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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:16 PM
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Rush detects a conspiracy [New York Daily News... rush shows paranoia]
don't tell us rush... a "VAST LEFT-WING CONSPIRACY?" bwah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah!
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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/138589p-123078c.html

Rush detects a conspiracy

By CORKY SIEMASZKO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Rush Limbaugh says he's being tarred by trumped-up money-laundering claims.

"I know where this is coming from," he told his radio audience yesterday. "I know who's behind it, and I know what the purpose of the story is."

But Limbaugh, who returned to his syndicated show on Monday after five weeks in detox for painkiller addiction, wouldn't identify his nemesis.

The money-laundering probe grew out of a joint Florida and federal task force investigation of the drug ring that allegedly supplied Limbaugh with OxyContin and other prescription painkillers.

ABC reported Tuesday that Limbaugh made 30 to 40 withdrawals of just under $10,000 from his bank account and that a decision on whether to prosecute him for alleged money laundering would be made in the next few weeks. The Palm Beach County, Fla., state attorney's office declined to comment on that report.

<snip>

Limbaugh was silent on whether he spent the dough on black market painkillers he ingested by the cigar box-full.

"I was not laundering money," Limbaugh insisted. "I was withdrawing money, for crying out loud."
<snip>
Originally published on November 20, 2003
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:20 PM
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1. Who do you think it is?!?
I'm still saying it's O'Lielly & Hammitty; you ain't never seen ratings wars like this!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:23 PM
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2. i dunno... who cares! i just like seeing him squirm. and squirm. and sq
irm. and squirm.

with no pain killers to "take the edge off."
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
16. It's...
The Grassy Knoll Gang

Who has their logo?

:evilgrin:
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:24 PM
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3. Why isn't he in jail yet?
Seriously, why the fuck isn't he doing a mandatory minimum sentence in a dank Florida prison?
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yankeeinlouisiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:44 PM
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12. That's a very good question.
I just finish jury duty today in New Orleans. The guy pleaded guilty to possession of heroin before it went to trial. I don't know what sentence he received, but I doubt it was merely rehab.

I don't know why this guy had to go to jail and rush is still making $35 million a year.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:00 PM
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47. I would guess they caught that guy in possession
I haven't heard that Rush ever was caught with anything actually in his possession. I could be wrong but I would think that if he had there would have been a much bigger stink than there was.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:29 PM
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4. Rush ain't got no credit cards?
Ya mean to tell us, oxyRush, that you don't have any credit cards? That you withdrew $300,000 to $400,000 in cash for your walking around money?

'Course there is that story about you buying off the maid, in cash. Ah yes, I see what you mean, "just making withdrawals." Just glad to know that you didn't blow ALL of it on drugs.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:23 AM
Response to Reply #4
33. I guess Rush doesn't know about
Checking or credit cards.
Might be too liberal for him.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:25 AM
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42. Credit cards?
That's a good one... "Gimme three hundred illicit oxycontin and put it on my Visa card."

:crazy:

Reminds me of the quote from the Milagro Beanfield War: "You can't buy bullets with food stamps!"
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:36 AM
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46. I think the point here is that...
who uses $9,900 for walking around $$$? Rush claims he was paying bills and such: perfectly legitimate credit card fodder.

So why is he lying about needing so much cash?

This thing reeks of much, much more: I remember thinking he would be brought down by stupid, racist comments - that (it turns out) is just the tip of the cyst!

Tut-tut
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:34 PM
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5. Aw, the guy's a delusional junkie!
I'll bet he's "hopped up" on "goofballs" right now!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:34 PM
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6. Rightwingers NEVER
take responsibility for their failures. Unfortunately today their failures are fucking ALL of us over. What will it take to open the sheeps eyes?
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:34 PM
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7. i know who nemesis is
it sthat purple and pink platypus thats visiting nightly.
gotta love the DTs! :D
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:35 PM
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8. "I was withdrawing money, for crying out loud."
How bizarre that you were withdrawing money which you thought would slip under the $10,000 federal radar screen.

We can hardly wait to hear you cry out loud in court, you hypocritical gasbag.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:37 PM
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9. I'm sure that's what every money launderer says
"I was just withdrawing money"... Yes, and what did you do with it?? Why did you not want it traced??
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #8
24. Symptoms of Withdrawal include : diarrhea...
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:08 AM
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29. Who needs that kind of cash?
Is he setting himself up to be mugged?

Most people use credit cards or checks unless they don't want their transaction to be trac..... OH!

