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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 11:45 AM
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CIA Authenticates Bin Laden Tape

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-05-24-voa26.cfm

CIA Authenticates Bin Laden Tape

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has confirmed that it is Osama bin Laden's voice on an audiotape that was released Tuesday on the Internet.

The CIA says it made that determination after a technical analysis of the tape.

In the recording, bin Laden said imprisoned terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui had nothing to do with the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

Bin Laden said he personally assigned what he called the "19 brothers" to carry out the attacks, referring to the 19 hijackers, and that Moussaoui was not one of them.


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 11:46 AM
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1. "I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 11:51 AM
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2. How the CIA authenticated...
Sam: "Hey John, did bin Laden make this tape?"

John: "Yeah, he used his White House credit card to buy the blank tapes.
See, it's right here on his monthly expense report..."

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:22 PM
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8. rats, you beat me to it, and better written, I might add.
I was going to say they authenticated it by grabbing the master off the coworker's desk.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:58 PM
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26. Also authenticated by the CIA : invisible spiders, ghosts of Ronald Reagan
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:37 PM
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33. You hit the nail on the head!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:22 AM
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37. LOL
And for that, the taxpayer paid about $10 million for a special "terrorist surveillance and accounting program"
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 11:54 AM
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3. Add to this tape: US Embassy in Japan Warns of Possible Threat - Reuters
...and what do we have?


US Embassy in Japan Warns of Possible Threat - Reuters

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

TOKYO (Reuters) - The United States embassy said on Wednesday it had received a possible threat against U.S. facilities in Japan and urged U.S. citizens to exercise caution. "The U.S. Embassy has learned of a possible threat against American facilities in Japan, the credibility of which has yet to be determined," the U.S. embassy in Tokyo said in a statement.

"Given the upcoming Memorial Day holiday, we advise American citizens to exercise caution and report any suspicious activities to authorities." America's Memorial Day holiday is on Monday, May 29.

Japan's top government spokesman, Shinzo Abe, said he had no information that suggested there would be an attack in Japan. "We do not have any concrete information that a terrorist attack will be carried out in Japan," he told reporters.

Since the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, security has been tight around the U.S. embassy and other facilities related to the United States in Japan.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:58 PM
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35. ...the credibility of which has yet to be determined...
...the credibility of which has yet to be determined," the U.S. embassy in Tokyo said in a statement...

And this:

"We do not have any concrete information that a terrorist attack will be carried out in Japan," he told reporters.


FDR said we have nothing to fear but fear itself. I guess Bush & Co. thought fear itself was a good thing.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 11:56 AM
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4. And who runs the CIA?
You've got to be kidding. They'll say or do whatever is most beneficial to bu$hit. Doesn't matter if it's true, legal, humane, ethical, or not.

They're part of the friggin George W. Gestapo. Can't trust them.
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:08 PM
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7. so which is it?
is it "shrub has messed with the cia too much and now they're getting back at him"

or

"the cia is a part of the new gestapo"

it's hard to keep straight sometimes. It being bin laden is 100x more damaging to this administration. We should welcome these messages as proof of *'s incompetence, not as rovian manipulations.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:23 PM
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9. its both: are you not aware of the purging and compartmentalizing
groups loyal to bush within the CIA?

have you been paying attention?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:25 PM
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10. all of the above (n/t)
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:32 PM
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11. I'm wondering the same thing...
if it's a fake commissioned by the Bush administration, then why are they purposefully trying to make themselves look like fools?

On the other hand, it's just a little too convenient that while bin laden purportedly dispels Moussaoui's claims of being involved in the 9/11 plot, oddly enough he goes on to validate all of the administrations claims about 9/11 and finally claims responsibility?

My head hurts...
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 11:59 AM
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5. Somebody finally told somebody that bin laden never confessed to 9/11.
Better late than never, I suppose.
Either that or bin laden really cares enough about moussaoui to issue a tape. Uh huh.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:34 PM
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13. Thank you, important information that most readers don't know
And that tape/speech was authenticated.

I was looking for it on the web and can't find it now.

