Bin Laden on the Move; New Sightings in Pakistan

[ECH1969]

Pakistani government sources tell ABC News they have "credible reports" that Osama bin Laden and his entourage have moved down from high mountainous peaks along the Afghan border to a valley area 40 miles inside the Pakistan border.

The officials say the reports put bin Laden around Kohistan's Kumrat Valley.

Officials said the reports were validated by the release of bin Laden's audio tape yesterday, which appears to have been recorded only two weeks earlier.

Such a quick turn-around suggests, say the officials, that bin Laden is much closer to civilization than he had been previously.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/05/bin_laden_on_th.html

[yurbud]

1. Bushies desperate, spider hole photo op coming in time for midterm...

[ECH1969]

3. Any idea what kind of bounce the Bushies would get for pulling

Bin Laden or Zarqawi out of a hat come July or August?

[jseankil]

9. I think credit would go towards the military, not political leaders.

[yurbud]

20. Zarqawi 0, Bin Laden 10-20% for a couple of weeks max

[ECH1969]

22. Bush got a 7-10 point bounce from the first Iraqi election

and about a 5 point bounce from the final one in December.

You might not know it, but Zarqawi actually is quite well known by the 60% of Americans who pay any real attention to the news. The number of searchs for his name aren't that different then Bin Laden's.

What he isn't known by is the idioic masses that pay little to no attention to the news. Bin Laden however is a name the idiot masses know of as the TV forced them to pay attention to him in the months after 911.

The only time Zarqawi had the number of online searches close to where Bin Laden was at in the months after 911 according to google trends was in the weeks after Nick Berg was beheaded. The beheading of Nick Berg was the most watched video of 2004 according to MSN even beating out the Super Bowl nipple video.

So, yes I do think Zarqawi is a big enough enemy in the eyes of the public to pull Bush up ten points if he was caught. But, Bin Laden is much better known by the idiot masses which would add another 5 to 10 points to Bush's numbers if they catch him.

[yurbud]

24. Even if most people missed the story that propaganda exaggerates Zarqawi's

importance, I doubt that he would produce as much of a bump as Saddam's spider hole capture.

The only people who will be impressed will be the knuckledraggers who barely manage to find Fox News on cable.

People of at least average intelligence probably instinctively know Zarqawi's capture will mean nothing, and if they don't, they will quickly figure it out when it has no impact on the isurgency, just like the elections and capture of Saddam.

[ECH1969]

26. To the insurgency catching Zarqawi doesn't matter much

But, to international terrorism Zarqawi matters far far more then Bin Laden at this point. Who do you think is behind the bombings in Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, and other suicide attacks in the region? Zarqawi is in the perfect place for a terrorist. He is at the center of the Middle East where all the jihadists are coming to fight the US and he is sending these people to Jordan, Egypt, Europe and elsewhere to build on his networks for future attacks.

[yurbud]

33. longer this stuff goes on, the more I wonder if terror attacks in other

places isn't just local disgruntled types rather than this disgruntled boogeyman network.

What we have done with al Qaeda is the equivalent of Britain getting hit by the IRA and then deciding that they are at war with all of Catholicism instead of Irish nationalists.

[Phoonzang]

25. I'd say 40-50 percent. n/t

[marmar]

2. In a casket, maybe...

I'm sorry, but I just don't buy it. My feeling is that he's been six feet under for some time now. They can produce all the doctored videotapes they want to - they need to keep the myth of bin Laden alive to continue their raping and pillaging of democracy.

[bigscott]

4. they will come up with him

in the summer - dead or alive, identifiable or not. they will not go quietly - but I wonder how much OBL would help now??

[maxsolomon]

5. nuke it

yes, :sarcasm:

you don't move down from the peaks in spring. you go up - he's not a bear.

[shadowknows69]

23. I'm telling you

he's in Paris with Jim Morrison, Elvis and Jerry Garcia. They're thinking about starting a blues band.

[Nickster]

6. Remember how they said they had Zawahairi surrounded awhile back?

This "sighting" allows them to run some meaningless raids on an uninhabited area and then claim that they are really working hard on the war on terror because they had credible intelligence and acted on it, but then he just got away.

Why telegraph your intelligence to the world media, the US media in particular? Especially before any substantial operations had occurred? "Hey Bin-Laden, we see you, yes we do...."

[TheVirginian]

11. "Pakistani Sources tell ABC World News..."

[uppityperson]

7. Osama spotted at the Laundromat, Elvis just left!

I will believe it when I see it.

[leesa]

8. And Americans fall for the fairytale again...

[jobycom]

10. Yeah, cause we're all stupid except you

:P

[Bucky]

14. Well, I know I'm stupid. I think this sighting has to do w/Bush marriage.

I think the reason George and Laura are splitting up is because she's secretly in love with Osama. So tall, so virile.

[jobycom]

18. ROFL! And his eyes! They are to die for! nt

[Az_lefty]

12. Pakistan? I just saw him in the Circle K at Kolb & Broadway...

[UpInArms]

13. yep, he was traveling with his videographer and wearing flowing robes

[spinbaby]

15. Wow, Rove must really be in trouble

They're bringing out the Osama distraction big time.

[Writer]

17. Link to my post yesterday on the bin Laden tapes. I need everyone's help!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2643504&mesg_id=2643504

[bdamomma]

32. bring out the boogeyman Rove says

scare those Americans!

[Writer]

16. What. Fucking. Ever.

And look at the amazing resources and military we're sending to the region because of this news? Why is it that ABC appears to know more than the Pentagon?

[SlavesandBulldozers]

19. didn't we catch him when we invaded freedom hating Iraq?

I'm so confused. . .

Dah well Nascar's on anyway. . .

[yurbud]

21. boy, it's too bad we don't have a way to go up mountains or

look at them from space, or even have some soldiers hike up there.


If I'm ever on the outs with the world's only superpower, I'll have to remember to head for high ground where they can't reach me.

If Hitler had fled Berlin and pitched his tent on the Matterhorn, he might still be alive today.

[icnorth]

27. Bin Laden on the Move; New Sightings in Pakistan...

in the area around Pakistan and Afghanistan, and east, west, south and north somewhat.

[Rex]

28. LBN - Benny just sited in new adaptation of Springtime for Hitler!

"One my face? Where?"

[acmavm]

29. Maybe we should just check with his travel agent. The guy gets around

so much, he must have one. Especially with all that medical equipment he has to drag along.

[Terry in Austin]

30. In a related story...

Elvis sighted at local Seven-Eleven

[Eurobabe]

31. Potemkin Osama? On the move with his dialysis machine?

Well, smack my ass!

[michael_1166]

34. Must be a casket with wheels he's travellin' in

Can you hear his bones rattling? ;-)
The only true Bin Laden tape anyone could record nowadays would be a tribal percussion tape, not made by, but made of...

[pezdespencer]

35. I thought I saw him at the Quik-E Mart with a slurpee in hand last night

[HuffleClaw]

36. the BOOGEYMAN !!!!

a faked 'bin laden killing' would give 'em a boost that would last about 12 hours. then, the bad guys would retaliate, proving bush hasn't really accomplished a thing. or bin laden would release a video proving he's not actually dead. either way, some bush stunt isn't gonna do 'em any good.