HE SPENT HOW MUCH ON DRUGS?
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:29 PM
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49. Mugged?
Don't be ridiculous.

I spent a year sleeping on the streets of Bed-Sty, I always kept at least $400G on me, and I never once was mugged. This is so much liberal hysteria...

But man, $400G on drugs? That's a serious habit.
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:41 PM
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10. The creep admits to spending up to $400,000 on drugs?!?

Ummm...THAT'S pretty damn serious.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:53 PM
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14. I'm NOT a CROOK, etc etc etc.
Only Gary was innocent.

OJ, Kobe, Hart, Agnew, Lance, Peterson, etc

and now, Rush, they all claimed the big I.

Sorry Rush. I have to think you are dmaged goods. About 1 in 3 still clings to your shit. I feel you lost 1/3 of your power. and, it may continue downward like in Roseanne and Rosie's case.

The people have seen your hand and its a loser, a deuce and a 5, off suit.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:55 PM
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15. Its probable that Rush was into needles...
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 10:56 PM by Dr Fate
no one does that volume of narcotics for what, 5 or 6 years, and still gets high on pills.

More than likely, Rush has "graduated" to needle use- just as the cocaine addict eventually degenerates to the use of "freebase" or "crack"...


Here are some hard, sad facts about Oxycontin & needles..

Individuals who abuse OxyContin by injecting the crushed tablets quickly become addicted. Injecting OxyContin requires a preparation regimen similar to that of heroin. This allows the abuser to receive the full effect of the pure Oxycodone almost immediately. This creates an effect similar to illicit opioid narcotics, such has heroin. Such a regimen requires the removal of the tablet coating by either sucking on it or scraping it with the teeth or a razor blade, followed by melting the remainder on a spoon, adding water, and then injecting the solution. Dissolving and injecting the contents of OxyContin can slow down or stop breathing and lead to death. Injecting OxyContin can also kill the tissue around the injection site and trigger heart and lung problems.


more:
http://www.oxycontinaddiction.info/injecting-oc.htm

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drool_n_yank Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:42 PM
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11. u dont spend that much money on drugs
unless you intend to distribute , and that is a serious crime .
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. There's another reason to spend that much on drugs
reselling them and laundering the money by depositing it in GOP coffers.


rocknation
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #18
28. bingo
I think the drugs are just a small part of the story.
Following the money is going to be very interesting, no matter what the reason for the withdrawals.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:10 AM
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30. Rush was buying enough narcotics at once to kill a platoon of Marines...
...although I am sure he was ingesting/injecting copious quantities of the hard narcotic, he could not have possibly doen ALL those black-market drugs- could he???
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:02 AM
Response to Reply #18
36. My pet theory...
is that Rush was the "best friend" of a lot of prominent conservatives, and that's where they got their drugs. I would be perfectly willing to see Rush walking the streets a free man if he gives up the names of those he's been supplying.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #18
45. I think you just
won the big prize. How very astute of you, rock.

Listen- we all know that the drug war in South America isn't really about drugs at all. Just so here as well. No nation spends this much money on so many failed policies if there aren't (expected) side benefits. Illicit sources of political funding in the amounts the sales of illicit drugs can produce would be veeeerrrry tempting to one in power with few or no scruples.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #11
21. I've said that all along
anyone else would be charged with intent to distribute. The rationale behind an intent to distribute charge is no one buys quantities that large solely for their own personal consumption.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:45 PM
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13. U.S. Trust, his bank, urged him to keep w/drawals under $10K ...
... to avoid federal paperwork associated with such transactions ...

perhaps U.S. Trust should be investigated, too

U.S. Trust Corporation and its affiliates are wholly owned subsidiaries of The Charles Schwab Corporation. Former Bechtel Prez and Nixon/Raygun man, George Schultz is on the Board of Directors.



U.S. Trust Company, National Association
as Trustee for Riviera Holdings ESOP
Riviera Holdings
2901 Las Vegas Blvd. South, Las Vegas, NV 89109-1933

Address of Principal Business Office or, if none, Residence
515 S. Flower St. #2800, Los Angeles, CA 90071


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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. they were investigated, and they paid a hefty fine.
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 11:05 PM by truthisfreedom
from rush's site:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111903/content/rush_responds.guest.html