He said he didn't do it and it was done from within our government
also blamed the Jews of course.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:02 PM
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6. moussaoui was a stooge
there were probably only 2 terrorists per plane that could fly & knew the plan. the others were muscle.

19 doesn't make sense. 20 does. 20/4 = 5 per plane.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:33 PM
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12. Whose stooge is he though?
That's what has me baffled.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:39 PM
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14. 11/12 jurors wanted death penalty for him, now Osama says this?
good thing they didn't put him to death. Was any part of his conviction due to the 911 attacks (not getting into "supposed") or not, but was he convicted of that or just of wanting to hurt the USA? thanks.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:42 PM
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15. OBL is full of shit & a politician
he will lie to advance his cause as surely as * will.

he has a motive for lying regarding moussaoui.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:18 PM
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21. Can you educate me on this...?
What's the angle here?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:29 PM
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23. he's not playing to us
he's playing to muslims. he'll lie, distort, spin, just like any politician.

if moussaoui is innocent, then we're still the great satan for inflicting more injustice on muslims. if moussaoui is guilty, then OBL is admitting guilt, and that one lone juror showed mercy.

just theorizing.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:43 PM
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24. Okay, thanks...
but by the same token, couldn't it be someone else who is using OBL to play to both the muslims and to the U.S.? In other words, someone who is trying to stir the pot from both sides?

This latest supposed OBL statement is just so puzzling in my view.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 02:20 PM
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25. i tend not to buy any conspiracy theory r.e. OBL
i think he exists, he's still alive, he inspired/planned/financed 9/11, and he wants to do exactly what he says he does; make us feel the pain that we have inflicted on arabs through our actions in culture & war, both directly & through our proxy Israel, create a islamic state spanning all of arabia, and get the US/modernity to leave them alone.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:27 PM
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29. You do realize that is a conspiracy theory
right? Osama conspired to commit 9/11.

or do you mean you believe the official story?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:03 PM
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31. yes i guess i believe the official story, then
Edited on Thu May-25-06 03:04 PM by maxsolomon
i don't quite get what you're saying - the official, most logical explanation, that OBL conspired to committ 9-11, and the goals of his jihad, laid out in his letters & pronouncements, is a 'conspiracy theory' in the :tinfoilhat: sense?

or that it is still "just a theory" regarding conspiring that had to occur to accomplish the attack?

if the former, then what explanation doesn't involve a conspiracy?
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 07:37 PM
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34. We mistakenly use "conspiracy theory" to mean tin-foil
If the hypothesis is implausable, we should just call it that, and cite the reasons why. Otherwise "conspiracy theory" is a buzzword that says "everyone make fun of this guy" without the requisite explanation.

That was my point.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 05:38 PM
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30. sounds reasonable, think he's playing for the wider group too
he and Mr.bush have the same goal and same ways of acting to achieve it. Both are thugs, both want to have their group rule, both pseudo-religious.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:28 PM
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22. What would be his motive?
Yes, he is full of shit and a politician, but what motive?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:05 PM
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32. ummm, drive the infidels out of the Umma?
like he has repeatedly said his motive is?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:16 PM
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38. morning, I meant his motive for lying about Moussoui
you answered above though, thanks, am following the conversation there.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 12:53 PM
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16. Right. He's been dead since 12/2001
Now that Americans are waking up to the truth of our government's role in 9-11, it's important to raise the spectra of the bogus OBL/9-11 fairytale.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:05 PM
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17. Only a video would convince me OBL's alive. And I wouldn't believe that.
Either.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:13 PM
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18. And why should we believe ANYTHING from the CIA?
And so what?

What poster #1 wrote!
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:17 PM
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19. I forgot, is the CIA our bosom buddy today or our sworn enemy?
Cuz I know they're either one or the other.

Peace.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:18 PM
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20. Well Doh! After all, they made the tape. nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 03:57 PM
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27. The Dead Speak!
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:09 PM
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28. Link to my push to uncover the BS:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:19 AM
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36. when it was the REAL bin laden, they'd take a LONG time to do so
but when its the fake one, they 'authenticate' it in hours. pretty transparent if you asks me.
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