenient!

[BrotherBuzz]

28. Do they have enough to fill the test tube Rice needs....

to go to the UN. Jeez louise, talk about catapulting the propaganda.

[Julius Civitatus]

31. Keywords: "The diplomats, who demanded ANONYMITY in exchange for revealing

said the findings were preliminary and still had to be confirmed through other lab tests."

Get it... ANONYMOUS SOURCES!!!

Does it sound familiar?

[lumpy]

33. Yes unconfirmed, but the damage has

been done. Some people will not look past the initial unconfirmed report.

[Julius Civitatus]

34. Smells of Bolton

The rancid, acrid aroma of the mustachioed bastard seems to pervade this convenient news release.

[alfredo]

32. A fix for mega links

go to http://tinyurl.com and past the URL in the window provided. The end product will look like this:
http://tinyurl.com/erlo4

[slackmaster]

35. Tagged and a kick

:popcorn:

[Radio_Guy]

36. So frigging what?

If they want nukes to protect their country, why shouldn't they have it? I would prefer all countries, including the US, get rid of them all. But that's not going to happen. So who are we to tell anyone else they can't have nukes if we have them? How will Iran defend themselves if Israel were to attack them with their nukes?

[Javaman]

37. Do they actually say an amount? no.

if Iran was actually making this stuff, they had to have started sometime after their revolution. Because with the few and I mean few (180) centrifuges they have it would take them years, minimum 13, to make weapons great nuclear material.

Also if they had a secret plant making this stuff with thousands of centrifuges, the heat signature would be seen from space, because it would require an enormous amount of power to run such a facility.

More than likely, I bet they got whatever small amount they possess, (if any of this is actually true) from N. Korea or some sort of black market op.

No way in hell do I or will I ever believe that they have manufactured 90% pure weapons grade material.

[Moderator]

38. Kick

[originalpckelly]

39. AP and New York Times: U.N. Finds New Uranium Traces in Iran

This time it isn't a joke, but I would be highly suspicious of this news. :-(

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/13/world/middleeast/13iran.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Atomic inspectors have found traces of highly enriched uranium on equipment linked to an Iranian military base, raising new questions about whether Iran harbors a clandestine program to make nuclear bombs, diplomats said yesterday.

It is the second such discovery in three years of United Nations inspections in Iran. As the Security Council debates how to handle the atomic impasse with Tehran, the finding is likely to deepen skepticism about Iran's claims that its program is entirely peaceful.

Also report in the USA Today for those who don't want to register with the NYT:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-05-12-iranianuranium_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

VIENNA (AP) — The U.N. atomic agency found traces of highly enriched uranium at an Iranian site linked to the country's defense ministry, diplomats said Friday, adding to concerns that Tehran was hiding activities aimed at making nuclear arms.

The diplomats, who demanded anonymity in exchange for revealing the confidential information, said the findings were preliminary and still had to be confirmed through other lab tests. But they said the density of enrichment appeared to be close to or above the level used to make nuclear warheads.

Still, they said, further analysis could show that the traces match others established to have come from abroad. The International Atomic Energy Agency determined earlier traces of weapons-grade uranium were imported on equipment from Pakistan that Iran bought on the black market during nearly two decades of clandestine activity discovered just over three years ago.

Uranium enriched to between 3.5% and 5% is used to make fuel for reactors to generate electricity. It becomes suitable for use in nuclear weapons when enriched to more than 90%.

[anitar1]

40. Bullshit. n/t

[Tiggeroshii]

41. I've been seeing shit recycled the last few days.

I already saw this once. Morefearmongering shit to build a case for an Iran attack. The dumbshit times are gonna be ahead of the fray again at trying to convince people it's the right decision. Hopefully they won't be as gullible this time.

[Erika]

46. Only the 28% to 31% non-thinking Bushbots will remain gullible

Interesting.

[seemunkee]

42. I won't register to read it but

Who are these inspectors and has this been confirmed by another source? otherwise I call shenanigans.

[Erika]

43. Is the United States programs entirely peaceful n/t

[stopbush]

44. Is Judy Miller back on the Times payroll?

To recap: Iran is PERFECTLY WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS AS A SIGNATORY TO THE NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION
TREATY to ENRICH URANIUM for use in REACTORS.

Unless the "highly enriched uranium" mentioned in this story is above the 90% needed for weapons-grade
enrichment, then this is a non-story if not a lie.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

45. "Traces"

is the operative word here.

They found 'traces' in 2003 too, turned out to be contamination from used parts bought from Pakistan.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

55. And the phrase, "appeared to be".

[originalpckelly]

47. Here are other sites, I forgot I am a member of NYT...

This is the USA Today Article
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-05-12-iranianuranium_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

I am worried Bush fucker will use this to his advantage.

[originalpckelly]

48. Definitely could be left overs in equipment...

I will hope to God it is. Bush could use this to fuck up another country in this world. I'm not a praying man, but let's pray for the poor people of Iran. You don't know how sad this makes me.

[EFerrari]

49. Iran immigration Iran immigration Iran immigration Iran immigration

You are getting sleepy.

[HuffleClaw]

50. i predicted this

that they'd make a convenient 'discovery' to 'prove' the 'evil kitten-stomping intentions' of the iranians.

[originalpckelly]

51. That is the craziest conspiracy theory I have ever heard...

but I believe it entirely.

[BrotherBuzz]

52. You need to better boys. Condi needs a full test tube to make her...

pitch to the UN.

[originalpckelly]

53. Wow, that sounds so wrong!!!

I can see the headline:
"Condi Getting Herself Knocked-up"

[Media_Lies_Daily]

54. One more anti-Iranian brick added to the propaganda file...

...the "density of enrichment appeared to be close to or above the level used to make nuclear warheads."

And they could tell that by what method of scientific evaluation?

[originalpckelly]

57. I know...

I mean you can't look at the crap, you have to use like a geiger counter or something to determine its radioactivity.

I warned about this before, but I believe in a free flow of information. BushCo just has to put out the story, and even if it is complete bullshit, it will still stay in the minds of people. That is how it always works out. Just look at Iraq.

[Up2Late]

56. Well I bet I have traces of Cat Sh*t on the carpets in my house, but...

...it doesn't mean one of my cats to a dump on the carpet.

What BS, you need a hell of a lot more Uranium than a trace to make a bomb!

[originalpckelly]

58. You're telling me...

How the hell did they even know it was highly enriched, without knowing for sure?