The government and New York state was investigating U.S. Trust because the bank had apparently told many other of their clients that their cash withdrawals should be in amounts of less than $10,000. I was one of the last people they talked to, and they met I guess a couple people after me. I'm not really sure. But shortly after I met with them, U.S. Trust admitted to this and paid a $10 million fine, and that's it. I don't know how many other customers they had advised to do this, but there were enough that they incurred a $10 million fine, agreed to it, and that's what was going on here...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:12 PM
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19. I see- his BANK hooked him on dangerous black-market needle drugs!!!
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 11:25 PM by Dr Fate
Perhaps he needs to take "personal responsibility" for his raging addiction and accept the hard, sad facts....


http://www.oxycontinaddiction.info/injecting-oc.htm

Individuals who abuse OxyContin by injecting the crushed tablets quickly become addicted. Injecting OxyContin requires a preparation regimen similar to that of heroin. This allows the abuser to receive the full effect of the pure Oxycodone almost immediately. This creates an effect similar to illicit opioid narcotics, such has heroin. Such a regimen requires the removal of the tablet coating by either sucking on it or scraping it with the teeth or a razor blade, followed by melting the remainder on a spoon, adding water, and then injecting the solution. Dissolving and injecting the contents of OxyContin can slow down or stop breathing and lead to death. Injecting OxyContin can also kill the tissue around the injection site and trigger heart and lung problems.

Abuse of prescription pain medications is not new. Two primary factors, however, set OxyContin abuse apart from other prescription drug abuse. First, OxyContin is a powerful drug that contains a much larger amount of the active ingredient, oxycodone, than other prescription pain relievers. By crushing the tablet and either ingesting or snorting it, or by injecting diluted OxyContin, abusers feel the powerful effects of the opioid in a short time, rather than over a 12-hour span. Second, great profits are to be made in the illegal sale of OxyContin A 40-milligram pill costs approximately $4 by prescription, yet it may sell for $20 to $40 on the street, depending on the area of the country in which the drug is sold.

Injecting OxyContin creates a mindset in which the only goal of the individual is to obtain more of the drug. Interest in work, family and personal well being simply disappears. The individual often develops a drug-seeking behavior in which jobs, family, friends will all be sacrificed in an effort to obtain money to buy more OxyContin Thefts of money or items to sell from family members are all too common. Some result to prostitution or other criminal acts to fund their habit. OxyContin has a street sale value of one dollar per milligram.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #19
40. As fun as all this speculation is,
there is no one to prosecute Rush’s crimes unless they were committed in NY and New York law, not federal law, was violated.

A sad but true fact.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #40
50. The cash reporting requirement is federal N/T
Bake
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:14 PM
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20. gee, he wouldn't have any enemies, now would he?
noooooo .... he's loved by one and all
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:20 PM
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22. Yes well, addicts get paranoid
but you know what they say....just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're innocent
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:23 PM
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23. Rush must have known it was unethical if not illegal
He said his bank, U.S. Trust, urged him to keep cash withdrawals below $10,000 so the bank could avoid federal paperwork associated with such transactions.
Why would the bank incriminate itself that way? Is Rush and his lawyer just taking advantage of the fact that the bank was fined for doing this previously? I mean, any paperwork would no doubt have to have Rush's name on it, so it's as much in his best interests that the Feds don't know how much he's withdrawn as it is to the bank. I mean, why should the bank care? How lazy can you get?


rocknation


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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Classic smoke & mirrors from Rush- what does this have to do w/ DRUGS???
I dont care if the bank said this or the bank said that- you were HIGH ON HARD DRUGS- THOUSANDS of dollars worth of hard narcotic drugs, Rush- the Bank did not "make you" take out this cash and blow it on hard black-market narcotics!!!
GET REAL!!!
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Zo Zig Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #23
26. Cow Pie Thoughts
This is a "what if" type of cow pie...
Two different investigations, US Trust and the Florida Oxy sting.
Both having overlap, US Trust would have been Fed out of NY, the Oxy would have been Fed and DEA out of Miami. NY hands off to Miami the various elements of interest. At some point NY closes the case i.e the fine of US Trust. Who are the other account holders in the case, and who knew about it at US Trust. For me that is the real question of interest regarding US Trust.
The Miami case was sat on for what two year? The DA in WPB, Barry the Crusher was told to do so by whom? Wilma Kline the housekeeper, goes public why? Fear of Rush OD'ing,(?) or something else?
Could the Miami offices be covering something else, in the past year there have been a few busts for Oxy in WPB, but mostly low level types. Wilma's suppliers were locals and not movers and shaker so to speak.
Now here comes the cow, is US Trust laundrying for a much bigger fish with ties to Miami and Rush's name was never supposed to come out. The pie is a different story, if Rush is involved with both aspects does he know the Big Fish(s)?
Has anyone else thought that Rush will OD in the next six months to a year and case closed?

The sign post up ahead...
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tableturner Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:08 AM
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27. He broke the law by....
....helping the drug dealer launder the drug dealer's money. When Rush paid cash, and did it while purposely withdrawing sums just less than $10,000.00, he helped the drug dealer conceal the drug dealer's income (those actions also concealed other things, but that is not pertinent to this part of the equation). Thus, the IRS was deprived of the knowledge of the drug dealer's income and taxes due. Rush was complicit in laundering the drug dealer's money.

Rush would be allowed to "withdraw his own money" without breaking the law if he had spent it through normal traceable means. He did not do so. He is not being accused of tax evasion, i.e., he is not being accused of laundering his own money and thus hiding his own income.

So yes, Rush, you can withdraw your own duly reported funds to your heart's content. But you are not allowed while doing so to do it in a manner that helps the drug dealer hide his income. THAT is money laundering.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #27
51. You nailed it n/t
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:12 AM
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31. It's the eggplant I tell you! It won't shut up!
Argh...get these spiders off my arms!

I give Rush about 2 more weeks before he has a total mental breakdown.

SPIDERS! ARGH!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:45 AM
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34. I hope it happens on the air.
I hope they have to throw a net over him and drag him off in a straight jacket.

“This program has been interrupted due to technical difficulties” all the while Rush screaming in the background. BAWAHAHAHAHA!
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:12 PM
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48. He Never Saw Spiders In DT's
Liberals, liberals everywhere!!!!! Bwwwaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:50 AM
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32. My theory
Because of the list of people "laundering" money through this bank (remember, the bank was investigated and fined a couple of years ago)there is a distinct possibility that some investigator looking for fame and a promotion, placed surveillance on Rushblo to find out why he was pulling so much money out of the bank, and stumbled on the drug transactions (The jackpot), which leaves us where we are today.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:52 AM
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35. Awww. Poor widdle Rushie. Him need a dedication:
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 07:55 AM by dbt
*cueing up a Buffalo Springfield tune and preparing to lace it with Fat Beats*

Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your heart it will creep.
It starts when you're always afraid,
Step outta line, the man come
And take you away...


:evilgrin:
dbt
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:08 AM
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37. Noelle Bush/Rush Limbutt connection? Visit White House, Jeb Palace how
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 08:26 AM by dArKeR
many times. And how many times has he met with Delay, Hastert, Congress since the Coup of 2000? Let's see the records!

Where are the records showing how many times he visited the Saddam Bush Florida Gov. Palace.

I want to see an investigation if connection between Limbaugh and Noelle Bush.

And how many times Limbaugh was high on hard drugs in the White House and Congress since 2001!

And if any drug dealers profit from sales to Limbaugh contributed to the murder, child prostitution, pornography making, allowing drugs into the hands of children, created means for purchasing weapons for drug dealers which in turn committed murder, any passing of drug to elected officials, any drug use in the Florida Governors Office, any drug use with Jeb Bush...


"It can be a federal crime to structure financial transactions below the $10,000 limit to avoid the reporting requirement."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/19/entertainment/main584581.shtml

Just imagine is any family friend of Clinton or Gore did this!!!!

It's only a crime if you're a Democrat!
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #37
44. Rush could be in imminent danger.
If pigboy was not doing 97 pills a day,and he was sharing with some folks who would rather keep it quiet, then I surmise he may 'accidently' OD.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:37 AM
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38. Yes Boil Ass. Everyone's Out To Get You. You're The Only One Who's Right
isn't paranoia a sign of drug abuse? hmmm..
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:46 AM
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39. Typical Paranoid syndrom of drug addicts!!.......
Yah ....Rush.....You think the boogie man is out to get you?


LOL!!!!.......It is so funny how the right is scared to death of verbal critism!!!

Dish it out but can't take it back!!!


WEAK WEAK WEAK!!!!!!.......Their biggest achilles heel!!!!

We should be after them 24/7!!!!!!
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:16 AM
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41. "for crying out loud"
The use of that phrase is a pretty sure sign he's lying. It's a reality-denial thing. There is a noticeable lack of explanation in his excuse-making, because to go there would be to admit some sort of conscious violation of the law on his part.

"I wasn't murdering people, I was terminating their breathing functions, for crying out loud!"
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 10:31 AM
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43. Its the spiders Rush. Crawling all over your body. They are out to get you
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